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sarathk
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  17 Jan 2008 12:03:28 GMT  Report for Abuse   
You Crazy Jvp Idiots,Now only You Wake Up, Last Month You Idiots Were Sleeping
Bonggo
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  17 Jan 2008 12:12:41 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Raigam,

We should all rally round for those changes to be implemented and get a good government which is more accountable and transperant


You have seen a nice dream!

P007,

The point is that though JR was President at the time the 15th Amendment was made, it was just 2 days before the 1988 Presidential Elections on 19.12.88. Surely JR has no interest in any Constitutional Amendments just 2 days before the election


Note again, Premadasa was sworn in as President in January 1989.

The Parliament was dissolved on 20 November 1988, so this legislation should have been passed before the dissolution. There is no way an amendment to the Constitution could be approved when the Parliament is dissolved. However, it is possible to pass a law and promulgate it on a later date. For example, the 17th Amendment to the Constitution was passed on 25.09.2001 and promulgate on 03.10.2001.

Similarly, Parliament would have passed the 15th Amendment before its dissolution in November 1988 and it was promulgated on 17.12.1988 (please see this link for details: http://www.priu.gov.lk/Cons/1978Constitution/ConstitutionalReforms.htm).

May be Premadasa would have proposed it as advised by Ashraff (I do not dispute that) but if JR did not agree it would not have gone through Parliament under his tenure.


Edited By - Bonggo - 17 Jan 2008 12:15:34 GMT
p007
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  17 Jan 2008 12:37:51 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Bonggo

May be Premadasa would have proposed it as advised by Ashraff (I do not dispute that) but if JR did not agree it would not have gone through Parliament under his tenure.


The moment Premadasa was nominated as the UNP Pres. candidate, I would imagine it must be at least 2 months before the election which would make it somewhere in October 1988, JR became a lame duck Pres.

Premadasa had a free hand on campaigning and the unfettered use of Party and state facilities for electioneering purposes. Although legally JR had all the powers of the President, in practice he had no say in what Premadasa did in the run up to the elections. Even if JR didn't like some actions of Premadasa, he had to go along with it because if Premadasa's tactics didn't work it was his and not JR's funeral.

The 15th Amendment would have to be viewed in this background. JR would have been merely and observer agreeing to the Amendment as it was part of an election deal with Ashroff. Even if JR hated the Amendment, there was nothing he could have done to prevent it.
CholaPandyan
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  17 Jan 2008 13:45:43 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Nada,

Even 'educated men' like Mucha are of the latest tribe with distorted truth and sincerely believe in Sinhala supremacy!!


What these so called 'educated men' cannot realize is that due to this type of beliefs and actions, they are destroying the future of their own people.

Tens of Thousands of young Sinhala women are slaving in the Middle East and they have absolutely no hope of getting back to a better situation in their homeland. So desperate the country will be, more and more young Sinhala women will go out to earn but by selling their morals and bodies.

What a terrible price the country and its majority is paying just because these so called 'educated men' are determined to keep the minorities as second class citizens.
Bonggo
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  17 Jan 2008 14:05:17 GMT  Report for Abuse   
P007,

Yes, it could be the reason given by you as well.

BTW I learnt something new today, that is about the 16th Amendment to the Constitution which was enacted on the same date as the 15th.

16th Amendment gives equal status to Sinhala and Tamil. It also says that government correspondence could be done in both languages. Although I knew it was in the Constitution, I did not know it was through the 16th Amendment, thanks to P007.

I do not understand why no prominence is given to this. Sri Lanka is the only country where Tamil is a national language.
Gamma
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  18 Jan 2008 01:06:15 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Bonggo, p007, very interesting discussion going on. Thank you guys for your worthy contribution.
Shakti
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  18 Jan 2008 02:01:28 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Recently GOSL has attacked almost all JVP backed strikes.


Yes, I have noticed. Motta Raala had stopped funding his once beloved ravul mallila so the jeppas have started using till (keta) to find money.

I am so happy about these changes. If MR behaves like this perhaps I might even consider voting him in the next election. :-)

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p007
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  18 Jan 2008 02:06:09 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Bonggo

Although I knew it was in the Constitution, I did not know it was through the 16th Amendment, thanks to P007.


I was only focussing on the 15th Amendment because of its relevance to our discussion. I didn't really know what the 16th Amendment was about. Thanks to you, now I know.

I do not understand why no prominence is given to this. Sri Lanka is the only country where Tamil is a national language.


No prominence is probably because it is ONLY in the Constitution. In practice, it means little except when National events are observed.

In Singapore, Tamil is one of the four official languages. Here again, it might mean little in practice as, to the best of my knowledge, all business including government transactions are carried out in English.

In Malaysia, Tamil is a medium of instruction in the government-managed national primary school system. It is also a language medium in the public broadcasting system.
p007
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  18 Jan 2008 02:09:18 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Gamma

Bonggo, p007, very interesting discussion going on. Thank you guys for your worthy contribution.


Thanks mate for the appreciation which is really very encouraging.
Shakti
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  18 Jan 2008 02:20:31 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Bonggo,

You said this??? I cannot belive it! Did anyone stope your password and posted under yourname?

I do not understand why no prominence is given to this. Sri Lanka is the only country where Tamil is a national language.


Come on man, in India Tamil is one of the 16 national languages and in Singapore it is one of the 4 national languages.

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