Aussie PM Kevin Rudd`s message to Muslim extremists in Australia

  • 8 Mar 2009 02:06:18 GMT

    [What if MR had made a similar statement about Sri Lanka?]

    Imps I am surprised that you consider Tamils as Immigrants, similar to yourself in Aussie:))

    Tamils have been there since the time of Vijayan at least! So stop acting like the land belongs to you only!

    :))

  • 8 Mar 2009 02:31:05 GMT

    [Imps I am surprised that you consider Tamils as Immigrants]

    Where did I say Tamils were immigrants? :)

    The question here in Australia is that Christians of European origin form the majority community, while in Sri Lanka the majority are the Sinhala Buddhists who are much loved by the pro-LTTE diASSpora simply because we`re Sinhala Buddhists (it`s totally not racist of the diASSpora, right)? :)

    The problem in Australia is that some Muslims want to live under the crazy Sharia law and think they`re so much better than anyone else, while in Sri Lanka some Tamils (but mostly Tamils overseas) want to live in a mythical land of milk and honey called Eelam.

    [Tamils have been there since the time of Vijayan at least!]

    Tamils may well have been there since the time of the dinosaurs, but the fact is that Sri Lanka is a country whose core values are inspired by Buddhism and the Sinhalese are the majority community by far. It`s these very same Buddhist values that welcomed Tamils instead of killing them en masse (except when they came from India and started killing us and burning our temples, of course).

    The public noticeboards in Jaffna (under govt control since 1995 as you know) are all in English and Tamil, no Sinhala in sight. Even the buses have their routes marked only in English and Tamil. But do you find any Sinhala person calling it genocide and asking for int`l intervention?

    So I would like paraphrase Kevin Rudd`s words with regards to Sri Lanka`s position with separatist Tamils:

    [Most Sri Lankans believe in Buddhism. This is not some Buddhist, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Buddhist men and women, on Buddhist principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. If Lord Buddha and the Mahavamsa offend you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because Buddhism is part of our culture.

    If you aren`t happy here then LEAVE. We are`t forcing you to stay here. You asked for Eelam, but we will never give you that.]

    NB- Vijaya wasn`t exactly a Buddhist but the Mahavamsa does say that Lord Buddha requested the god Vishnu to look after him and his descendants. I don`t agree with putting pictures of Lord Buddha on walls of offices and schools. Let`s keep it secular.

    [Immigrants, similar to yourself in Aussie:))]

    I`m not an immigrant! I, like all other overseas students, am a semi-legal alien here on a student visa whose sole purpose is to keep Australia`s universities afloat with our money while the Aussie govt withdraws their funding and uses it for who knows what :)

  • 8 Mar 2009 02:47:50 GMT

    [Sri Lanka is a country whose core values are inspired by Buddhism ]

    LOL! You call the Veerayas who bomb hospitals and rape women, Buddhists? Paavam Buddha!

    [Mahavamsa does say that Lord Buddha requested the god Vishnu to look after him and his descendants. ]

    LOL! I give a toss about what your bed time story says:))

    [ I don`t agree with putting pictures of Lord Buddha on walls of offices and schools. Let`s keep it secular.

    ]

    That`s the problem. Change the constitution to a secular one like India, where the Hindus form nearly 85% and yet there is no special place for Hinduism.

    [I`m not an immigrant! ]

    You are now diverting into fine print. What I meant was the land belongs to the Tamils as much as it does to the Sinhalese! No one should be allowed to enforce their culture.

    :))

  • 8 Mar 2009 02:59:23 GMT

    [You call the Veerayas who bomb hospitals and rape women, Buddhists?]

    Unlike jihadis, our soldiers aren`t fighting for Buddhism. They`re fighting against terrorism. Of course you`ll have the odd bad egg here and there. But would you mind telling me if the LTTE treats non-Tamil civilians any better? They even kill Tamils who disagree with them!

    [LOL! I give a toss about what your bed time story says:))]

    Like I said before:

    [[If Lord Buddha and the Mahavamsa offend you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because Buddhism is part of our culture.

    If you aren`t happy here then LEAVE.]]

    Or in your case, you`re free to stay out :)

    [Change the constitution to a secular one like India, where the Hindus form nearly 85% and yet there is no special place for Hinduism.]

    That may be true, but many European countries have Christianity as the state religion. Would you mind telling them the same thing you told me?

    [What I meant was the land belongs to the Tamils as much as it does to the Sinhalese! No one should be allowed to enforce their culture.]

    Of course, but even in Australia`s case, you could say that every non-Aboriginal person there is descended from immigrants from all over the world. But the predominant culture is the white Christian man`s. People from other backgrounds (like me!) aren`t complaining much, except for the Islamic fundamentalists.

    It`s actually the Jaffna Vellalah Tamils who started asking for a separate state back in 1921. They think they`re so much better than everyone else just because they`re Vellalah LOL! You`re not one of them, are you?

  • 8 Mar 2009 03:15:46 GMT

    [If Lord Buddha and the Mahavamsa offend you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because Buddhism is part of our culture.

    ]

    Australians` day to day life is not governed by a fictional storybook! And they don`t insist that you call a Christian priest for every thing, from farting to opening a building, do they? They don`t insist that you build a statue for christ where ever there`s a fig tree, then bring a priest, then bring soldiers to guard the priest, then soldiers` families and so on, entirely at the taxpayer`s expense do they?

    [It`s actually the Jaffna Vellalah Tamils who started asking for a separate state back in 1921. They think they`re so much better than everyone else just because they`re Vellalah LOL!

    ]

    Like SWRD who demanded a separate state for Kandyans in 1924! These cannot be used to cover up for the disenfranchisement of millions in 1948, Sinhala only, Riots x 3, mediawise standardisation, 100% Sinhala army and police, colonisation and many more! Let me ask you, if there are riots in Australia, will the police stand by idly or even participate in the looting? Don`t even compare the Australian democracy with a majoritarian tyranny in the theocratic state of Sri Lanka:))

    [You`re not one of them, are you?

    ]

    Don`t know and don`t care. To me no one is superior or inferior!

  • 8 Mar 2009 03:59:28 GMT

    Oh my God! IF Imperator compares the Tamils of Sri Lanka to the recent Muslim immigrants of Australia, he must be the Mahamodaya, the Sinhala race has been waiting for more than 2000 years.

    The Mahavamsa is a religious book with stories of gods and demons and mythical characters, no one with a right mind will bring that stories to justify his racism. Even if we take Mahavamsa as the true history of Sri Lanka to please Imperators`s childish mind, the same Mahavamsa says the Tamils were in Sri Lanka from the dawn of history, not just as citizens of this country but also as rulers of this Country. Imperator must be out of his mind to think the Tamils who live in this country from time immemorial (at least more than 2000 years) as immigrants.

    Sri Lanka was not founded by Buddhism or by Buddhist principle, or the Buddhist monks didn`t land on an empty island. People have been living in this Island long before the birth of the Buddhism and they had their own gods and worship. We had rulers and people who had nothing to do with Buddhism and never heard of Buddhism. In that case Hinduism is much more ancient religion of Sri Lanka than the Buddhism. The Sinhalese are not the founding people of Sri Lanka, according to your own Mahavamsa, they are immigrants. :))

    Some Sinhalese like to argue the Sinhalese are Siva Hela people or some stories like that to hide their immigrant ancestry of a Kallathoni called Vijaya. Imperator believes in Mahavamsa mythology, in that case he must accept the Vijaya story of the same Mahavamsa and must accept his immigrant ancestry.

    The Tamils are not begging the Sinhalese to give them Tamil Eelam but they are fighting to free their home land they lost to the Portuguese and annexed by the British to the two Sinhala kingdoms.

    I doubt, Kevin Rudd would have given that speech, if the Muslim immigrants had a long history in Australia like the Tamils in Sri Lanka. His anti Tamil racism didn`t allow him to think and he got carried away with the rhetoric and posted here. The sad part is none of the Sinhalayass said anything to him or try to correct his stupidity.

    Do you think the English prime minister of Canada would ever say anything like this to the French Canadians? He wouldn t even dream of saying this because the French Canadian minority has the equal claims and rights in Canada as the majority English. In Canada the English are majority, so do you think the English majority can enforce the pre dominant English culture over the French minority.

    So, you think the French Canadian minority has no right to protect their language and culture in Canada, they should assimilate into predominant English culture and learn English and give up the French language. Do you think they should give up their unique Catholic heritage and assimilate with the majority Protestant religion etc.?

    If you ever come to Canada and say all this here, the English majority government will deport you back to the Sinhala racist hell called Sri Lanka for hate crimes, inciting hatred and as the suspected member Neo Nazi or Ku Klux Clan.

    Bye...... I am typing in a hurry, I am really busy but I just couldn`t let this one go. :))))

  • 8 Mar 2009 04:57:38 GMT

    Aani,

    [Australians` day to day life is not governed by a fictional storybook!]

    Neither is ours! But the Aussies do take the Bible very seriously. Some people call that a fictional storybook (no offence to any Christians) :)))

    [And they don`t insist that you call a Christian priest for every thing, from farting to opening a building, do they?]

    I don`t think Buddhist monks are called in for things like that all the time. Sometimes a minister or even minor offical is enough. But FYI, they kicked up a huge fuss when plans for a Muslim school were announced in one suburb. They also didn`t like the idea of a uddhist temple opening up in another suburb, though they were very happy to have a church there instead. :)

    [the disenfranchisement of millions in 1948]

    What about before 1948, when Tamils held most if not all top jobs? I`m not condoning what the Sinhalese did post-independence but please consider the events which led up to it too.

    [Don`t even compare the Australian democracy with a majoritarian tyranny in the theocratic state of Sri Lanka:))]

    You`re right. Australian democracy is actually ruled by big businesses while in Sri Lanka our leaders tell the businessmen what to do :)

    [To me no one is superior or inferior!]

    Good! Me too (except I think those pro-LTTE scum should be dealt with firmly) :)

  • 8 Mar 2009 05:11:19 GMT

    Professor Thivya!

    As expected, another thesis of a reply from you! :-D

    [Even if we take Mahavamsa as the true history of Sri Lanka to please Imperators`s childish mind]

    Dear Prof, I`ve been saying all along that the Mahavamsa is a MYTH but is inextricably linked to Sri Lanka`s history.

    [Sri Lanka was not founded by Buddhism or by Buddhist principle]

    Yes, but it is now a majority Buddhist country. Move ahead with the times, whether you like it or not :)

    [People have been living in this Island long before the birth of the Buddhism and they had their own gods and worship.]

    People have been living in Australia long before the birth of Christ too! But their constitution is distinctly Christian. You can`t even go to court without taking an oath on the bible. Not just here but in the USA too.

    [The Tamils are not begging the Sinhalese to give them Tamil Eelam]

    Correct. You`re begging the int`l community to give you Tamil Eelam LOL!

    [The sad part is none of the Sinhalayass said anything to him or try to correct his stupidity.]

    Odcube uploaded his same thing to his page a few days ago and there was a conversation there lol. This was on Facebook and people are still debating it.

    [If you ever come to Canada and say all this here, the English majority government will deport you back to the Sinhala racist hell called Sri Lanka for hate crimes, inciting hatred and as the suspected member Neo Nazi or Ku Klux Clan.]

    Seeign how the donkeys burned our flag and got away with it, I suppose I could get away with baggin terrorism in Canada. BTW I have no problem with you donkeys burning our flag. Most of the money you spend on buying those flags goes directly to Sri Lanka LOL. Keep burning more Lion flags, DONKEYS!

    [Bye...... I am typing in a hurry, I am really busy but I just couldn`t let this one go. :))))]

    Come back anytime :)

  • 8 Mar 2009 05:14:31 GMT

    The now so called Austarlians are immigrant from England who came few hundred years ago.

    What the real Australian aboriginees say following to the white men who came from England and occupied their land?

    `This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, `THE RIGHT TO LEAVE``

  • 8 Mar 2009 05:20:51 GMT

    [You can`t even go to court without taking an oath on the bible. Not just here but in the USA too.

    ]

    That`s wrong. You can take oath on any book you prefer - Kuran, Gita, any thing that you believe in.

    I know that the Tamils enjoyed a privileged position under the British. But instead of slowly correcting the imbalances you swung the pendulum completely to the other side. And the riots, with the 100% Sinhala forces watching or participating - that convinced the Tamil youth that they have to look after their own security.

    None of the Sinhala leaders had the statesmanship or leadership qualities of a Nehru.

    :))