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Church `supports` Burmese monks
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Shakti
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 1 Oct 2007 02:35:41 GMT Report for Abuse
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What a dramatic twist of events.
The JVP/JHU Yuan kakkas are deaf and dumb about the plight of the Buddhist monks in Burma, so only the church is there to support them.
Shows how little amount of Yuan one needs spent to buy BOTH the JVP and JHU.
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Mucha-linda
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 1 Oct 2007 05:54:02 GMT Report for Abuse
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SHAKTI,
Situation in Burma is much more complex than what appears from outside. According to my knowledge, both JHU and JVP know that and thus their silence. Do not try to over simplify that through your *buying and selling* theories when you know that is not the case. Most of these people know and therefore have their doubts about the situation in Burma. For example, they have reasonable doubts about the forces backing Karen Guerrillas and the religious beliefs of the paternal ancestors of Aung San Suu Kyi. However, none of these parties want to look aligned with the ruling Junta for obvious reasons, and therefore have chosen to keep quiet.
Besides, the quick response came out from the Anglican Church itself is enough for any sensible person to understand the complexity of the situation, especially given the lethargic behaviour of the very church about the victories of the SL Forces in the east.
BTW, I have a different question to ask you. We all know how vehemently you, *as a good Buddhist*, opposed the participation of Buddhist Monks in politics of Sri Lanka. My question is whether you are ready to oppose the participation of Buddhist Monks in Burmese politics by the same token.
-Muchalinda
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Edited By - Mucha-linda - 1 Oct 2007 06:36:28 GMT |
wick
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1 Oct 2007 14:32:21 GMT Report for Abuse
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Church got scared they knew what is going to be the next step of Singhalese.
Do not shed tears.
PEE Demalas instigating us to set fire to Churches.
At this point we are not going to that.
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alwaysalion
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 1 Oct 2007 15:33:00 GMT Report for Abuse
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What a LNP?
If the JVP or JHU spoke before the Church, they would have got blasted by the members.And when they don't say anything
they still get blasted!
At the rate we act, we may never bring a peaceful solution
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 1 Oct 2007 15:41:20 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kiora.........
You have taken my thread out of context.
It is to Rev. DC that I refered to as christians. |
Mucha-linda
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2 Oct 2007 02:22:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear READERS,
When the Sri Lankan Forces conquered East, this same Rt.Rev. Duleep Chikera (Anglican Bishop of Colombo) issued a statement. In that he has nowhere uttered his solidarity with Sri Lankan forces for the leadership they provided to that *mass agitation*. Instead, he has preached us the beauty serene of peace and the destruction caused by any form of war, riot etc.
For example, to quote some of the things he said,
In a war there are no winners and losers. All lose, including the ones who think they win.
An escalation of war correspondingly demands an escalation of destruction to the economy and environment, an escalation of the war budget, an escalation of budgetary cuts apportioned for essential welfare services, an escalation of Government borrowing, an escalation of indebtedness of future generations and indeed escalation of human revenge, pride and hatred? The responsibility of democratic leadership then, is to work earnestly and urgently to end war and achieve a just and stable socio-economic order through non violent, negotiated means.
It appears this good Bishop like his predecessor Bishop Kenneth Fernando (the one who is said to have seen a humane side of Prabhakaran!!) have double standards when it comes to negotiated settlements. In case of Sri Lanka, he, in no uncertain terms demands the democratically elected Sri Lankan government to sit down and talk with Tigers without imposing the rule of the country on them by force. However, in case of Myanmar, he has no doubt that the ruling Junta should leave the office with no conditions.
-Muchalinda
PS: I am no way taking any sides on this matter. My sole intention is to reveal the double standards of people like Rt. Rev. Duleep Chickera and institutions represent by them. In that sense the only side I take is the one opposing that of those preaching double standards.
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Edited By - Mucha-linda - 2 Oct 2007 02:24:23 GMT |
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2 Oct 2007 09:04:26 GMT Report for Abuse
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The Burmese Supreme Sangha Council had issued strict edicts for renegade members of the Sangha to refrain from political activity. While the brutality of the government is to be condemned, it must be noted that the conduct of some of the yellow robed ones was far from peaceful.
Thanks to monks getting into politics since 1950s in Sri Lanka, our precious Motherland has gradually declined inevery way, a bloodthirsty terrorist movement(LTTE) created, the image of Sri Lanka in general and the Sinhala race in particular tarnished, with half the country dangerously close to being given on a platter to Tamil Separatists. Our POLITICAL monks are a disgrace to the enlightened one and his teachings. Our brave Soldiers are sacrificing their lives to undo some of the damage which was caused as a result of our POLITICAL monks activities. |
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Mucha-linda, regarding chikera's soft stance on the tigers and their sympathisers, i agree with you but believe this is mainly because of the high percentage of tamil clergymen and lay parishioners in the colombo diocese.
Most of these people know and therefore have their doubts about the situation in Burma. For example, they have reasonable doubts about the forces backing Karen Guerrillas and the religious beliefs of the paternal ancestors of Aung San Suu Kyi. However, none of these parties want to look aligned with the ruling Junta for obvious reasons, and therefore have chosen to keep quiet.
One must always question motivations when the western world is mobilised (as it is now) on a particular issue. where the west 'nods in approval' i am little suspicious of why that nod has been given. the americans have in the past given military aid to the junta, so needless to say one's curiosity is aroused when the USA comes out as strongly as it did at the UN last week. why now? what's changed? the mere act of the demonstrators is not enough. something else is going on here.
my question is what? you seem to have some idea. I would like you to enlighten me. |
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It is absolutely disgusting to see certain members of this forum insulting and denigrating the faith and religion of other members. The posts of such members show complete insensitivites to the feelings of members and their actions themselves is sufficient evidence to the status of these own members in their society.
This forum should not tolerate such bigotry and hatred!
The show of solidarity of Sri Lanka's Anglican Bishop with the Buddhist clergy of Myanmar is indeed something which we should celebrate! I am shocked at the silence of Sri Lanka's Buddhist clergy and the population in general at the atrocities happening in Burma. Here is a country whose own people have suffered decades under a brutal dictatorship and when their most venerated clergy steps out to demand peacefully for the freedom of their people, the regime responds by massacring them in the thousands! Have people failed to see pictures of floating corpses of the clergy in the City's rivers?
If Sri Lanka's Buddhist clergy can go on demonstrations against Buddha Bar CDs, and films with the Buddha in other countries, I don't see any reason why no one can step out against Buddhists being massacred in the thousands in a country like Burma?! It shows the frailty and hipocrisy of present day Buddhism and the Buddhist clergy of Sri Lanka.
The monks are keen to fight for clauses which gaurantees state protection for Buddhism, but have completely lost the plot when it comes to what exactly is meant by protection! The State and the clergy have a duty to protect and foster the values of Buddhism - and those values are of liberty and freedom. The right to life, the right to live that life free.
I wonder whether members of this forum are aware that the Prime Minister of Burma visited Sri Lanka about a month back and two weeks prior to these protests. He was of course greeted by our Buddhist clergy and given an exclusive tour of the Dalada Maligawa, completely oblivious to what he had in plan to do with the clergy in his own country. I believe our monks are more reeling under their own shame and hypocrisy than anything else at this point!
It's time they quit this farce and go in front of the Burmese Embassy (like they are so eagre to do in front of the U.S., U.K and Norwegian Embassies) and show them that their real solidarity is with the people of Burma and the monks of Burma that are suffering brutally and not with the Junta! |
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2 Oct 2007 16:31:38 GMT Report for Abuse
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It's time they quit this farce and go in front of the Burmese Embassy (like they are so eagre to do in front of the U.S., U.K and Norwegian Embassies) and show them that their real solidarity is with the people of Burma and the monks of Burma that are suffering brutally and not with the Junta!
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