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Berty
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 15 Jul 2008 02:27:52 GMT Report for Abuse
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Exactly..They all should be compensated..Pls read this thread again and please read my first post..I agree to the thread that Houses to be given to the Forces as they are fighting a war and some are dead and some are disabled..I did not look at this discussion as Tamils Vs Sinhalese like you do..if i have I would have been against it.
If Sinhalese have a story about Tamils burning or chasing them away they also deserve a place..(Muslims also do have a story to tell and they should be compensated too)
Lalith what your trying to say here is the Forces deserve a House but not the Tamils who lost everything or as you now say the sinhalese chased from Tamil areas there is no need for compensation for Tamils who lost everything in 1983 riots..I suppose everyone is a Victim..
One thing i want to say about Appapillei Amirthalingham..he is never an innocent man and he was the leader of the Fedral party.His son was studying with me (junior) at St Johns..
When your an MP and your the leader of a Political Party..UR always a Political Target specially with LTTE.
I am so sorry to hear about your BIL and FYI, I lived and studied in Trinco for one year..and my aunty was living down lovers Lane
If you take this conflict and the thread it is only Gosl giving compensation for the deaths of Sinhalese by LTTE..nothing else..
I have no objection but I want the Gosl to give compensation to others too..That is my whole point..it is not about Tamils/Sinhalese or who killed/looted/burnt Lalith
Everyone is a Victim someway and we are all Sri lankans..all should be looked upon the same way..
I am surprised on one thing..I don't see you feeling bad about the 1983 riots and I see you only giving other examples to override that issue. |
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 15 Jul 2008 04:55:54 GMT Report for Abuse
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Berty,
I am surprised on one thing..I don't see you feeling bad about the 1983 riots and I see you only giving other examples to override that issue.
Buddy,
1983 July I was in Sri Lanka and on the 23rd Morning I went to BMICH for a seminar and when I coming to Colombo by bus the news was breaking about some thugs ransacking the Kanatta area. It slowly spread to Borella and that the Bullers road Junction I could see famous dosa place 'Shanthi Vihar' on fire and another Tamil shop opposite that was smoking too. There was Air Force guards there. I went to the seminar and at about 11 some one came to the room and told us that curfew had been declared and everyone to leave ASAP. I came up to Buller road I couldn't get a Taxi or a
3 wheeler as everybody was in a hurry to get away.
I walked all the way to Walukarama Road to my in-laws place. Then I could see a Tamil Egg shop was attacked and some had thrown a
box of eggs to the middle of the Bullers road and to the noon heat there was a big 'Bull's eye' frying on the middle of the road. It was a funny scene to see so much eggs frying on the middle of the road. Came to Bamba junction and could see St.Anthony's Hardware Steel Door opened and People taking TV radios etc. From the Galle Road I could smoke bellowing from Wellawata area. I din't want to risk my life go home and stay put at Kollpity.
Someone came shouting to my father-in-law that some thugs in a Lorry has come to Deal Place and set fire to a house. I went running there to see what was happening and I saw few guys in Milk Board lorry came and ransacked the house. I could see his Typewriter. Sewing Machine, books thrown in front of the house and set fire. Man, I din't have the guts act alone. Then some more neighbors came and we took that Gent and the Lady away. Their lives were spared but the house was burned. There were Sinhala, Muslim neighbors. Berty, so you see, You made be brag and tell this story. I was not very proud to be a Sinhalese that day. I saw, I experienced what a mob is capable of. I felt very bad and shocked as to what had taken place. I don't know whether you were in Colombo or Jaffna that day. But I experienced July 23rd 1983 first hand. I am sure most of the LNP members here would have been young kids going to schools. |
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15 Jul 2008 09:23:15 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lalith
Thanks for the update..The day was JULY 25th...exactly 1 month after my wedding (25th of June 2008)..I just celebrated my 25th Wedding Anniversary. it was a Monday..We were both in Colombo and we were living in Ratmalana..I was in a Car with my wife (we were both working in Colpetty)we drove from Colpetty to Ratmalana..I don't want to talk about it..That scene and my experience changed me completely and I decided I have to leave SL.
Most of the killing was done on the 29th when there was a rumour that Tigers have come to Colombo.
I lost a cousin who was burnt, he was small teenager and went to buy bread for his sick mother..
The Armed forces that you would like to see provided houses was standing by and watching people killed, property destroyed and houses burnt and looted..
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15 Jul 2008 14:43:43 GMT Report for Abuse
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Berty buddy,
You could be correct with the date. So you see, this is only a part of what I witnessed. You as a Tamil would have sought protection and not roamed about. But, as a Sinhalese I roamed about with precaution. The organized looter were in full force, then the petty thieves were there, grab and run crowd was there, on top that there were decent caring Sinhalese getting involved and giving protection to the Tamils from the mob. It was utter chaos. This is what the Tamils have forgotten. I was reading the Mississauga web site that your posted in several post for the utmost publicity. They hardly mention the caring decent Sinhalese who risked their life to save the innocent Tamils. We have become the brunt of LTTE insults and derogatory comments. Our past leaders slept when you guys got organized and lobbied hard for international sympathy for the Tamil cause. That worked well till recently when Mahinda realizes what has happened. He countered with a similar lobby and came up with several effective web sites that explained the atrocities committed by the LTTE. The laid back Sinhalese also joined in had several sites that made the international community stop and take notice. Mahinda won the Propaganda war and he is determined to go all the way when his brother narrowly escaped with death by the Tuk tuk bomber near Liberty Plaza. Same with Sarath Fonseka. So you see, two determined Soldiers who escaped death now has taken this as a personal mission to seek and end to this menace.
This war is fought in two places one in Vanni and the other on the Internet. Look like GOSL is winning both. The internation community once supported and
gave a fair hearing has come to realizes what the LTTE is all about. Funds and the crowds are dwindling slowly. Friends are not returning the LTTE telephone calls. All good thing has to come to end one day.
The Armed forces that you would like to see provided houses was standing by and watching people killed, property destroyed and houses burnt and looted..
I don't think you thought much about this before you wrote the above. The Armed forces just buried 13 of their brave at Kanatta and you expect to come to the rescue of the Tamils? Of course they were standing and watching. |
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16 Jul 2008 02:41:23 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lalith
This thread started with building Houses for the VICTIMS..in the article of urs it is about the Soldiers and go again and read my first post..I agreed but i also asked the same for Tamils who lost their properties in 1983 riots...from the time i said that all you have done is quote LTTE incidents and others who have suffered or killed other than Tamils. I take that as a 'NO' to give Tamils any compensation.
I never said a word about LTTE and I never denied LTTE is the cause of so many Killings. I also said if a Sinhalese have suffered either in the hands of Tamils or LTTE they should be also given compensation. It is fair to draw a conclusion as to all SRI LANKAN Citizens who suffered to be given compensation.
Yes!! There were not a few but a lot of Sinhalese who helped Tamils during the riots and Most of the Tamils are still thankful for that.I don't think they will ever say anything adverse about the help they received.
I think you hav e twisted the whole issue into a LTTE/Tamil Vs Gosl/SL forces/Sinhalese issue
I don't think you thought much about this before you wrote the above. The Armed forces just buried 13 of their brave at Kanatta and you expect to come to the rescue of the Tamils? Of course they were standing and watching.
what ru saying? if they bury 13 of their own men they are not bound to protect the Citizens of SL..what rubbish is that lalith. They did not do their duties cos the orders came from the racist leaders at that time.
I am not sure you read the article on How the bodies were supposed to go to south but JRJ allowed it to come to Kanatte. anyway there is no point in discussing the riots with you cos your convinced there is nothing wrong about it..
I was reading the Mississauga web site that your posted in several post for the utmost publicity.
That is NOT True..I posted it twice..once in the main thread where some commented positively and then on Thivya's space..
In your eyes it is a publicity but in my eyes it was a very SAD memory..It brings back the good time we spent with my cousin before he was killed...
There is a say in Tamil..which goes like only if you get the headache and the flu, you will know the pain..
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 16 Jul 2008 03:38:36 GMT Report for Abuse
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Berty,
I love this long conversations. Most of the post here are drive-by comments. He is for your record. Those who lost house and property in the 1983 riots should be compensated in my book. But, I doubt it will ever happen. I am very frank here. You might not like to hear this but this. about this, I have strong feeling. There are many reasons why it wouldn't happen in the near future. Think about this. Which Sinhala Politician will have the guts to come to the floor of the parliament and propose to apologies and acknowledge what happened in July 1983 and ask to compensate without putting his life and political life in jeopardy.?
There will be years of legal wrangling to come to get compensation.
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Berty
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16 Jul 2008 14:42:18 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lalith
That was a very frank and accepted answer..I am with you on that point..
That is only place i feel sometimes i am not considered as a SL citizen equal to the majority..
I think we discussed issues like grown ups without the normal name calling etc in the main forum.
You know what lalith..we have great intelligent people on both sides, Do you think we are incapable to find a solution to all these issues..We can buddy..this is dirty politics and LTTE.
Thank you and have a cool one..not keeping too well..touch of flu but have to go to office tomorrow cos of some conference calls. Good night buddy
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