S. court grants leave to proceed

  • 24 Sep 2009 01:00:17 GMT

    Saliya

    In Sri Lanka everything is about power. Be it the police army airforce navy, government offices, hospitals anything anywhere everywhere in Sri Lanka its all about power and throwing ones weight about regardless of the position they hold.

    Everyone tries to show that they are superior in some way over the other by throwing their weight about. That is exactly what this SSP was also doing.

  • 24 Sep 2009 01:04:53 GMT

    Kiwi,

    [Everyone tries to show that they are superior in some way over the other by throwing their weight about.]

    That is how our mentality formed. Our education system do nothing to change that.

  • 24 Sep 2009 01:38:39 GMT

    I think this guy should extend his petition to include the head of state, as he is the head of defense, and all these jokers come under his defense ministry umbrella..

  • 24 Sep 2009 03:16:09 GMT

    [That is how our mentality formed. Our education system do nothing to change that.]

    GAMMA,

    It is primarily our education system that made us capitalize our civil status to intimidate our fellow citizens who do not enjoy such status. British, with the help of the education system they established and their civil service, taught us how to look down at fellow countrymen who did not have a same level of education, perhaps because they did not bow down to the British authority as some others. I am not singling out the British Education as our fellows were also quick to learn how to look down at their countrymen.

    What we are seeing today are the remnants of the British legacy in the education system. As a result we now have doctors who are hellbent on blocking nurses getting degrees fearing that will undermine the status enjoyed by doctors. As a result, we now have lawyers, law makers as well as law enforcement personnel who think they are above the law.

    If you expect the very system that taught us how to look down at others to change that, then there is something wrong in that.

    -Mucha.

  • 24 Sep 2009 03:50:05 GMT

    Mucha

    Spot On!!

  • 24 Sep 2009 04:05:42 GMT

    For more than 2500 years, we had Buddhism. We also had Hinduism, may be longer than that. Then Islam, may be for a thousand years.

    The British were here only for about 150 years. So, their Education system seems to be more powerful than the teachings of the three great religions combined, in as much as the British system is being blamed for our ills!!

    What are the preachers, especially the tens of thousands of Buddhist monks doing?

    It is not that the religions have failed. It is just that the preachers have miserably failed if they can`t instil right conduct among their adherents

  • 24 Sep 2009 04:47:47 GMT

    [For more than 2500 years, we had Buddhism. We also had Hinduism, may be longer than that. Then Islam, may be for a thousand years.]

    p007,

    First a small correction: The claim that Hinduism was here before Buddhism is nothing more than an assumption. There is no archaeological evidence or historical accounts to the effect that the people who lived on this island before the arrival of Arahant Mahinda are Hindus. In contrary, there are historical accounts to the effect that the people lived on this island before the arrival of Buddhism were not Hindus.

    [The British were here only for about 150 years. So, their Education system seems to be more powerful than the teachings of the three great religions combined, in as much as the British system is being blamed for our ills!!]

    Although I have problems in the way you have framed this question, I fundamentally agree that the British system of Education (and the British in general) are lot powerful, brutal, smart and aggressive than the three religions combined.

    Most of those tens and thousands of Buddhist Bikkus (including the likes of Kudapola Hamuduruwo (Ven. Kudapola Rahula), Ven Variyapola Dheepankara Sumngala, Ven Ihagama Rathanapala, Ambagolle Haamuduruwo, Kahawaththe Hamuduruwo, Ketakumbure Hamuduruwo, Ven Girannegama Rathanajothi, Ven Chandrajothi Seelawansa Saranankara etc) indeed did whatever they can in their capacities as Buddhist Bikkus to keep the British at the bay. But most of them were imprisoned and were left to die while in certain instances they were shot dead. In the final analysis, they all failed to completely stamp out the British influence on the society even though they succeeded in protecting the Buddhism as a religion among the masses.

    -Mucha.

  • 24 Sep 2009 12:22:08 GMT

    Mucha.

    I am not going to enter into a debate as to whether Hinduism or Buddhism came to Sri Lanka first. Fact is, both have been here for over, lets say, two thousand years.

    It is over 60 years since the British left but what have the preachers or others interested in a just society done to change the society to one of noble followers of the respective faith since the British left?

    The trend now is to go for more and more of the Western system of so-called Education which is bereft of morals or scruples. Take any Sunday Newspaper. You will finds dozens of institutions offering courses of study all over the world, with particular focus on the West. Going by the proliferation of such institutions, there must be a great demand for such education.

    If the Western education is the cause of all our ills as claimed, why is that no body, I mean the people who matter like the clergy and social reformers, has spoken out strongly against the even more growing threat of the Western system?

    You know what? We are a nation of confused people who have little idea of what is good for us and what is not. Let us get our confusion cleared as a first step.

  • 25 Sep 2009 02:40:59 GMT

    [If the Western education is the cause of all our ills as claimed..]

    p007,

    First of all, let me (again) make a small correction: I have nowhere said that WESTERN EDUCATION is the cause of ALL our ills!! What I have said was the practice of one using his/her civil power to look down at fellow countrymen is something we learned as a result of the education system established by the British, among other reasons (If you expect to engage in a serious discussion on these matters, you first need to stop misinterpreting what I say, as we could otherwise easily end up correcting what we have said than discussing anything useful).

    The western education system (about which I have a different criticism) is essentially much broader than the education system established by Brits in SL.

    [It is over 60 years since the British left but what have the preachers or others interested in a just society done to change the society to one of noble followers of the respective faith since the British left?]

    You are again framing your question in a wrong way, thus making it extremely difficult to answer. The question you should have asked is `What the people who saw the faults in the system of education established by Brits have done to correct it over the last 60 years?`.

    To that question, I would say that they have taken few important steps, even though some of those have not delivered the expected results due to various reasons. One such important step is recognizing the language understood by the majority as the Official Language of the country, REPLACING A ONE UNDERSTOOD BY A HANDFUL OF ELITES. Had that policy been implemented properly, we would not be seeing many people who are capable of getting many doors opened nowadays just because they know English.

    One other such important step is the Free Education System established by CWW Kannangara under the auspices of Maha Sangha (i.e. the Buddhist Bikkus). Now, I am neither saying this was the best measure which could have been taken nor this measure has completely stamped out the bad habits we were taught by the British. However, that was a step taken in the correct direction and has hence contributed to alleviate a situation which would otherwise have been lot worse.

    Cheers

    Mucha.

  • 25 Sep 2009 05:29:32 GMT

    Mucha.

    Agreed that you didn`t say that the Western Education system is the cause of all our ills.

    How can you expect others to ask questions in a manner convenient to you? Every one has the right to ask questions the way he sees it. If you can`t answer the questions as framed, you have the option of not answering it. To ask the questioner to re-frame the question to suit you, is, to say the least, absolutely ridiculous.

    I happened to go to the District Court of Colombo yesterday, the Court Registry Office, to be exact. I was surprised to find that all notices posted/pasted on the doors of the Office were ONLY in the Sinhala Language. More than 50 years after the Sinhala Only and 3 decades of war that followed, and legislations for use of Tamil in between, we still have in the Capital, a cosmopolitan city, in the Mecca of Legal Redress and Relief, Notices meant for the Public ONLY in Sinhala.

    If this is what you mean by improper implementation of the Sinhala Only Policy, I agree with you.

    As for the steps you have outlined, can`t you see that they have little to do with creating a just and moral society where there will be humaneness, human dignity and mutual respect?