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Holmes factually correct - UN
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Nine9
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  16 Aug 2007 02:26:23 GMT  Report for Abuse   
What would you have done IF you were given the chance?

I don't think it as the right thing to do, to give into power's illusions, as a Sri Lankan I will use my next vote to eliminate their chances getting into Parliament.
whatreallyhap
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  16 Aug 2007 02:27:39 GMT  Report for Abuse   
inadequateness toward human rights and civil rights.


GoSL dose not know the meaning of these words much less practice it. Its the only country in the world today where the government behaves worse than the rebels.
As far as the GoSL is concerned the killing of its own civilian citizens (Tamils) is not a crime, so is killing of anyone who helps them.
They so proudly say the enemy's friend is my enemy.
Since the aid workers were helping the Tamils who do you think killed them?
Nine9
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  16 Aug 2007 02:32:43 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Could you please point out a way to trace out only terrorists!

As we both know it is very hard thing to spare innocent civilians when there is a war going on.

I am not justifying government here, but we should understand the hardness and abuses when it comes to terror related war.
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  16 Aug 2007 02:42:19 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Even though calling him a terrorist may sound bit undiplomatic, I appreciate Jeyaraj's courage to say something like that. This is the only way to curb the confined mentality of Sri Lankans. Not many countries in the world are concerned about International Community, UN etc as we do. Not many countries let the IC to govern their foreign policy etc as we do. Not only that. People in most other countries would never let their sovereignty to be threatened in return for some foreign aid.

This may hopefully annoy those local broadminded internationalists, calling this a foreign policy disaster. However, if some like Eric Solheim could eventually end up paying liquor bills of Anton Balasingham and donating LCD TVs and hi-tech communication gear to Prabhakaran (not to remind millions of Crones he credited to LTTE accounts), calling someone like John Holmes a terrorist could not be something completely unfounded.

-Muchalinda

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AnuD
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  16 Aug 2007 02:42:43 GMT  Report for Abuse   
IF you read the news reports came from pro - LTTE new reporters for the last year or so,

All the LTTE cadres that dying are Leutinents or Colonels and no one else.

All others dieing are Tamil Civilians.

Why is that ?.

I think, they give uniforms only to senior cadres. So they have ranks. but they are self - styled. In other words, they work their own way. They are not disciplined.
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  16 Aug 2007 02:47:58 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Not many countries in the world are concerned about International Community, UN etc as we do. Not many countries let the IC to govern their foreign policy etc as we do


Not many countries go around with the begging bowl either - BEGGARS CANNOT BE CHOOSERS.
Foster
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  16 Aug 2007 02:50:50 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Someone here few weeks ago wrote 'All LTTE has to do is to leave a long enough rope by the roadside and GoSL will hang itself' (I may add -or one of the hundreds of ministers will do the honours)

GoSL is out of vision, out of money, out of control and and out at its wits end. MR plays the war drums tape (keep the repeat button pressed) and is in sleep. This strategy can not win.


Edited By - Foster - 16 Aug 2007 06:45:30 GMT
whatreallyhap
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  16 Aug 2007 02:51:14 GMT  Report for Abuse   
All others dieing are Tamil Civilians.


When you shoot and murder civilians they die. If you dare abduct LTTE brass i suppose they fight back.
It is definately easy to kill civilians and claim they are LTTE and also kill AID workers and blame the LTTE.
Unfortunately the plan backfired.
So now blame the UN of taking bribes from LTTE.
Good move.Keep doing it. No one will notice it.
whatreallyhap
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  16 Aug 2007 02:57:38 GMT  Report for Abuse   
GoSL is out of vision, out of money, out of control and and out at its wits end. All MR does is to keep the play the war drums tape (press the repeat button) and go to sleep. This strategy can not win.


You left out one very important thing........PUNNAKKU for the southern masses. As long as he can provide their daily dose the people down south will be happy even when the economy is crumbling and the COL is sky rocketing and the rupee gets devalued day by day but the minister says SL is having a double digit economic groth.( One of the highest in asia ) if I am not mistaken.
Goodfinger
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  16 Aug 2007 03:03:16 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Even though calling him a terrorist may sound bit undiplomatic, I appreciate Jeyaraj's courage to say something like that. This is the only way to curb the confined mentality of Sri Lankans. Not many countries in the world are concerned about International Community, UN etc as we do. Not many countries let the IC to govern their foreign policy etc as we do. Not only that. People in most other countries would never let their sovereignty to be threatened in return for some foreign aid.


I'm sorry but exactly what did Holmes do that was wrong? He expressed concerns over the safety of humanitarian workers in Sri Lanka, something that is warranted given the number of aid workers that have been killed in the country over the last 20 or so months. He did NOT say that the Sri Lankan government were killing them, or even that the LTTE was doing it. I don't think he cares WHO does it, the point is that it shouldn't happen. Regardless of what Rambukwella says, there were many many deaths and disappearances of aid workers in Sri Lanka. My information strongly suggests that the number 34 thrown around is a much lower figure than the truth.

This may hopefully annoy those local broadminded internationalists, calling this a foreign policy disaster. However, if some like Eric Solheim could eventually end up paying liquor bills of Anton Balasingham and donating LCD TVs and hi-tech communication gear to Prabhakaran (not to remind millions of Crones he credited to LTTE accounts), calling someone like John Holmes a terrorist could not be something completely unfounded.


Hmmm....now let's see if I understand you correctly:

If Solheim, a diplomat attached to Norway, stands accused of handing money, guns, drugs or hookers to terrorists, then it is 'not completely unfounded' to call Holmes, an under secretary-general of the UN and a former diplomat from the UK a terrorist for being worried about aid workers being murdered?

By that logic, and try to follow this, then because the US supported bin Laden in the 1980's and he then attacked the US in 2001, Ban Ki Moon is a terrorist for sitting in the same room as Khalizad in the UN Security Council?

Now, given that there are allegations about senior Sri Lankan politicians handing funds to the LTTE recently - would you also consider them terrorists based on these allegations?

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