| | Tamil migrant held over possible ties to terror group Thursday, 5 November 2009 - 2:58 AM SL Time | | | The Immigration and Refugee Board has ordered a Sri Lankan Tamil migrant to remain in custody after agreeing that the young man - one of 76 who sailed into Canadian waters last month - could have ties to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, viewed by Canada as a terrorist group.
The Canada Border Services Agency had been arguing that the men must be held until their identities are verified. Now, it has switched tactics, arguing that the migrants must be kept in custody while investigators determine whether some have links to the Tamil Tigers.
To back up this argument, the government has relied heavily on the assertions of a Singapore-based terrorism expert, who, citing unnamed sources in Canada, has provided written testimony alleging that some Tigers members may have been aboard the vessel that arrived at the West Coast on Oct. 17.
Prof. Rohan Gunaratna has alleged that the migrant`s vessel may have been used for gun running by the Tigers. However, some defence lawyers have attacked Prof. Gunaratna`s credibility, suggesting he`s biased against Tamils.
But in an oral judgment delivered yesterday afternoon, adjudicator Lynda Mackie agreed that these are reasonable suspicions, which must be further probed before the migrant can be released.
Ms. Mackie also defended Prof. Gunaratna`s credentials.
`He is widely regarded as a terrorism expert in South Asia,` she said.
The Canada Border Services Agency also has evidence that one of its officials found traces of explosive residue on clothing found on the ship. Residue from pentaerythritol tetranitrate, or PETN, was discovered, as was some TNT.
Ms. Mackie said the presence of PETN on clothing could be explained away, but the TNT troubled her.
The migrant, dressed in red prison-issue pants and shirt, was led into the hearing room in handcuffs and leg shackles. Under an Immigration and Refugee Board publication ban, he can`t be identified. The hearing was conducted without a translator because the man speaks English.
Lawyer Lorne Waldman, who represents 15 of the migrants, said he was not surprised at the ruling, but warned that the men can`t be kept in prison indefinitely.
In the meantime, Mr. Waldman said he disagrees with the government`s use of Prof. Gunaratna as an expert witness. He plans to introduce a motion to cross examine the professor at a detention hearing scheduled later this week for one of his clients.
`He`s very controversial, to say the least,` Mr. Waldman said. `He often relies on unverifiable sources as the basis for the assertions that he makes. In the context of the Tamil Tigers, he`s basically biased. He`s clearly been associated with the Sinhalese [the Sri Lankan majority] cause for many, many years. And independent observers are convinced that he`s not objective, especially in relation to the Tamil issue.`
Mr. Waldman also said he wants to cross examine the Canada Border Services Agency official who found the traces of explosives.
Of the 76 men aboard the ship, all but one remain in custody. The migrants have stated that they intend to make refugee claims, and many have relatives in Canada, mostly in the Toronto area. Detention hearings will continue this week in Vancouver.
One of the migrants is wanted by Interpol on suspicions that he smuggled electronic equipment to the Tamil Tigers.
The Tigers are the military arm of the Tamil separatist movement that was at war with the Sri Lankan government for years. Earlier this year, the Sri Lankan government crushed the Tigers. In 2006, Canada labelled the Tigers a terrorist group, in part because it used suicide bombings to attack targets in the Sinhalese-dominated areas of the country.
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The Canada Border Services Agency also has evidence that one of its officials found traces of explosive residue on clothing found on the ship. Residue from pentaerythritol tetranitrate, or PETN, was discovered, as was some TNT.
Ms. Mackie said the presence of PETN on clothing could be explained away, but the TNT troubled her.
Ms. Mackie does not know that all the LTTE ships are powered by hyper-cavitating propulsion systems that were invented by the LTTE, which uses TNT as FUEL :)
P.S.
In that picture.. Prof Gunarathna seems to say.. GOTCHA!! MFER!!
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The migrant, dressed in red prison-issue pants and shirt, was led into the hearing room in handcuffs and leg shackles. Under an Immigration and Refugee Board publication ban, he can't be identified. The hearing was conducted without a translator because the man speaks English.
Damn Canadians...
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Hi Gons:
The Canada Border Services Agency had been arguing that the men must be held until their identities are verified. Now, it has switched tactics, arguing that the migrants must be kept in custody while investigators determine whether some have links to the Tamil Tigers.
links to tamil tigers.....naaa....these guys were running for their lives from the Chinkalavans....ooop, I forgot....they left from Hinida.....running away from the tnadu fidiots.....
sounds like thiviya is sucking hard to keep these queue jumpers in Canada.....she is going to end up with wet tonsils.... |
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Rohan Gunaratna: A controversial figure takes Canada for a ride
By: Peter David
TORONTO - Rohan Gunaratna hits the headlines again. The Globe and Mail reports Tamil migrant held over possible ties to terror group , citing Rohan Gunaratna, the migrant's vessel may have been used for gun running by the Tigers. CBC went one step further and reports Tamil Tigers look to regroup in Canada: expert . 'I cannot think of any other country that is more important for the Tamil Tigers as Canada, to regroup and continue their campaign against Sri Lanka,' it reported according to Prof. Rohan Gunaratna.
Who is Rohan Gunaratna? IS HE RELIABLE? The investigation reveals he is controversial and BIAS TO TAMILS. Rohan Gunaratna born in Sri Lanka, a SINHALESE BY BIRTH, worked for the Government of Sri Lanka between 1984 and 1994 and developed very close links with Sri Lanka s intelligence service.
His recent comment also has his own contradictions. He said Tamil Tigers look to regroup in Canada. But in a interview to the The Nation English weekly in Sri Lanka on May 24th Issue, to a question, Do you foresee any possibility for the LTTE to regroup?, he clearly said, No, absolutely not, if the government of Sri Lanka does things: one is to extradite Kumaran Pathmananthan, his real name is Dharmalingam Shanmugam Kumaran who is now in Thailand, and is travelling back and forth to Malaysia. If he is arrested and brought back to Sri Lanka, the LTTE cannot regroup . Kumaran Pathmananthan already arrested and under the custody of the Sri Lanka authorities.
One former Australian intelligence officer says a problem with Gunaratna s approach is that he tends to look at international terrorism from the perspective of how it relates to the Tamil Tigers.
Toronto Lawyer, Mr. Waldman said he disagrees with the Canadian government's use of Prof. Gunaratna as an expert witness. He plans to introduce a motion to cross examine the professor at a detention hearing scheduled later this week for one of his clients. He s very controversial, Mr. Waldman said. He often relies on unverifiable sources as the basis for the assertions that he makes. In the context of the Tamil Tigers, he s basically biased. He s clearly been associated with the Sri Lankan government and independent observers are convinced that he s not objective, especially in relation to the Tamil issue.
Members of Australia s intelligence community, and in particular ASIO, are known to be dismissive of many of Gunaratna s more sensational statements, such as claims that alleged military chief of the Jemaah Islamiyah network and senior al-Qaeda member Hambali had regularly visited Australia.
In Britain, The Observer newspaper s home affairs editor and long-time writer on Islamic terrorist groups, Martin Bright, describes Gunaratna as the least reliable of the experts on bin Laden . He says Gunaratna is often used by the British authorities as an expert witness in the prosecution of Islamist terror suspects because they can rely on him to be apocalyptic.
In Australia, journalist and commentator on intelligence issues Brian Toohey is one of the few to have openly questioned Gunaratna s credentials, describing him as a self-proclaimed expert and dismissing some of his claims as 'plain silly'. He uses as an example a warning by Gunaratna published in November 2001 that terrorist groups might try to influence Australian politicians by rallying 10,000 or 20,000 votes in their electorates.
There are also allegations of misleading credentials. In his book Inside Al Qaeda, Gunaratna described himself as having been, principal investigator of the United Nations Terrorism Prevention Branch . But when later questioned, Mr. Gunaratna admitted that there was no such position as principal investigator at the UN s Terrorism Prevention Branch and that he had worked there in 2001-02 as a research consultant. Gunaratna also retracted his claim that he was called to address the United Nations, the US Congress and the Australian Parliament in the wake of September 11, 2001 , confirming that in fact he had spoken at a seminar organised by the parliamentary library and given evidence to a US congressional hearing.
Some concerned Tamils in Toronto also point out his recent interview with SBS dateline of Australia as evidence that he is act as a government authority of Sri Lanka. To a question, Can you see the Sri Lankan Government mounting similar operations against other enemies in the Diaspora? , Mr. Gunaratna, replied, Yes. I can share with you that the Sri Lankan Government is already planning to bring a number of other people home .
But when questioned on the issue, the Sri Lankan High Commissioner for Australia, Senaka Walgampaya said, No, no, I'm not informed. These are all being done in Colombo and I've not been kept informed of that .
The Tamils, the reporter talked in Toronto, don t questioned the due process the government following on the recent boat people, but they seriously questioned the validity of having Rohan Gunaratna as an expert on this issue, victimising the people who already victimise by the same people and exposing their own citizens to an external intelligence services, namely the notorious Sri Lankan Intelligence services.
SOME OF HIS CONTRAVERSAL COMMENTS AND THE REALITY CHECK
The claim: In his book Inside al-Qaeda and in several interviews, Rohan Gunaratna gives graphic details of how terrorists planned to hijack a British Airways jet at London s Heathrow Airport on September 11, 2001, and fly it into the British Houses of Parliament. The plot was foiled when aircraft in Britain were grounded immediately after the attack on New York s twin towers. The source for the information was Indian intelligence interrogations of Mohammed Afroz, a 25-year-old Muslim and suspected member of al-Qaeda, arrested in Mumbai on October 3, 2001. Afroz told interrogators he had been to flying schools in Victoria and Britain and also planned to fly a plane into Melbourne s Rialto Towers.
The reality: Afroz was released by an Indian court on indefinite bail in April, 2001 after Indian police failed to bring charges. As part of the investigation, Indian intelligence agents flew to Australia in February 2001 to check out his claims. It was reported after his release that New Delhi police believed Mumbai police made up the sensational claims allegedly made by Afroz. ASIO said in its 2002 annual report that none of the allegations made by Afroz that related to Australia could be corroborated and they were assessed 'to be lacking in credibility'.
The claim: Hambali, the operation commander of the terrorist group behind the Bali bombings, Jemaah Islamiah, and other leaders had visited Australia a dozen times, according to the Australia edition of Rohan Gunaratna s Inside al-Qaeda.
The reality: Attorney-General Daryl Williams said checks within Australia and overseas had failed to find any record of Hambali having travelled to Australia 'under his own name or any known aliases'.
T:)))) LOL
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Hey Bassa !
running away from the tnadu fidiots.....
Yeah.. BEFORE the TN fidiots grant them permanent resident Status :)
she is going to end up with wet tonsils....
LOL
HEY LOOK! She can smell you across 2 timezones too :):):
ROFL mate !! Edited By - gonnamba - 4 Nov 2009 21:58:27 GMT |
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Dr. Gunaratna, during the 'Dateline' program you took great pains to bring in the subject of LTTE into the discussion. You could only do this by saying that LTTE, like many other organizations has links to al-Qa'ida, in terms of technology transfer and training links. But you failed to substantiate this claim with an iota of evidence.
The presenter also failed in asking you for the evidence for your claim. Worse than all this is the claim you made that the LTTE, like many other groups, have terrorist support structures in Australia. You were also quoted by Mark Metherell in the 'Sydney Morning Herald' (27.09.01) to have made similar claims supposed to have been based on five years of research, but you have declined to say to what extent you had derived your information from Australian intelligence agencies. By making these claims you and the media concerned have tarnished the image of the law abiding Tamil citizens of Australia. You could be subjected to a class action for this.
Dr. Gunaratna, the Australian government DOES NOT MAKE DECISIONS based on claims made either by you or the SBS. Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO) only collects and analyzes information on these matters and advises the government. I would like to point out to you ASIO's position on this issue, expressed by one of its officers, well after you have made your claims in public in Australia. The '7.30 Report' of the ABC TV on the 3rd of October had a discussion on the 'ASIO's powers extended'. During this discussion the interviewer, Maxine McKew, quoted you as having said that there are a range of groups such as Hezbollah, the Kurdish Worker's Party and the Tamil Tigers currently in Australia, and Maxine asked from Neil Fergus the ASIO 's Former Manager, Middle East and African Intelligence, whether you were right.
Mr. Fergus answered: 'Yes, there are supporters of those groups. But again Hezbollah is actually in parliament in the Lenbanon and there are a number of people here, and they are good Australians, who support Hezbollah's political aspirations. I think there's a quantum difference between supporting Hezbollah's political aspirations or Tamil independence than supporting people who kill 4,000 civilians in a busy metropolis.' Dr. Gunaratna, can you see that your false propaganda has not made much impact within the Australian intelligence community?
T:)))
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You should have re-posted this Thivya dear.
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IT is already proven that it it people smuggling by LTTE because
Ship's identity is found.
Ship's navigators had traces of explosives in their cloths.
Ship left from Tamilnadu.
At least one guy is in the interpol list.
They were not screened withing 48 hours, instead they are in the jail hand cuffed with steel chanis hanging from their legs.
The funny part is all these so called evidences supplied by the Sinhalese are strengthening their refugee claims in Canada. It helps them to argue the well founded fear of persecution in the Sinhala Terror state. :)))
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The Racists are jealous of you dear.
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The Canada Border Services Agency also has evidence that one of its officials found traces of explosive residue
wonder who tipped the canadians to check for explosive residue?
whoever it was he knew from the very beginning that it was a LTTE gun running ship.
mmmmmmmmmm
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Gons:
Thiviya is quoting from the Tamil Canadian to show up RG .....that's about as close as you can come to a circular argument to prove your own point....lol....what an uneducated fidiot.....she should have just said 'he is a fake becos I said he is a fake'.....same thing....
and Peter David may well be one of those Jaffna tamils educated by the US missionaries who took anglo names.....like Tom George.....what a con artist our demented thiviya is turning out to be.....just like the rest of them....
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How about meeting up for a Big MAc and some fries?
yea, she'll meet you right after she takes a crap in some parking garage.... |
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