Lanka Newspapers

Sri Lanka News Updates with Discussions

Sri Lankan News & Discussions

Search All News and Discussions  

 

SRI LANKA: No Lessons Learnt From `Black July` of 1983
Full News Article
Page  < Prev   | 1  | 2  | 3  | 4  | 5  | 6  | 7  | 8  | 9  | 10  | 11  | 12  | 13  | 14  | 15  | 16  | 17  | 18  | 19  | 20  | 21  | 22  | 23  | 24  | 25  | 26  | 27  | 28  | 29  | 30  | 31  | 32  | 33  | 34  | 35  | 36  | 37  | 38  | 39  | 40  | 41  | 42  | 43  | 44  | 45  | 46  | 47  |  >Next
Mucha-linda
Senior Member

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 4188
Member Profile
LK Information  25 Jul 2008 05:13:02 GMT  Report for Abuse  
ARIYALAI_SB

Your reply contains ample evidence to justify my claim how unfair it is to expect people like you to carryout a factual analysis which your mentors dare not to attempt.

Yes my friend, you can write chapters explaining what a racist I am and what little knowledge I have about nation building. Yet, it remains a fact that people of your ilk cannot consistently explain why Sinhala becoming official language caused epileptic convulsions among Eelamist Tamils, who, for over 100 years, showed no such animosity towards English.

-Muchalinda

.
Ariyalai_SB
Senior Member

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1582
Member Profile
LK Information  25 Jul 2008 06:25:23 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Mucha,

I am in Manila at present thus catching you live!

Yes my friend, you can write chapters explaining what a racist I am and what little knowledge I have about nation building. Yet, it remains a fact that people of your ilk cannot consistently explain why Sinhala becoming official language caused epileptic convulsions among Eelamist Tamils, who, for over 100 years, showed no such animosity towards English.


I am pretty sure that, having engaged with you for a number of years, on one-to-one bases you will never be a racist. In that, I say you are not a racist in a true sense of the word, but an embodiment of Sinhala Buddhist insecurity in the context of Indian Subcontinent. This fear that, Sinhala Buddhists are in danger of assimilation is one that is driving people like to side with extremism.

I am sure I have explained this in the past, but will do again:

Sri Lanka was under colonial rule for about 500 years, and colonialists did not permit the subjects to exercise their choices nor allowed them to use their respective languages for administration though both Sinhala and Tamil were mature languages in every sense of the word. So, people had to be proficient in English to progress and it was common for both Sinhala and Tamil.

I would like to say what I observed in Philippines in contrast to Sri Lanka, that is, in Philippines, they have completely allowed the last Colonialist, the US, to assimilate them in Western way including the language. The English language is the language of administration even today this is easy because their, own dialects were/are inadequate and not suitable for administration.

As for Sri Lanka, both Sinhala and Tamil are not only languages of high calibre, but also attached to deep rooted rich cultures, and this is undeniable. In this context, just 8 years into our independence, the majority community, political expedience, decided to enforce Sinhala Only within 24 hours without any due considerations for the Tamils who principally inhabit in the North and East of the nation. When questioned, people like you through dubious historical claim of the entire nation!

The Sri Lankan Tamils are a distinct group of people who had been historically close to the Sinhalese then to the South India. Only since the cinema ere began there was connection, and it was natural. It was unethical for the Sinhala Buddhists to enforce their hegemony on the Tamils, instead they should acknowledge that the diversity of Sri Lanka should be respected and accommodate the minorities with absolute equality with due decentralisation of power to the regions within a united Sri Lanka. This is what is required at present, and the Sinhala scholars that you mentioned are asking the same.
bagya
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 134
Member Profile
LK Information  25 Jul 2008 17:50:30 GMT  Report for Abuse  
The way things are going on there won't be a Tamil eelam or a Sri lanka after 100 years time instead of having a country with a flag with a emblem of a crescent
Sintamus
Senior Member

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 4515
Member Profile
LK Information  25 Jul 2008 20:10:30 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Even it takes 100 years, Sinhala racism which is tainted with hardcore poison, will not repent or feel remorse for the pogrom let loose on the Tamils. It's the then govt like it's today wanted to destroy the minorities to make the island their own without realising the destruction they cause to themselves.
Lucky777
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1
Member Profile
LK Information  26 Jul 2008 15:06:24 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Pakisothy Sravanamuttu should spell out his policy alternatives to accomodate so called Tamil 'aspirations'!
Jehan Perera is nothing but a traitor who will sell himself to the highest bidder. When will they ever learn!!
Sintamus
Senior Member

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 4515
Member Profile
LK Information  26 Jul 2008 21:57:37 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Govt told the EU delegation that 100 military personnel were found guilty of human rights violations, but, when asked for evidence, it was told they have deserted the SL DF.
Mr. Evans says they were informed officially that some 500 members of the military had been investigated for abuses and 100 had been prosecuted or convicted yet to date there is no evidence to substantiate the claims.
Mucha-linda
Senior Member

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 4188
Member Profile
LK Information  28 Jul 2008 03:00:53 GMT  Report for Abuse  
ARIYALAI_SB,

In that, I say you are not a racist in a true sense of the word, but an embodiment of Sinhala Buddhist insecurity in the context of Indian Subcontinent. This fear that, Sinhala Buddhists are in danger of assimilation is one that is driving people like to side with extremism.


Speaking about insecurity and assimilation, it is nothing but hilarious how you still speak about Sinhala Buddhists feeling feared and unsecured about being assimilated. For a change, let's check what Prof. Alfred Jeyaratnam Wilson had to say about his father-in-law, SJV Chelvanayakam.

Federal Party leaders dwelt constantly on the theme that the Tamils constituted a nation and wished to remain one. They should protect their identity and NOT ALLOW THEM TO BE ASSIMILATED, WHICH THEY ALLEGED WAS THE SINISTER DESIGN OF SINHALA POLITICAL LEADERS. Assimilation would, in any case, place the Tamils at the bottom of the Sinhalese caste ladder, so there was no reason to become part of it. (SJV Chelvanayakam and the Crisis of Sri Lankan Tamil Nationalism, 1947-1977. p68)


Whenever you get a chance, you may also find how Tamil leaders reacted to CP De Silva who is not only a great believer of assimilation, but also a product of it (you may know that he is a Sinhalese who, in his opinion, is a descendant of a Tamil 400 years ago).

That will further attest my criticism that you are bashing the Sinhala Buddhist deer skin without investigating the facts.

Having said that, can you kindly point out which part of your reply addresses the question I raised about Tamils revolting against Sinhala being made the official language, having shown no such animosity towards English that remained the official language for over hundred years.

When questioned, people like you through dubious historical claim of the entire nation!


ARIYALAI, given the severity of this allegation, I am more than happy to know a single incident/occasion where I banked on a dubious historical claim to further a claim. Please note that, I am demanding only ONE such example.

Good luck.

-Muchalinda

.


Edited By - Mucha-linda - 29 Jul 2008 01:27:34 GM
Ariyalai_SB
Senior Member

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1582
Member Profile
LK Information  29 Jul 2008 04:10:21 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Mucha,

I do not have time now, and am away from home, not having access to any of the books. My son, for his final year university dissertation, chose the subject of Social Reasoning behind the Sri Lankan Ethnic Conflict, and as a result, I have access to numerous materials.

http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2007/11/21430_space.html


?Sinhala Buddhists are no different from other groups when it comes to tolerating and perpetrating violence,? is the conclusion of Professor Neil De Votta, Associate Professor of Political Science at Hartwick College in New York. Released this month, his study titled ?Sinhala Buddhist Nationalist Ideology - Implications for Politics and Conflict Resolution in Sri Lanka,? published by the East West Centre Washington, covers very controversial issues in contemporary Sri Lanka including the claim that Sri Lanka is a country exclusively for Sinhalese Buddhists, extreme sentiment against foreign funded Non-Governmental Organizations, and worsening anti-Christian sentiment among others.

According to Prof. De Votta, Sinhala Buddhist Nationalist sentiment is fully embodied and institutionalized as State Policy enabling Sinhala Buddhist majority super-ordination, minority subordination and eventually separatist war. Prof. De Votta's study is clear, well presented and to the point. He has studied the Sri Lankan situation since before 2000 and from a background such as his, the report is hopefully unbiased, although almost saliently none of the currently powerful voices in the Buddhist clergy seem to have been given much say in the theorization and Buddhists ?deep rooted sense of insecurity? is predictably emphasized, rightly or wrongly, perhaps portraying Sinhala Buddhists as a terrified world minority perpetually quaking at the inevitability of ignominious extinction. Predictably a section has been denoted to list out numerous vices Buddhist monks have been alleged to committing ?smoking, drinking, maintaining paramours, taking bribes and ?applying to become lawyers (!)..? concluding that the Sangha is probably no better or worse than clergy of other established religions and expressing concern that such an institution contributes significantly to national policy making, perhaps implying that other clergies do not? Referring to the killing of 17 ACF workers as the worst atrocity against NGOs anywhere in the world, the grim hostility towards foreign funded non-governmental organizations is examined again as part of Sinhala Nationalism, to such a depth practical to this monograph.

A few strangely interesting terms have also crept into his study, (?Buddhist-Muslim clashes? ?Buddhist Taliban? and ?Intellectual Pimps?) and there are a lot of pointers for researchers on where to read from there onwards, but the study itself perhaps presents nothing very radical, simply an underscoring of the idea that Sinhala Buddhist Nationalism based on myth ? history helps perpetuate Sinhala Buddhist supremacy, minority subordination and thus continued separatist war. Sadly it concludes ?continued war and even attacks on Christians and Muslims seem to be in store for Sri Lanka.?


I have said it several times that, the Tamil Nationalism is based on their version of insecurity, and it is perfectly comprehendible given that they are the principal minority in Sri Lanka. They expressed their insecurity at the times of independence negotiations, the 50-50 claim and Federal Concepts etc. D.S. Sananyake allied their fears stating that the Sinhalese would not harm the minorities.

Keeping this in view and the subsequent events proved that, the Sinhalese collectively failed to build a nation of subjects instead elevated themselves to a supreme position. This aspect has been well documented by various scholars both Sri Lankans and others.

Why do you think that the Sinhalese felt the need to secure themselves?

What possible social and political reasoning that you can give to explain this?

ARIYALAI, given the severity of this allegation, I am more than happy to know a single incident/occasion where I banked on a dubious historical claim to further a claim. Please note that, I am demanding only ONE such example.


There is no argument that, the Sinhala language was developed in Sri Lanka, and deep and rich history that is bestowed. However, for you to argue that, the Sri Lankan heritage is exclusively attached to the Sinhala Buddhist is preposterous.

I have said this before: the Sinhala language and Buddhism is inextricably linked, and it is well documented that the Buddhist Monks who brought Buddhism to Sri Lanka were proficient both in Pali and Tamil. When the Buddhism was retreating from the Southern India many Dravidian Buddhists, majority Tamils, took sanctuary in Sri Lanka. There were significant Tamils who were Buddhists present in Sri Lanka when the Sinhala language was evolving. Hence, the contributions of the Tamils in terms of culture, language, and architecture is indisputable.

My other point: if Buddhism had not arrived in Sri Lanka, it is completely palatable that, the Tamil language would have entrenched in Sri Lanka given its maturity before 3rd century BC. On the same taken I say that, if the Chola had not invaded Sri Lanka, the Sinhala language and Buddhism would have blossomed through out the country. This was the reality in a nutshell.

To wilfully and recklessly negate the Tamil contributions to the Sri Lankan heritage amounts to the Sinhala Buddhist Insecurity, and I cannot say any more than that.
Ariyalai_SB
Senior Member

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1582
Member Profile
LK Information  29 Jul 2008 05:59:56 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Mucha,

Having said that, can you kindly point out which part of your reply addresses the question I raised about Tamils revolting against Sinhala being made the official language, having shown no such animosity towards English that remained the official language for over hundred years.


Obviously, you do not want accept that, the English language was common to all subjects in colonised Sri Lanka. As with the Tamils, the Sinhalese also did not have any choice in that either. Like the Tamils, the Sinhalese also had shown no animosity at all towards the English language.

Keeping this in view, upon achieved independence with 1948 constitution, the majority community moved, undemocratically in the context of minority relations, to establish their own language as the official language without any due consideration for the Tamil speaking people who form distinct groups peoples. To unscrupulously support this short-sighted act, the Sinhala Buddhist Chauvinists manipulated the country s history this is the top and bottom of the Sri Lankan conflict.
Mucha-linda
Senior Member

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 4188
Member Profile
LK Information  31 Jul 2008 00:09:50 GMT  Report for Abuse  
ARIYALAI_SB,

Thank you for finding some time in your seemingly busy schedule to compile a reply, no matter how unfocused it is. Luckily, I am not busy today and therefore have time to carefully read your tirades to extract only what is relevant.

As such, let me limit my reply only to the points that are relevant.

Why do you think that the Sinhalese felt the need to secure themselves?
What possible social and political reasoning that you can give to explain this?


Before anything, let me kindly tell you that this question is wrong and invalid. I, as a Sinhala, do never think that we feel/felt insecure at all. Recognizing the language and the religion of Sinhalas in their due places in the culture of this land is in no way amount to any feeling of lack of security. In contrary, why, in your opinion, should Sinhalas feel insecure. Please answer.

There is no argument that, the Sinhala language was developed in Sri Lanka, and deep and rich history that is bestowed. However, for you to argue that, the Sri Lankan heritage is exclusively attached to the Sinhala Buddhist is preposterous.


I have nowhere denounced the contributions made by other cultures including Tamil to nourish the Sinhala culture. If you are not aware, please note that I have vehemently expressed the rich lexical contribution made by Tamil language to shape Sinhala to its present form. However, that should not deter anyone from recognizing the heritage of this island as a one Sinhala Buddhist. No culture in this world is pure. Almost all the cultures, heritages in this world have been influenced and nourished by cultures alien to them (and Tamil is not an exception). However, such contributions made by alien cultures have never added to recognize a given heritage in association to those alien cultures in any other part of this planet and therefore should remain the same for Sinhala Buddhists.

In brief, if the Buddhist epic Manimekhalai can remain as a masterpiece of TAMIL LITERATURE, in spite of the fact that Tamils became Buddhist under the influence of other cultures, why should it be different when it comes to Sinhala Buddhism.

Obviously, you do not want accept that, the English language was common to all subjects in colonised Sri Lanka. As with the Tamils, the Sinhalese also did not have any choice in that either. Like the Tamils, the Sinhalese also had shown no animosity at all towards the English language.


It is not clear what, in your opinion, I have become reluctant to accept. What you have done instead, is reiterating your stance without visiting the question I raised.

It is true that both Sinhalas and Tamils did not have much choice under the rule of British invaders. However, it is wrong to say that Sinhalas had shown no animosity towards English. There exist factual evidence to that effect, and above all, that is what made Sinhalas to give their language official status. However, this is not the same for Tamils. They had shown no hesitation to accept English as their official language and they only became agitated when Sinhala is given the due status.

What you have to answer in no uncertain terms is what has made Tamils to become so agitated about Sinhala being given its due status, provided they have shown no such animosity towards accepting English as the official language over a period of hundred years. If you find this so hard to answer, you may seek some help from Prof. Neil De Votta, given his immense interest and knowledge in the area of Sinhala Buddhist nationalism.

-Muchalinda

.


Edited By - Mucha-linda - 31 Jul 2008 00:17:09 GM
 Post a reply to this      E-mail this to a friend
Page  < Prev   | 1  | 2  | 3  | 4  | 5  | 6  | 7  | 8  | 9  | 10  | 11  | 12  | 13  | 14  | 15  | 16  | 17  | 18  | 19  | 20  | 21  | 22  | 23  | 24  | 25  | 26  | 27  | 28  | 29  | 30  | 31  | 32  | 33  | 34  | 35  | 36  | 37  | 38  | 39  | 40  | 41  | 42  | 43  | 44  | 45  | 46  | 47  |  >Next



(C) 2000-2008 www.lankanewspapers.com - Sri Lankan News & Discussions - Contact Us - RSS Feed - News Archives - src - FAQ
Welcome to the largest news forum on Sri Lanka. This is a discussion table for millions of Sri Lankans living around the world to express their thoughts on the latest Sri Lankan news events. This site is a powerful tool for all Sri Lankan ethnic groups to share information, knowledge and wisdom.