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High demand for Lankan skilled workers in Canada
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DONP
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19 Jun 2010 21:50:27 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gamma is absolutely correct.
Most of the people who do not suceed are those who give in, and find excuses as to why you cannot get what you want, they keep on blaming the system. I have heard with my own ears ' We have gone through one of the best degree programs in Peradeniya or wherever, still these fellows want us to do exams, how can we do these this or why the hell should we?' WHO CARES? Ego and negative approach won't make you suceed. If you are an engineer or a doctor, or an accountant, why the hell cannot you prove that you are one. I WILL, at any time and any age take a chalange or an examination to prove what I am.
I have news for those guys who say they cannot get a job in their profession here. Right now, I can cite not less than 50 names, just off the cuff, of immigrants in Greater Toronto Area, who proudly work in their respective professions. Engineers, Doctors, Accountants and Bankers. Those are people I know personally. But every one of them, I know this for a fact, started their second life from scratch, worked hard, took exams, courses , professional interview etc. and upgraded themselves, got licensed here and proved their worth.
Statistics say it takes eleven years on the average for a migrant to work himself/herself to the level he/she was in back home. This is no place for lazy bums who keep on blaming the system - Go was dishes, or work in McDonalds for minimum salary for the rest of you life, or find out one of those crooks who teach you how to steal from social welfare systems if that is your wish.
If you don't like the system, Don't blame it - get the hell out of it!. If you came for the sake of the children and not for your sake, keep our blooming mouth shut. If you do not want to take a challange, that is your fault, not the system's. the system is such that always the new immigrant pays the price.
I wish to say this to all Sri Lankans who read this and hope to migrate to Canada- Do not get caught to the immigration consultants. They are crooks. Also, do not be disheartened by what those pessimists say. Canada is good place to live, but it is not an easy place. Nobody will take you qualifications for granted, sometimes even if your qualifications are Canadian. You have to prove yourself, and you have to find a way to do it, when you are here. And, that is a huge challange but many strong men and women have successfully conqeured the obstacles.
Finally, isn't it enough to say that Canada's last Governer General Mrs. Adrian Clarkson came to Canada as a refugee child in a boat? and also that the present Governer General of Canada Madam Micahelle Jean too was a refugee from Haiti? That is to be the world's largest country's Citizen Number One. |
AnuD Senior Member
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20 Jun 2010 02:28:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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Talk about the success rate.
One some how made it does not mean others were not qualified.
But, it is not the same from every country. |
kiwikanga Senior Member
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20 Jun 2010 02:49:57 GMT Report for Abuse
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All thes sentiments expressed about migration to Canada are aplicable to Australia and even NZ where in both the countries I have first hand experience.
As DONP says just by SL qualifictions it is not a walk in the park to the professions in these countries. Be it doctors lawyers engineers or who ever eventhough they may be qualified in SL they are nothing and nobodies upon arrival in these countries.
It takes hardwork, determination and perseverence to fall into the correct tracks. Here in NZ there I know of one SL doctor who works at supermarket check out till and another who works as a care giver at a rest home for the aged as they are unable to complete the required exams here, there are lawyers who sit at petrol station tills and rive taxis unable to pass te law exams here. It's the same with any profession.
The only difference is for accountants who are able to get jobs as accountants and there is no profssional restriction in working as accountants and no mandatory Aussi or NZ qualification needed to work as accountants.
However CIMA is unheard of by these people and is of hardly any value when seeking employment. It's the experience and positions held that ultimately counts.
SL qualified doctors and lawyers have absolutely no chance to work in those professions in Aussi or NZ unless they get through the exams here and in the case of doctors unless they are doing locums and have the MD if they have not got through the prescribed local exams.
Edited By - kiwikanga - 20 Jun 2010 02:56:21 GMT |
Gamma Senior Member
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20 Jun 2010 03:19:29 GMT Report for Abuse
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sometimes even if your qualifications are Canadian. You have to prove yourself, and you have to find a way to do it, when you are here.
Very true DONP. If we apply for a job, We have to prove ourselves fit in to that particular job which has unique challenges. For that you have to believe your strengths and prove those.
Canadian system is also not perfect as every-other system. It is true immigrants have many barriers or challenges. Cultural, language and so on. If you prove you are good at what you are looking for there may/might have some government programs to help you. Before that many immigrants have to find odd jobs or lower rank temporary jobs in your profession for the survival. Many immigrants come to Canada as a family. You also have family commitments. No other person can recommend you what to do because his or her situation is different from your situation. And also each and every person has different attitudes. Think differently and see things differently. Success in life is also different from one person to the other. To succeed, You have to face to the situation and adjust your strategies based on the situation. That is life.
Edited By - Gamma - 20 Jun 2010 03:21:10 GMT |
ThinKing Senior Member
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20 Jun 2010 03:54:25 GMT Report for Abuse
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DONP, Gamma, Kiwi,
I agree with almost all of what was said here.
As a person who had been to both Canada and Australia, I think it's much easier for a Sri Lankan to find a job in Australia than in Canada in most of the professions. Australian job market trust foreign qualifications more than Canadian employers.
The reason could be due to the fact that when you migrate to Australia in a Skilled category you MUST get your qualifications accessed with the professional body in Australia where as to Canada I do not think is the case (dont know about now, but it wasnt the case).
So when someone arrive as a skilled migrant in Au, people know ok this guy was assessed and passed as he has qualifications matching to qualifications from Australian universities.
However this doesnt mean to say when you arrive a job waiting for you here, it all depends on you, how you handle interviews and your fluency in English and your personality, but much less to do with how much 'Australian Experience' you have. I havent heard anyone being asked about 'Australian Experience' when they go for an inteview, but I know for a fact that they do ask for 'Canadian Experience' in Canada.
from my experience usually people get a job in their profession within 3-6 months max. Some professions hard to get in to without going through the system. Ex. Doctors. I know a friend who was a Dental Doc from SL who was studying for Last 4 to become a dental doc here, but thats the choice you make. Another Doc who didnt want to go through all that did a post grad in Medical Administration for 1Yr and entered in to the system.
As DONP as already said, DO NOT go through these consultants unless you have something to hide or trying to cheat the immigration system (bogus exp..etc). It's just a waste of money. They dont and cant do anything what you cant do by yourself in the immigration process!! Edited By - ThinKing - 20 Jun 2010 03:58:59 GMT |
Gamma Senior Member
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20 Jun 2010 04:07:05 GMT Report for Abuse
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ThinKing,
Yes to immigrate to Canada, it is not mandatory to asses your credentials with the governing body of your profession. If you full-fill those,still you need Canadian experience to find a job. For that you have to start from scratch. |
ThinKing Senior Member
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20 Jun 2010 04:33:09 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gamma,
ye I think thats one bad thing in Canadian Immigration process. It's much simpler, less documentation..etc than Australian immigration, but that also means lot of bad apples could roll in so in the end employers dont trust the system and they want 'proven' experiences which they can verify if they want to. so they ask for Canadian Experience. |
Gamma Senior Member
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20 Jun 2010 04:52:36 GMT Report for Abuse
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Thinking,
Yes it is true that employers hesitate to hire a stranger although that person got the clearance from the governing body, because rather than paper qualifications, ethics, beliefs and many other social skills plays a major role to work as a team. To build up those, they have to prove that they are a suitable fit for that society. That may be one most important reason I believe immigrants have to start from the scratch. |
upalima2002
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20 Jun 2010 15:28:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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As DONP mentioned life here is very challengeable, hard working. It is true a man has to work hard and take challenges to achieve his objectives. As i said earlier if you like to start from your life from scratch you can do so. But hard start. Don,t take the life simple like Sri lanka.
My argument is whether doctor or an engineer or an administrator lift goods even in his own office in sri lanka(I know ther are very few but majority is not like that) if you come with that mentality you are in trouble.
Here all immigrants work hard to get their job secured. Here the rule is hire and fire. You are subjected to fired at any moment. No human right council to solve such problems.
If you can work hard here why you can't in Sri lanka? If doctor or an engineer like to serve in a petrol station or a retaurant , no problem. It is his or her wish and personal matter. But Government of Sri lanka invests a huge amount of money to make adoctor or an engineer. if he serves in a restaurant here or somewhere what is the return of that investmnet. Niether Sri lanka nor Canada get the valuable service of that doctor or engineer. In order to build a man for a restaurant is not costly as doctor or eng.
However my explanations are not to discourage people to come to canada. But they have to think and get a correct decision.Decision may vary person to person. But the facts considered for the decision should be correct ? The facts given by the immi- consultant are not 100% true.
The decision also vary according to your age, Status in Sri lanka, economy, children's education.. etc. Take a wise decision before apply to canada immigration. filling forms and preperation documents not much hard as consultants say. If you can read and understand English go to the web www.cic.gc.ca It explains evrything A-Z |
CryingLankans
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20 Jun 2010 18:07:18 GMT Report for Abuse
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| I believe, what some of the educated writers said is correct,to face the challenges in a foreign country you are going to settledown mainly based on your previous life style and the age.For an example if some one who used to live comfortable life and lacey life style, and high status, life style in Srilanka, I do not think fit to this country.Number one is this developed countries are working communities, called 'Class Less', in this countries there is no difference between a construction labourer and the doctor, or the engineer, or the teacher.They all are doing a job to live.Some times a doctor is not having a chance to earn as much as a construction man make.Every thing depend on the money you make not the status you bear like Srilanka.It doesn't matter you belong to Senanayaka family or Bandaranayaka family, or Rajapakasa family or Ghandi family or what ever.This is applicable to not only Canada but also United States of America too.So if any body cannot work to make money in his own strength leagly,I do not think it is wise to come to this countries, because those countries no bribes, no favourations, no political push ups,no cheatings, but only hard work, free life, and in brief you can see 'Freedom'.Most of today 'Srilankan Politicians' started their lives in those countries as 'Toilet Cleaners',Gas Station Workers','Spare parts pullers' and 'Labourers'.We know the people. Once Mahathma Ghandhi said I have worked in U.S.A. as a 'Pumpman', when I was in United States.I believe untill we can convert Srilanka to this style Srilanka will never become develop. |
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