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About 300 SL fishermen apprehended by Indian Coast Guard in 2010
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deborak
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 22 Feb 2011 12:50:09 GMT Report for Abuse
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22 Feb 2011 12:46:15 GMT Report for Abuse
Sri lankan Navy is impotent dog navy, even Srilankan fishermen behve more humane :)
O.K! Brave face madayan! Go in front of a MIRROR!
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22 Feb 2011 12:50:35 GMT Report for Abuse
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no no you see the bullets were 'standard issue SLN bullets'!! you see SLN makes their own bullets which has special identification codes(and SLN logo and the serial number of the sailor it was issued to)!!
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Thinking,
It not through the logo and serial number on a bullet that you identify services or the guns that use it. It is relatively straight forward part of forensic science.
Ofcourse, one can claim that gun and rounds were stolen and used, even then, it is easy to locate as people keep a register of missing items!
why should it be a different treatment when Indian fishermen were arrested on SL side??
There is no problem if Indian fishermen are arrested and prosecuted by lawful authirites through lawful means.
The problem is when they are arbitrarily killed or punished or illegally detained by goons taking law into their hands.
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22 Feb 2011 12:51:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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As Indians cross over the international boundary, Sri Lankans also do, though in a relatively smaller number which can be explained based on the difference in the size and the advancement of fishing industry between the sides.
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 22 Feb 2011 12:55:18 GMT Report for Abuse
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Maninder
On the arbitrarily killing, evidence which any court will accept to file charges prima facie is shared with concerned people. This is a case that is more damning to SL than to India. So, I hope that they will see through it.
If SLN has done what you say...it should be brought into public domain irrespective of the damage. we are not going to defend SLN folks if they have killed those people instead of arresting them on the spot.
You shouldn't accuse an entire naval force of a country for such a thing without showing some solid evidence. as far as i know, there's only hearsay and circumstantial evidence
By the FIR filed, the 136 Indian fishermen were 'arrested' by Sri Lankan fishermen, not by SL navy or Coast Guard. That itself is an illegal act, as any lawyer will explain to you. So the solid evidence for kidnapping and illegal detention is in the FIR itself!
that may or may not be true.
i aint a law expert but from what i know..in the absence of officials a citizen of a sovereign nation has the right to make a 'citizen's arrest'
Especially when people from another country had illegally entered our sea area and keep on stealing our resources.
Look at what the indian fishermen are saying...
no fish stocks in their sea areas so they see it as fair game to enter another country!
That in itself shows that these are marauding fishermen intentionally entering our waters |
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22 Feb 2011 12:55:57 GMT Report for Abuse
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Maninder,
By the FIR filed, the 136 Indian fishermen were 'arrested' by Sri Lankan fishermen, not by SL navy or Coast Guard. That itself is an illegal act, as any lawyer will explain to you. So the solid evidence for kidnapping and illegal detention is in the FIR itself!
are you sure? I mean in SL (or in Australia) if you see a crime you can do a citizen arrest and no one will find fault with you for preventing a crime! You doint have to be a Policeman or any other official. Maybe the sytem is different in India!
Maybe those Fishermen should go ahead with a courtcase for kidnapping and illegal detention, since there is evidence they can win the case and get a compo from SL govt and get out of the risky fishing job and have a good life! :) |
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22 Feb 2011 12:58:45 GMT Report for Abuse
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we are not going to defend SLN folks if they have killed those people instead of arresting them on the spot.
Exactly! and if they can prove that our navy did it, then we shd even go to the extend of compensating those families too!
But we are waiting for the evidence, but Maninder, as always he does, only ALLEGATIONS! |
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22 Feb 2011 12:59:48 GMT Report for Abuse
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So didn't that lawyer explained to U, crossing the maritime border and poaching in Lankan waters is ILLEGAL???? How FUNNY!
Deborak,
Stop embarassing youself!
Crossing boundary is a civilian offence. Nobody other than police (or navy or coast guard) can make an arrest. And if there is no lawful arrest by a lawful authority, there is no offence.
May be as a sri lankan with the recent past and present, you have ceased to understand the difference between a lawful arrest and illegal kidnapping and detention.
Why do you think the fishermen was released immediately they arrived on the shore?
Thinking,
well according to Maninder's reply it seems theer is evidence BUT those evidence are secrets and they are protecting them from publisizing 'cos they are 'more damning to SL than to India.'. So it's all to protect Sri Lanka you see.. :)
Protecting Sri Lanka! Do you need any protection at all? :)))))
Publishing the evidence and pressing for offical investigation and prosecution means indicting SL armed forces in crimes that is very similar to the ones investigated by a united nations panel.
Talking about protecting! Damn! |
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22 Feb 2011 13:00:05 GMT Report for Abuse
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All-out efforts have been made to curb the menace of illegal poaching by foreign fishing vessels
This is more than menace. It is a threat for India's internal security. What if some jihadis just come and drop by.. our navy should be more sensitive and arrest anyone who try to cross the maritime border.
It is not the same for srilanka, the Indian fishermen cross the border only to fish which is acceptable. |
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22 Feb 2011 13:00:41 GMT Report for Abuse
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Maninder,
It not through the logo and serial number on a bullet that you identify services or the guns that use it. It is relatively straight forward part of forensic science.
aaah right, so since this is a unique gun (not to mention the unique bullet design) used only by SLN it must have been a pretty easy case then! :)
Ofcourse, one can claim that gun and rounds were stolen and used, even then, it is easy to locate as people keep a register of missing items!
well who needs the gun when it was already identified as a SLN bullet? :) |
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