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Chief Peace Negotiator Nimal Siripala de Silva says Govt not keen on talks with Tigers
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 11 Feb 2008 03:09:33 GMT Report for Abuse
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Chief Peace Negotiator Nimal Siripala de Silva says Govt not keen on talks with Tigers
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Magha,
Racist is a person who believes that one's own race is superior to others.
Says who? Racist is one who discriminates on the basis of race - even if s/he does not belong to either race under scrutiny.
In that aspect you have shown to be a racist in many of your postings.
I have shared my credits with fellow Tamils who I believe have been disadvantaged by unjust racial discrimination in Sri Lanka. I am however careful to do it outside the area covered by Objectively measurable merit basis actually practiced by others involved. In other words the individual's credit is protected on the basis of universal system before sharing my credit with the group in need. This now happens to be Tamils in Sri Lanka. I am using affirmative action to compensate for the damage caused by your race. I am therefore practicing affirmative action on behalf of the International Community which has failed democracy.
I do not believe that there is a Singhala race but a Singhala nationality which has its roots of thousands of years.
In other words Sri Lanka belongs to Sinhala people. AND YOU SAY YOU ARE NOT A RACIST?
Once you recognize difference due to race, you need to consciously and expressly override your natural inclinations with your race. When you keep denying it - you will raise race to the national level - as you have just done
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11 Feb 2008 03:18:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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Magha,
I do criticize Tamil racism which had shown in the modern history of Sri Lanka that we Sri Lankans are different from each other, hence needs power sharing according to the ethnicity but not according to the needs of the people
Knowingly or otherwise, majority race used majority power to administer the country and this seriously disadvantaged Tamils who as a priority invested in higher education - especially to earn money. Given that the majority race did not feel connected to the Tamils they could not have known intuitively the needs of Tamils which were different to the needs of Sinhalese. I observe with amazement and appreciation how the children of parents who have sacrificed for higher education or for those who have invested in higher education, picking up knowledge more comfortably than others from groups that are driven by business or governance through majority power as a priority. So your analogy about Mahavamsa applies to your theory about the needy.
that other nationalities should not come to Tamil areas to live as those are only for Tamils with their Tamil historical home land theory
The reality is that Tamils have lived in their own areas/ghettoes over years and years. So they feel that that land is naturally theirs. As for not allowing other nationalities to enter those lands - we have no such official policy nor have we ruled out on that basis any individual who has entered our lands voluntarily. This is more than what could be said about the University of NSW - a leading Australian institution which denied me entry on the basis that I was Sri Lankan. There is no other lawful basis to keep me out. So they used the natural basis. I conclude that we Tamils are more civilized than majority race in Australia.
and also their racist claims that they are intellectually superior to any other ethnicity in the country
A statement of fact that is supported by statistics and that sent fears into the minds of Sinhalese leaders - prompting them to introduce the quota system.
disregarding the unequal opportunity the people of this country had in western type of education for 400 years of European colonialism.
That was the way Natural Justice balanced the system so Sri Lanka as a whole did not suffer due to your group's backwardness. I did not disregard it. I did not have the need to highlight it. You are now revealing that you suffered from that disadvantage. You would not have felt it if your section of the race had been close to the ruling class.
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11 Feb 2008 03:37:38 GMT Report for Abuse
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Magnum,
Then BAN the LTTE and declare that it's members are outlawed!
He would not dare. Keep dreaming as Fairplay said
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 11 Feb 2008 04:22:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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Too big to baned them,
reducing numbers to accommodate.
or introduce capital punishment for terrorists. |
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Says who? Racist is one who discriminates on the basis of race - even if s/he does not belong to either race under scrutiny.
Racism, is the act of discrimination when it comes to society comprise of different ethnicities or cultures, but Racist is the one who believes the doctrine that involves the idea that ones own race is superior to other.
Since I am against discrimination and do not believe in Singhala superiority, I can not be a Racist. However since you believe in the Ideology of Tamil superiority , a Tamil home land theory which is again a tool for discrimination of one ethnicity from other, believe in the validity and justification of Thesavalami law in Jaffna which it self is a dicriminatory law ,you are indeed a Racist.
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I do not believe that there is a Singhala race but a Singhala nationality which has its roots of thousands of years.
That was what I said.
But Gaja Lakshmi, you come to conclusions like this,
In other words Sri Lanka belongs to Sinhala people. AND YOU SAY YOU ARE NOT A RACIST?
Gaja Lakshmi,
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11 Feb 2008 05:22:46 GMT Report for Abuse
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| The question is the quality of life of these terrorists. Do they count as one of us. It is same with the one man one vote. Some don't deserve to vote. |
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Magha,
Racism, is the act of discrimination when it comes to society comprise of different ethnicities or cultures, but Racist is the one who believes the doctrine that involves the idea that ones own race is superior to other.
Discrimination is to think hierarchically to allocate vertical positions. Differentiation is to recognize that we are different and ensure that we consider each other to be Equal until proven otherwise.
The basis on which this differentiation occurs is sometimes race. During my times in Sri Lanka - this was a specific question in some official forms. The moment you recognized Sinhala nationalism you differntiated. Given that you failed to recognize Tamil nationalism in Sri Lanka - you are positioning yourself above Sri Lankan Tamils.
If a group of people have invested more than another group in a particular issue - say higher education or public administration - and there is denial of credit at the individual level for this through the Common Law - then there is a requirement for that person to add his/her work to benefit the group that naturally identifies with that person. Take for example, my status as senior member in this forum. Had I done the work to earn that status but was not awarded senior member position - then it was my duty to share my credit with the group that 'naturally' identifies with me. In this forum that is more Tamils than Sri Lankans or worse Sinhalese. If I failed to do that - I was risking assimilation with the group in power.
Where this division is between say management and worker - then it is important that we add our individual power to our side and hence Unions and Employer groups. This is also the basis on which family works.
Where society has developed higher level merit based discrimination, it is damaging to discriminate on lower bases - such as caste and race. But where the system fails to uphold merit based outcomes - for whatever reason - say through quota system - and the effect is damaging to a particular racial group - that is unjust and this has been made unlawful in progressive countries. To my knowledge, there is no racial discrimination legislation in Sri Lanka. In Australia, there is but it is disfuntional.
Right now, it is important to promote racial equality in Sri Lanka because people already differentiate on the basis of race. The armed forces have to. Hence the functional purpose of race based discrimination in Sri Lanka is to promote racial equality at the adminsitrative and social level. At the political level, given that majority are Sinhalese - we would still have racial superiority. It is a fact even though you avoid recognizing it.
There is value in this - because majority citizens seek to identify naturally and therefore the majority vote. Only a small percentage - possibly 20 percent - seek intellectual discrimination and universal outcomes.
In Australia, there is discrimination on the basis of whether one is Aboriginal or Torres Straight Islander? This is allowed for through Article 2.2 of the International Convention on the elimination of all forms of racial discrimination. This article states:
States Parties shall, when the circumstances so warrant, take, in the social, economic, cultural and other fields, special and concrete measures to ensure the adequate development and protection of certain groups or individuals belinging to them, for the purpose of guaranteeing them the full and equal enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms. These measures shall in no case entail as a consequence the maintenance of unequal or separate rights for different racial groups after the objective for which they were taken have been achieved
In other words, by continuing to ask those questions our governments recognize that the objective of racial equality has not yet been achieved in Australia.
In summary - where discrimination happens for functional purposes - it is just. Otherwise it leads to idle power creation which could take assumed by those in powerful positions and their accomplices.
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11 Feb 2008 06:14:29 GMT Report for Abuse
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Magha,
Gaja Lakshmi,
What you say or your interpretations make no sense, you are confused.
Alright - please give your definition of Nationalism. How can you have Sinhala nationalism without Sinhala nation? I do not know of any other country which qualifies for Sinhala Nationalism statement. Do you?
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