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Holmes factually correct - UN
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Dewey Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 13:50:49 GMT Report for Abuse
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Those who have not sinned cast the first stone!
Were you into stone casting as well? |
Dewey Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 13:55:56 GMT Report for Abuse
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AGP:
The training-camp rules were rigid: The LTTE prohibits alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. ?Unlawful sex? - anything ranging from masturbation to romantic relationships - is banned. Velupillai Prabhakaran, the cultlike founder of the LTTE, executed two of his closest aides after they were caught having intercourse. Marriage was initially outlawed by Prabhakaran, now 53 - until he fell in love with a female prisoner, an agricultural student kidnapped by his guerrillas. The rules were subsequently altered to allow senior cadres to wed.
Didnt know that Velu's wife was an ex conscript.
LTTE supporters are having fun in the west visiting couger bars etc while innocent kids sent to kill themselves. Ironic!
I think this woman's life is in danger even if she is allowed to go back. What's the point in holding her lastname while showing her picture?
Edited By - Dewey - 16 Aug 2007 13:59:15 GMT |
nirupam Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 13:56:16 GMT Report for Abuse
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you fool always repeat the same story on 15 aid workers killed
Why does the truth hurt the terrorist supporters of the terrorist army. The news about the massacre by the SLA is repeated because still the president has not found the killers or pretend he hasn't. Who else would committe such a hienaous crime in the world? Why has the govt dalayed finding the culprits so long unless it wants to hide the killers identity.
Killing civilians in a bus, school, house, school or church is indefensible and abhorant. DPU was well known, for its clandestine crimes such as booby traps and claymore mines though the army and military intelligence denied until the police raid to expose them. DPU would have set mines and the bus with 61 civilians would have run over and got bombed. Unless the govt stop getting involved in illegal activities no one knows who commit these horrors. |
Dewey Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 14:00:43 GMT Report for Abuse
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Nirupam:
Are you scared of DPU? Scared of your own medicine eh! |
nirupam Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 14:42:11 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dewey,
Are you scared of DPU?
Only civilians are scared as those 61 victims in that bus and 61 in the tractor in Batticaloa.
Edited By - nirupam - 16 Aug 2007 14:48:14 GMT |
SenaM Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 14:59:24 GMT Report for Abuse
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I think it would be wiser to concentrate on who had opportunity and motive.
That is what I have been talking abut all along .. Who had the motive ?
By your own admission .. with the many Muslims in Mutur, they would have had a 'core' of armed men ready to defend their people. (They have gone thro' harrowing tmes under the LTTE).
If what I have indicated is 'plausible' then it must have occurred to other people too. You may choose to 'defend' the LTTE, and try to denigrate Govt forces - for reasons best known to you (and I am not interested what they are). But you are 'nothing' as far as I am concerned .. to sit in judgement over this incident. Frankly, you know no better than I do .. all I have indicated is a likely/possible scenario, which ought to be considered and investigated.
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Goodfinger
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16 Aug 2007 16:13:40 GMT Report for Abuse
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By your own admission .. with the many Muslims in Mutur, they would have had a 'core' of armed men ready to defend their people. (They have gone thro' harrowing tmes under the LTTE).
Hrmmm.....I have stated that the majority of Muttur residents are Muslim. That is quite different from claiming that there must have been a 'core of armed men ready to defend their people'....especially when the people you claim they killed are the same that had spent over a year within their community, assisting them.
If what I have indicated is 'plausible' then it must have occurred to other people too.
Wel,, as I stated, it is not plausible. And maybe the best evidence of that is that only you have come up with this ridiculous idea.
You may choose to 'defend' the LTTE, and try to denigrate Govt forces - for reasons best known to you (and I am not interested what they are).
Well....I am the one claiming that we will see once the facts are made public. I have no reasons to claim that the LTTE did it, nor that the SLA did. Do you?
Frankly, you know no better than I do ..
I am sure I do.
all I have indicated is a likely/possible scenario, which ought to be considered and investigated.
Your 'scenario' is far from likely. It IS possible, but it is much more likely that this crime was committed by one of the major combatant sides in this conflict. You trying to push the blame on the peaceful Muslim community of Muttur is ridiculous and time will tell if you are assisting the LTTE or unwanted elements within your own community by doing so.
And you still need to learn how to read. |
Nightfox78 Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 17:07:43 GMT Report for Abuse
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SenaM and Goodfinger..
Heres an article that might be of interest..
Aid worker massacre remains unsolved
Blogged by: Peter Apps
..''It seems a mixture of bad luck and poor judgement that left the group pinned down in the northeastern town of Muttur on the edge of Trincomalee harbour just as the first ground fighting since a 2002 ceasefire broke out.
Other aid groups were steering clear of the town after recent violence. With hindsight, the mainly ethnically Tamil team - who had carried out considerable amounts of their work in rebel Tamil Tiger areas until fighting made it impossible - stood out in the mainly Muslim town held by security forces from the majority Sinhalese community.
Aid agencies in the Trincomalee area had long been accused of bias in favour of the Tamil community and of sympathies with the rebels. At the same time as the ACF team were killed, Sinhalese mobs were attacking aid vehicles. Some aid workers privately admitted that all the attention given to coastal Tamil communities in rebel territory after the tsunami had alienated inland Sinhalese villagers. There was a perception that aid agencies had hired predominantly Tamil staff and taken less notice of the sensibilities of other ethnic groups.
The ACF team were trapped in the town after a naval battle in the harbour forced the suspension of the ferry and the road south was cut by fighting. They could have escaped when Muttur's fled on foot through the shellfire on August 4, but either chose or were told to stay in their compound as the Tigers withdrew from the town.
It left them fatally exposed. The evidence suggests they were massacred the same day.
As I have recounted many times to those who ask, I landed in the town the next day with a media tour organised by the military, keen to show it was back in their hands despite the ongoing clashes in the suburbs. I did not know that the ACF team was missing, but I did push the local military commanders on the ground for details of civilian casualties. They never mentioned the massacre - but they were clear in saying that the rebels had withdrawn the previous day.''
http://www.alertnet.org/db/blogs/36072/2007/07/3-161605-1.htm
Edited By - Nightfox78 - 16 Aug 2007 17:08:42 GMT |
SenaM Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 19:41:06 GMT Report for Abuse
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Thank you 'Nightfox78'
Peter Apps 'Notes' are corroborative of the possibilities, I have brought-out.
There would have been armed Muslim groups prowling .. some of them may have been working with a 'link-up/liaison' with the Army .. others probably 'very much on their own'. They would all have had access to arms-aid (rifles & ammo) from SLA or SLN .. after all they all had the 'shared' aim of defeating the LTTE, in that area.
Then Karuna, and his men would also have been there .. 'Goodfinger' was probably hinting they may have done it. Entirely possible. (Just do'nt know why 'Goodfinger' could not have been more 'blunt' .. come-out with it 'openly', if he thought so).
Edited By - SenaM - 16 Aug 2007 19:44:20 GMT |
nirupam Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 21:22:30 GMT Report for Abuse
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At last Sinhala Buddhist FM declared that UN envoy John Homes is not a terrorist. What a relief to the world, it is as if Buddha himself made an appearance and enlightened the world
FM contradicts Jeyaraj: ?Holmes not a terrorist?
Foreign Minister Rohitha Bogollagama yesterday said UN Humanitarian Affairs Chief John Holmes was not a terrorist and insisted that the alleged statement made by Minister Jeyaraj Fernandopulle to the contrary might have been his personal view and not the stand of the government. |
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