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President Rajapaksa has no true mandate to rule - Ranil
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anizam
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11 Sep 2007 21:09:23 GMT  Report for Abuse   
But I feel should the JVP let UNP win that will probably be the end of the JVP too. Remember whenever a UNP government comes to power its v bad news for JVP, and they know that so make a snap poll tomorrow JVP will back Mahinda so UNP will have no chance of ruling.


I understand what your saying and im not trying to deny it. The JVP would prefer MR (SLFP) anyday over RW (UNP).
However given the situation today, i dont know if a repeat is possible.

Of the political parties out there today, the JVP know the mood of the people better than anyone else. They used this to their advantage very well in the 2004 elections. If MRs popularity is rising like what some people on LNP say, then the JVP would be the first to be with MR.

In 2004 the JVP and the SLFP got to gether and gave new hope to the people saying they have solutions for all the problems. A JVP + SLFP alliance had never been tried before. BUt what happened in the end?? What happened to Rata perata???

In 2005 the JVP and the SLFP did a repeat. This time they blamed CBK for everything that went wrong and said - MR will be the solution for all the problems and gave them new hope. We can all see whats happening today. :)

So the people have been fooled TWICE in just a matter of 2 years. In most countries this would not have happened twice. But this is SL - so...

But what is the maggic selling point next time? If the JVP and MR can give hope, then there would be no reason for an election. On the contrary the JVP is being pushed by the UNP to make a stand. Either you are with the govt or against it. Come next election (whenever that is) What is MR + JVP going to offer the people that they didnt offer in the past and failed?

You can fool people once, twice, three times (in SL may be four or five times) but eventually you run out of LIES.

In the begining the JVP kept quite about all the misdeeds of MR. But the moment Mangala corssed over and the UNP+Mangala campaign started pulling the crowds, the JVP is at it. This is where the brillaince of Mangala comes to play. The present campaign by the UNP + mangala is not to immidiately bring down the govt. First you have to force the JVP take a stand. Even if they lose votes in Parliament, you force the JVP to take a stand.

Every day MR clings on to power he messes up the economy a little more. Last week it was a gas price hike. This week it was a whole bunch of taxes. Next week it is Milk prices going up by Rs 260. Im sure even you will agree that this cant go on indefinitely. How on earth is the JVP going to support a candidate like this - even if they wanted to?

This sounds to me that these things are carried to appease Mahinda's helpers but Mahinda alone is not sure what is best for the country.


I couldnt have said this better! :) This has ALWAYS been the problem with MR. He never had policies or vision. For NEAR-TERM conveniance he will sleep with anyone and everyone. PR, a Charming smile and a Red towel will take you only so much. Everntually you have to have face hard realities... thats when MR burns his behind.

Edited By - anizam - 11 Sep 2007 21:24:51 GMT
vimukth
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12 Sep 2007 02:57:39 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Re- Some of the comments made by the learned members of this forum that MR Could not have won without JVP support IF you read the results in UNP website and compare the percentage of the JVP votes in the Electorates where the JVP has the Strongest Support viz MATARA/HAMBANTOTA Districts, the time their own candidate contested for the Presidency, we can get somewhat a true picture, viz percetages of the Support JVP commands, I understand NOW that it has further deteriorated, and in toto they will have around 6% support now Compare the Percetage Votes recd by each in 2005 with the JVP support at their Peak.(Refer UNP W/site)

MR Ranil JVP

Hakmana 63 % 35 % 7%
Devinuwara 63 35 9
Deniyaya 56 42 7
Kamburupitiya 65 34 6
Weligama 62 37 7
Akuressa 61 37 7
Matara 62 37 6
Beliatta 65 34 12
Mulkirigala 62 36 12
Tissa 60 38 13
Tangalle 66 32 16

Conclusion: Even without JVP support MR would have still won. Because of JVP MR lost the Supprt of CBK etc etc
anizam
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12 Sep 2007 03:35:19 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Can you please tell me which election results are these?
j2k6
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12 Sep 2007 05:19:46 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Can someone kill this ranil ponaya already.
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12 Sep 2007 07:04:11 GMT  Report for Abuse   
In slankan political arena, there is no place for good, soft, visionary leaders like JRJ, Ranil, DBW, etc. Slankans like to live under overpowering, intimidating,opportunistic, visionless, mafia type leaders who could spin a yarn and feed them with high doses of empty rhetoric. Sirima did that, CBk did that, premadasa did that and now MR is doing that. Each time they come to power the country goes down by 20 years. However, Premadasa had a vision for rural areas and masses. Most of the programmes he implmented were for the good of ordinary people while messing up the middle class.

MR is trying to copy Premadasa. But he is a failure. By the end of MR's term, Slanka would be like somalia and sudan well and truely.

The US$500m bond comes at 17.5% interest!! we could have earned that under a UNP government. What a crime!!

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12 Sep 2007 07:51:37 GMT  Report for Abuse   
He must know better
RW was defeated at the polls by MR
Any reason why he saying so?
Shows RW is getting demented
raigamakolla
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12 Sep 2007 11:02:55 GMT  Report for Abuse   
If Hambantota is the poorest of poor in Slanka, it is because of MR and his family. I am sure, his family is the richest in Hambantota. Now MR and Mafia gang is the richest in entire south asia. Wow! What an acheivment within a year for a commoner like MR.
vimukth
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12 Sep 2007 14:24:56 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Member Anizam- As I said these are the 2005 P/Election result of MR & RW, compared with %ge JVP got when Nandana contested with CBK....Source - UNP w/site.Thanks
anizam
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12 Sep 2007 14:38:49 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Member Anizam- As I said these are the 2005 P/Election result of MR & RW, compared with %ge JVP got when Nandana contested with CBK....Source - UNP w/site.Thanks


Thanks for the clarification. I did not reconginize these results.

Nandana contested in 1995 - that is 12 years ago. There have been several NATIONAL elections (General and Presidential) since then. So it would be more accurate if you consider the more recent results.

Also - the link on the UNP website is to a Website called - Srilankanelections.com. That site is not run by the UNP. Its run by the Upali Group (Island)..

cheers :) :)
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12 Sep 2007 18:35:04 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Member Anizam, Thanks Nandana contested with CBK in 1999, the results of this Election is also available with % ge polled, under 'Final result' , this was the most recent Election JVP went for a straight fight contesting along with UNP & SLFP.(except the local Govt polls after P/Elections). The JVPs Vote base is clearly seen in this 1999 result in all electorates.'Anizam, my thinking if JVP contests on their own at the next Election, they will not get a single seat if First /Past post OR 2or 3 On Propotional Repn., they will be another'Also Ran' like the earlier LSSP or CP.............Tks..Rgds
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