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Holmes factually correct - UN
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nirupam
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  16 Aug 2007 21:34:12 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Foreign Minister of the terrorist govt, himself declared that UN envoy John Homes is not a terrorist after all, what a relief to the entire world!
FM contradicts Jeyaraj: ?Holmes not a terrorist?
Foreign Minister Rohitha Bogollagama yesterday said UN Humanitarian Affairs Chief John Holmes was not a terrorist and insisted that the alleged statement made by Minister Jeyaraj Fernandopulle to the contrary might have been his personal view and not the stand of the government.
Goodfinger
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  16 Aug 2007 22:54:34 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Sena,

Again you show your lack of basic reading skills. Peters article talk about how Sinhalese villagers in Trinco were irritated wiht aid agencies, and that is very different from your 'muslims in Muttur were so angry withthe people that had helped them for over a year so they got together a group of thugs and murdered them'.

If anything, the article could be an indication (albeit weak) that someone Sinhalese could have had a motive.

As for Karuna, there have been no reports of TMVP cadres being left in Muttur at the time.

But I get your view - the Army can't have done this, so anyone else must have. Maybe Elvis Presley did it?
SenaM
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  16 Aug 2007 23:55:28 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Goodfinger
Maybe Elvis Presley did it?

Elvis has never been in those parts .. you'd make a better candidate, as far as that goes. After all you were 'making out' that you have been visiting Mutur .. have an intimate knowledge of the area etc .. have'nt you ?

I read fairly well .. but I have some-thing more than you have in 'some areas' ('inside' knowledge .. call it 'insight' if you like). I know the Army, and the other armed Services much better than you do.

Like-wise, I believe you 'score' over me in another area .. You know NGOs better, especially Christian NGOs .. and you believe they can do no wrong. (What you were doing over the past few hours was trying to do your best to keep the ACF 'escutcheon' bright and shiny .. the Swedish lady Manager of ACF at Mutur was in 'no way' to blame .. she helped them all, Tamils and Muslims alike (although .. yes, having only Tamils to tend to in an area where there were more Muslims than Tamils was a little strange .. but, there will be good reasons for that .. etc etc). Congratulations .. you have been a good advocate for ACF.

Damed
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  17 Aug 2007 00:03:21 GMT  Report for Abuse   
SenaM,Godfinger, guys gone long way last night.
Very clearly shows the ground situation in Muttur and LTTE interests had made this tragedy.
Evidence shows Muslim anger to wards ACF activities.
Main reason is Nordic involvements in multi ethnic town propagating LTTE support.
Al ready GOSL UN or other interested party's clearly know the reason with evidence to prove the cause.
GOSL has taken measures to minimize favorable action to wards a single community by UN or any NGOs in East.
There engagements are to be through Military channels this is giving trouble to some humanitarian workers as they been fed to LTTE tragedy's.
Goodfinger
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  17 Aug 2007 02:39:58 GMT  Report for Abuse   
I read fairly well ..


Ok, then it must the comprehending what you read that is wrong...

but I have some-thing more than you have in 'some areas' ('inside' knowledge .. call it 'insight' if you like). I know the Army, and the other armed Services much better than you do.


I wouldn't bet on it.

Like-wise, I believe you 'score' over me in another area .. You know NGOs better, especially Christian NGOs .. and you believe they can do no wrong.


As a Muslim, I've had much more contact with Muslim charities, I can assure you.

(What you were doing over the past few hours was trying to do your best to keep the ACF 'escutcheon' bright and shiny ..


Or rather - tried to debunk an attempt to spread lies. ACF no doubt made some pretty bad choices in Muttur.

the Swedish lady Manager of ACF at Mutur was in 'no way' to blame .. she helped them all, Tamils and Muslims alike (although .. yes, having only Tamils to tend to in an area where there were more Muslims than Tamils was a little strange .. but, there will be good reasons for that .. etc etc). Congratulations .. you have been a good advocate for ACF.


If this mystery Swedish lady had existed, I would have commented on this. Why don't you go to the Immigation office in Borella - see if ACF had any Nordic employees at the time. It is a matter of public record.

Goodfinger
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  17 Aug 2007 02:45:49 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Evidence shows Muslim anger to wards ACF activities.


Please source that - sofar the only 'evidence' is Senas weird and unsupported theory.
Damed
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  17 Aug 2007 03:04:32 GMT  Report for Abuse   
ACF has taken muttur incident seriously and changing there ground formulas.
Sad some who, comments to visit muttur did no feed from Muslims or simply line to a pre status.
Most NGO's going through a transition(staff) to new format or close/curtail activities in Sri lanka.
A main reason karuna, identifying LTTE cells in UN/NGO's groups itching there(Free) way to East.
Why Only disarm Karuna ?
Why not other Terror outfit ?
a intelligent first grader will answer.

Edited By - Damed - 17 Aug 2007 03:20:04 GMT
Goodfinger
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  17 Aug 2007 04:35:55 GMT  Report for Abuse   
a intelligent first grader will answer.


I'm no intelligent first grader, but could you re-write that post so it is understandable? I'd love to comment on it, but the language it is written in is too ambiguous - there are too many alternative interpretations of what you write. No offense meant.
Damed
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  17 Aug 2007 06:07:41 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Godfinger,
you have replyes with you most.yes.
ground situations have changed and principals of most INGO s
are watching there staff at this time.
There are boundaries to questions and answers as well,humanitarian aid is not to accumulate human tragedy's.
some examples are relayed well over to country's supporting UN humanitarian agencyes.
GOSL did and doing a remarkable piece of information exchanges with Aid donors and its paying off.
muttur is a eye opener,sad for the life lost but when sleep with dogs ? that, has happened.
its happening to !
LankanWay
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  17 Aug 2007 18:06:06 GMT  Report for Abuse   
* Assassin of Sri Lanka Red Cross volunteers traced

Aug 17, Colombo: Sri Lanka Minister of Disaster Management and Human Rights Mahinda Samarasinghe says that the police have traced the person responsible for the killing of two Sri Lanka Red Cross volunteers.

The person has been identified as Sivakanthan Vivekanandan of Batticaloa. Police has offered Rs. one million for the information to arrest the suspect. A poster depicting his photo and details will soon be displayed all over the country, said the Minister.

The bodies of the two Red Cross volunteers were recovered from Kiriella in the Ratnapura district on June 03.

The victims, S. Shanmugan (32) and K. Chandramohan (28), residents of the Batticaloa district, were abducted at Colombo Fort railway station while they were returning to Batticaloa after participating in a seminar in Colombo. Their bodies were found next day.
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