Murukan: How did a Vel worship evolve into an anthropomorphic worship?

  • 26 Jul 2007 05:46:58 GMT

    Pera,

    I never have been in Kataragama. Do you believe the allegation that Buddhists are being accused of taking over traditional Hindu site?

    Read following article that titled Sri Lanka`s Most Holy Hindu Site becoming a Purely Buddhist Place of Worship?:

    [http://kataragama.org/news/1986dec-hinduism_today.htm]

  • 26 Jul 2007 05:54:06 GMT

    Duplicate

  • 26 Jul 2007 05:55:38 GMT

    Sir,

    Going deeply in to this topic would unravel many interesting facts.

    In Arabic Alexander the Great is Sikandar or Iskandar. As you point out he is linked to Skanda or Skandakumar in the Eastern legends.

    The Quranic reference to Dhul Qarnain is a unique story. Though he indeed lived in the past, his story has been related as a lesson to humanity rather than a narration of history. Many subsequent scholars speculated who this Dhul Qarnain was, many among them speculating that it is Alexander Great.

    Wikipedia:

    Dhul-Qarnayn literally meaning He of the Two Horns, is a figure mentioned in the Qur`an, the sacred scripture of Islam, where he is described as a great and righteous ruler who built a long wall that keeps Gog and Magog from attacking the people of the West. Historically, Dhul-Qarnayn has been identified as Alexander the Great, and this remains the opinion of most secular historians, while contemporary Islamic scholars are divided on the issue, some identifying him with Cyrus the Great. The epithet was also familiar among the pre-Islamic Arabs, who applied it to at least three different kings.

    For a comprehensive article see

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhul-Qarnayn

  • 26 Jul 2007 06:00:20 GMT

    Bonggo,

    [Going deeply in to this topic would unravel many interesting facts.]

    That is true. Further, it also will show us that we all must be very stupid enough to fight in the name of religion, since modern religions have absorbed many earlier beliefs.

  • 26 Jul 2007 06:10:56 GMT

    Sir,

    [I never have been in Kataragama. Do you believe the allegation that Buddhists are being accused of taking over traditional Hindu site?]

    On the contrary the traditions are kept alive and much practised. Kataragama is a unique place where devotees all four religions congregate. There is a Muslim place of worship too where the local Muslims believe the legendery Khidr visited and stayed. According to them Khidr Kamam became Kataragama.

  • 26 Jul 2007 06:21:34 GMT

    Sritharan,

    [I never have been in Kataragama. Do you believe the allegation that Buddhists are being accused of taking over traditional Hindu site?

    ]

    I remember my mom telling the following story to my lil daughter on the way to kataragama last year:

    Skandha was meditating under a big tree near the `Menik ganga` (the river wchich flows along Kataragama). He was contemplating where to make his great house (Kovil) and to whome the curatorship should go.

    To test his idea, he got an appearence of old sanyasi and was sitting under the tree.

    Then came some Tamil guys who were going to work in the Hambantota saltrine. Skandha asked them to help him to cross the river. The Tamil ganag refused and went away.

    After some time, some Sinhala fellows came for the same business. Skanda asked them for help to cross the river. Those guys took skanda to the other side, fed him with the stuff the had for their lunch and moved away. Then Skanda desided to hand over the custody of his house to Sinhala people.

    This is the belief of Sinhala people.

    Cheers

    PERA

  • 26 Jul 2007 06:43:05 GMT

    Pera,

    [Then Skanda decided to hand over the custody of his house to Sinhala people.]

    It is an another twisted story that had been created by the Sinhala Chauvinist elements to discredit another ethnic group. The Tamil-Sinhala ethnic violence is very new to this country. In old days, there is no such differences. History tells us that Tamil soldiers/commanders were part of Sinhala Kings army and in the similar way, Sinhala speaking soldiers were in Tamil Kings forces. Tamil and Sinhala king households fought each other for power.

    As I explained in my post, deity Murukan/Skandan had evolved through different beliefs. Human had created current form of Gods and beliefs from earlier simple form of warship. That same human also had created this ill-fated stories about a certain ethnic group to exert an influence on a piece of land.

  • 26 Jul 2007 06:48:44 GMT

    Sritharan,

    OK, you think that is a twisted story, it is OK. What I told was waht I know.

    [The Tamil-Sinhala ethnic violence is very new to this country. In old days, there is no such differences. ]

    Really?? Who is lord Kataragama at the first place? He is the god of war!

    Tamils and Sinhalas fought number of times starting from Sena and Guththuika period... that is BC I suppose.

    Those days war is part of life. People fought with each other...See all the wepons that Skandha having with him...almost like an one man army!

    On the otherhand, if Sinhala people are `Racists` and chauvanists as you people accuse, Sinhale people would have destroyed whole Kataragama devale leaving behind only the Kiriwehera. We did not do that.

    Cheers

    PERA

  • 26 Jul 2007 07:04:29 GMT

    Pera:

    Take Tamil dynasties, such as Cholas, Cheras, Pandyas and Pallava, who fought each other for power, wealth, and land. Tamil people had been divided themselves for rally behind their Tamil dynasty.

    It was same for Sri Lanka, when two Sinhala kings fought each other they got help from either Cholas or Pandyas. Tamil soldiers had been brought from North of island or South India to fight for Sinhala monarchies.

    War alway was the part of the yester-period communities. If it was a Tamil-Sinhala problem in the early days, these Sinhala kings never trusted Tamil Soldiers. It was simply a power struggle between Royal house holds. Later days, Buddhist monks twisted the story to spread hatred in the name of Buddha.

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  • 26 Jul 2007 07:11:44 GMT

    [War alway was the part of the yester-period communities. If it was a Tamil-Sinhala problem in the early days, these Sinhala kings never trusted Tamil Soldiers. It was simply a power struggle between king house holds.]

    Isn`t it the same even now?

    VP accepting 1 billion from Mahinda and all?? Just a powerstruggle between different leaders...:)

    [ Later days, Buddhist monks twisted the story to spread hatred in the name of Buddha.]

    Things would have been easier because Kataragama is in the heart of Sinhala dominated Ruhunu rata!

    Cheers

    PERA