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samadi Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 10:32:33 GMT Report for Abuse
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Berty,
what you say is not true, I have visited your page and commented positively several times,..
but when i do not agree with you I write otherwise..
I have my own mind to think, I do not hide behind friends..
pls remove the glasses you wear and look at me..
You can leave a post to me here..
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Goodfinger
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16 Aug 2007 10:37:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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Sena, I did do some browsing, and here is one of you theories...
When a band of LTTE fighters found this office of the 'Freedom From Hunger' NGO on the morning of the 4th August- they would have gone inside to find who was there, and kill them. Their instructions were to drive away the Muslims, and here was a foreign funded Aid Group, actually trying to help Muslims to remain, and establish themselves -after the havoc created by the Tsunami. These young LTTE thugs would not have known of the results, wider repercussions arising from such killings (adverse publicity to the LTTE). Un-schooled thugs, who do not understand anything beyond what they are told by their LTTE trainers .. they would have summarily killed the aid workers - with a single bullet to their heads. That is their style of killing ..
Coupled with your alternative (now more likely in your mind?) theory - that the ACF staff were killed by disgruntled Muslims who were angry over perceived inequality in aid distribution (which you've dreamed up), it doesn't really make sense.
Were they killed by the LTTE band because they were helping Muslims or were they killed by a gang of bloodthirty, vengeful Muslims because they were NOT helping Muslims?
Or - and I introduce this theory only to over all scenarios - were they killed by a unit of SLA/SLN, who might have been looking for LTTE cadres and came across a group of tamil young men and women - thus fitting the image of the 'usual suspects'? I know that you've totally ruled out this possibility for uncertain reasons, but I think it has enough credibility to remain a possible answer to the Muttur mystery.
Edited By - Goodfinger - 16 Aug 2007 10:40:32 GMT |
Sinthaka Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 10:38:48 GMT Report for Abuse
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I am certainly not new to criminal investigations.
The you can help catch the biggest criminal of all time, hiding in a 6 foot deep bunker in kilinochchi.
Goodfinger,
The muttur aid worker massacre is indeed a tragedy, and who ever did that must be brought to justice. There is no question on that.
However, what is pitiful is how the big talking INGO sahibs with big fat pay checks conveniently avoid the massacres done by velu, and give prominence only to those that appear to be done by other parties. This will only help strengthen the terrorist who has absolutely no regard for innocent civilians to kill more. The symbiosis between the INGO's and Velu is visible to the general public. That's why the public looks at INGO's with suspicion.
The more Velu kills, the more peace merchants we will have buzzing around like vultures with big fat pay checks. The more these INGO's cover up, the more Velu will kill. So let's make a carrier out of peace, and sell it to the world......who cares if innocent people die in the hands of a maniac.
Edited By - Sinthaka - 16 Aug 2007 10:40:26 GMT |
SenaM Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 10:41:38 GMT Report for Abuse
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Conspiracy theory ?
I did not say any-where that the NGO - ACF conspired with the LTTE. What I said was that the LTTE would have 'dictated' to them .. whom to help, and whom 'not to'.
There were Muslims in the Mutur area, and any number of them would have been 'de-housed' after the Tsunami. You may be willing to believe the LTTE are 'democrats' .. they want the Muslims resuscitated, and their former habitats restored to them by international aid agencies etc.
Where were you all this time ? In some other 'world' ? Are you coming from Mars ? Did'nt you hear how Muslims resident in the North were 'driven out' of their homes .. with just a 24-hour notice ? Or, the Kachchankudi massacre, while those Muslims were at prayer ?
I can well believe the local LTTE Chief telling the ACF aid-workers (believe they were all Tamils), not to try to 're- house' displaced Muslims .. that they be left to fend for themselves. If you go into the records, you'd be able to find out all (or most) of the aid-money spent by that NGO 'went on' aid-programs for Tamil folk .. LTTE would have seen to that.
The French NGO, ACF would have wanted to assist 'all' destitute/affected people .. but they would have had no choice in the matter .. they would have had to do as the local LTTE administration wanted them to act. (They are realists .. if their aid was going to destitute people, they would have been happy .. But there were 'un-happy' people, not receiving aid .. they were the Muslims of that area).
Edited By - SenaM - 16 Aug 2007 10:50:09 GMT |
strategist Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 10:50:01 GMT Report for Abuse
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SAf bombed the other day now Mig helicopters bomb Vavuniya. What's up?
Why TAF not responding? What's the strategy?
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=23017 |
Aani Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 10:54:19 GMT Report for Abuse
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pita kahanne
Damayanthi/ Sweet lady or someone:
Please explain the meaning. |
Sweetlady Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 10:57:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hi Aani anna
pita kahanne
This was something that Damayanthi has told me, why are you getting into some curiosity? :):)):)))
Edited By - Sweetlady - 16 Aug 2007 10:57:32 GMT |
Goodfinger
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16 Aug 2007 10:59:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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I did not say any-where that that the NGO - ACF conspired with the LTTE. What I said was that . the LTTE would have 'dictated' to them .. whom to help, and whom 'not to'.
Hey - a conspiracy theory doesn't HAVE to include the LTTE :-)
Where were you all this time ? In some other 'world' ? Are you coming from Mars ? Did'nt you hear how Muslims resident in the North were 'driven out' of their homes .. with just a 24-hour notice ? Or, the Kachchankudi massacre, while those Muslims were at prayer?
Believe me, I am very, very aware of how the LTTE has treated Muslims. I just don't see how that is a valid argument in the case of the Muttur killings
I can well believe the local LTTE Chief telling the ACF aid-workers (believe they were all Tamils), not to try to 're- house' displaced Muslims .. that they be left to fend for themselves.
And this would be the LTTE Chief in the government controlled Muttur? A Muttur that is predominantly inhabited by Muslims? I think you have no facts to back up your theories - otherwise please tell me the percentage of Muslim to Tamil beneficiaries in the ACF programmes in Muttur....
Another of your theories:
My re-construction of events at the Mutur NGO office are -
When the LTTE band got into the NGO office, they found the Swedish lady. She would have been questioned - and the LTTE leader found all he needed to know, as to what she and her co-workers were doing there. I believe, she was told to leave, take her vehicle and 'get out' then the others would have been summarily executed.
No facts. Pure speculation. Sena.
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SenaM Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 11:05:16 GMT Report for Abuse
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Why TAF not responding? What's the strategy?
TAF is just an 'image' floated by Velu (or some-one close to him), to 'catch the imagination' of his 'adoring' public the diaspora, mainly. (I am not totally sure this is correct .. but there are plenty of them in this column).
In reality, the TAF is feeble, and has limited 'options'. there is a possibility, as with other formations .. they will revert to 'suicidal' tactics at some stage. (Possibly, when they are really 'pushed to the wall' .. may not be 'far away').
No idea what's going-on in the Vanni area. If SLA cannot move their heavy equipment (like tanks), it makes sense to maintain an aerial bombardment .. comes under 'attrition of the enemy's force strength, and logistics base'.
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Aani Senior Member
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16 Aug 2007 11:10:41 GMT Report for Abuse
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Sweet lady Thangachchi
I am trying to improve my Sinhala |
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