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Holmes factually correct - UN
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SenaM Senior Member
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17 Aug 2007 18:09:49 GMT Report for Abuse
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Edited .. Edited By - SenaM - 17 Aug 2007 20:28:50 GMT |
SenaM Senior Member
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17 Aug 2007 21:01:58 GMT Report for Abuse
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Goodfinger
I remain convinced killing of the 'aid-workers' was not accidental .. some-thing that happened in the 'heat of battle'. Rather .. it was deliberate, intended to carry the message to ACF 'Not welcome in Mutur' .. Do'nt come back'.
As indicated earlier, it is possible ACF failed to deal 'honestly' in the post-Tsunami re- construction/re- habilitation program. They may have been 'partial' to Tamil folk, and ignored the plight of Muslims .. and earned the latter's wrath, there-by.
There is also the other possibility .. ACF may have acted impartially, helping in the re- habilitation of displaced Muslims generously .. there-by earning the dis-pleasure of the LTTE. (They 'drove' the Muslims out of the North, and have said more than once 'Northern and Eastern provinces are Tamil 'homelands' .. others should leave').
All the aid-workers killed were Tamil .. but any number of Tamils have been killed as 'traitors', so that is no 'big' issue for the LTTE. If this NGO was helping needy Muslims .. that information would have been available to the near-by LTTE chief. (Incidentally, all aid-workers of ACF did'nt die in this atrocity .. some were'nt there, for various reasons. There is a good possibility, one or more of them knows more than he/she was prepared to tell the investigators .. there could have been a LTTE 'mole' at the ACF office in Mutur) .
Battle for Mutur was fiercely contested. LTTE attacked, and briefly held Mutur, before SLA/SLN forces counter-attacked and re-captured the town. There was time enough for a few LTTE men from the main attack force to take the time to march in to the ACF office .. administer 'their kind of justice' to those whom they saw as 'traitors', and leave .. before the arrival of GOSL forces.
This is the other possibility that 'surfaces', if one holds to the belief (theory, if you like) .. 'It was not an accidental killing .. it was 'deliberate''.
Edited By - SenaM - 17 Aug 2007 21:16:53 GMT |
saliya
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17 Aug 2007 23:09:52 GMT Report for Abuse
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| 'Horage Ammagen pena ahuva wage wadak'. UN Secretary General will not accept any allegation against his senior official. I think Jeyaraj Fernandupulle should not have used such strong words to criticise Homes. |
Goodfinger
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18 Aug 2007 00:43:25 GMT Report for Abuse
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This is the other possibility that 'surfaces', if one holds to the belief (theory, if you like) .. 'It was not an accidental killing .. it was 'deliberate''.
In all fairness Sena, if you are to list all possibilities - aren't you forgetting the possibility that the ACF staff were killed by SLA/SLN forces? Or is that not a possibility? What's your agenda? Mine is to find out the truth, and I think that the current investigation conducted by the authorities will identify the killers. From what I gather from your writings, your agenda seems to be to sell off the idea that anyone but SLA/SLN has done this.
Edited By - Goodfinger - 18 Aug 2007 00:45:38 GMT |
Damed
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18 Aug 2007 00:48:46 GMT Report for Abuse
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SenaM,Well said,Strongly warded.
More the UN cry,more the ACF getting cornered.
As you said more evidence with ACF staff and Muslims from the area.
NGO's UN have LTTE mole's yes, they are partial, and traitors to some, exactly true in your words SenaM.
Most delicate issue is when this happened ? not why it happened.
Muttur was very heated and change hands so fast which is difficult to explain to these warring parties.
But very clearly Sri lanka is not a easy go for INGO's.
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SenaM Senior Member
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18 Aug 2007 04:54:05 GMT Report for Abuse
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Goodfinger
aren't you forgetting the possibility that the ACF staff were killed by SLA/SLN forces? Or is that not a possibility?
In the context of an 'outcry' from a LTTE driven program to place a 'black-mark' on the Govt and GOSL forces, I thought it fit to bring out the other possibilities .. which do not seem to have been considered (or 'aired').
You will remember how the Norwegians .. supposed to 'hold the balance, equally', and 'help' in the PEACE effort .. went 'public' on this issue, and did their best to embarass the SL President when he was on a visit to UK, some-time ago. LTTE has been 'beating the drum' on this issue .. trying to get whatever 'mile-age' possible to dis-credit GOSL and its forces over this incident. So, it is good to see people like you admitting - yes, there are other possibilities too .. and this needs to be properly investigated, before we can say 'who was responsible.
If we take 'Motive' as important .. and see this heinous act as 'deliberate' (and not 'accidental') .. I would place GOSL forces involvement, as least likely. The other two parties (mentioned earlier), would qualify for placings 1 and 2 - as more likely. For reasons - a) GOSL forces are more disciplined - b) They have no motive .. unlike the other two parties.
Edited By - SenaM - 18 Aug 2007 05:03:50 GMT |
samanj Senior Member
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18 Aug 2007 06:11:37 GMT Report for Abuse
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Holmes factually correct
BUT
Actually wrong........ |
Goodfinger
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19 Aug 2007 03:07:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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From http://www.nation.lk/2007/08/19/militarym.htm
The Presidential Commission has now been informed that Army Commandos were in and around the area during the time interval that doctors have determined to be the time when the killings took place. This is a revelation compared with the original position?maintained by some members of the government?that the LTTE was responsible for the cold-blooded killings.
Interestingly enough, it seems that those in charge of the investigations have still not questioned these suspects. Cover up?
I still maintain that your angry Muslim theory lacks all evidence - although I must admit you are very persistent. You should provide some data about the percentage of Muslims assisted by ACF in Muttur.
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SenaM Senior Member
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19 Aug 2007 06:12:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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Goodfinger
.. that Army Commandos were in and around the area during the time interval that doctors have determined to be the time when the killings took place ..
That is an interesting 'bit' of information
It can be 'read' as .. the Army Commandos were 'pursuing' a band of LTTE .. in that general direction. (And that can be 'interpreted' in various ways). Anyway, it is a 'lead' which should be followed- up .. in the interests of finding 'what really happened'.
(Do you have information to the effect, they had 'gone' into the ACF office ? Also possible .. by the time they arrived, the LTTE had had 'done the deed' and gone-on.
Incidentally .. who had found the bodies of the slain aid-workers, and first brought it to the notice of SL authorities ?)
As regards the 'moneys' spent by ACF on the rehabilitation of Muslim fmilies, I was expecting you to come up with that. After all, it was your 'observation' that the ACF had been assisting Muslim families in Mutur for over an year. Suggest you produce that information .. the quantum of ACF assistance to Muslims in Mutur.
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