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Deportation: 29 Lankan Tamils on hunger strike in London
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TNTamil
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  23 Jul 2007 06:54:15 GMT  Report for Abuse   
TNTamil,

You are quoting foreign countries here which have no relevance. 18% of population cannot demand a separate state from a 73% majority population, even through a referendum.


Can you establish why the Haiti/Dominican Republic situation has no relevenace in Sri Lanka?

You want more proof, look at Korea. They were a united country for long before the south and north fell under the influcence of foreign powers and in the post WWII scenario became 2 countries instead of 1. Ideally, Korea should have been 1 and SL should have been 2 post WWII, but that didn't happen.

What is the basis for your assertion that 18% of the population cannot seek a separate country? 18% cannot obviously want to expel the 73% from their traditional homelands, but they are certainly within their rights to want to live under their own rule in their tradional (North East) homelands.

Besides, there is no evidence of a historical Tamil civilization to support eelam claim.


There were pre-existing country like formations (kingdoms) founded by Tamils on the Island before the colonial powers ruled the Island. Isn't that enough proof for them to be living in their traditional homelands once the colonial powers left?

Anyway, going back to the topic, anybody in Sri Lanka knows that a Sri Lankan Tamil living in Colombo genuinely wants the war to end, and do not care whether Eelam is achieved or not as long as they are economically comfortable. However, the overseas Tamil want to keep the war going, even if it means funding terrorism, as they see it as a ticket to win PR, and claim 'refugee status'. Some overseas Tamils also have learned to make a living out was through credit card scams, sham NGO's ect....BUT, do they realize that their terror funds to VP are killing their own flesh and blood in SL?


That's not correct. Every community values economic growth but still cherishes freedom. If economic growth was the only criertia, every country should be aspiring to be an American protectorate.
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  23 Jul 2007 07:03:10 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Nah... :)
let's keep on killing LTTE... :)
they're at an all time low so might as well make use of it :)
Drop the separate state demand, disarm or be annihilated :)

i'm off...have fun :)

TNT...nice chatting to you mate...catch ya later...work calls :)
TNTamil
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  23 Jul 2007 07:06:40 GMT  Report for Abuse   
TNT,

So Do you think tht the most of Tamil nationals Lives in North and East.. as far as i know.. Most of them Lives in south with other nationals.. Crying for a Real Estate isn't answering anybody s grievances. I've Tamil friends who doesn't want to rule them by bunch of Criminals who made their Bunkers out of Rice Sacks and guarded them by Child Soldiers. by the way Are you from SL?


I am not aware of the current spread of the Lankan/Eelam Tamils population inside or outside SL, but I know that they were the majority in the North and East of Sri Lanka and those are the areas they want to govern. This does not mean that there will be no Tamils in the rest of Lanka after Eelam is born or that there will be no Sinhalese or Muslims in Eelam. Sri Lanka will be majority Sinhalese and Eelam will be majority Tamil. Both countries need to treat their minorities with respect (unlike what happened in the unified SL).

The current leadership of the Tamils needs to be steadfast in order to achieve their freedom. Prabhakaran has been the best choice for this role in the current context. Once the country of Eelam is born, he will have his place in that country's history as the father of the nation. Post freedom, Eelam should transition to a democracy where Eelam citizens should be able to choose their own leaders (and your friend would be able to vote for a leader of his/her choice)

I am not from SL. I am from TN (Tamil Nadu)
gajan99
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  23 Jul 2007 07:14:03 GMT  Report for Abuse   
TNT thumby

But the problem 'EHE' if you vote the one you like boss wil chop your hand off.
in Thamilnauduweth are their homelands?

Mehe nam ehemai, eheth ehemada?
TNTamil
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  23 Jul 2007 07:19:11 GMT  Report for Abuse   
TNT...there's no justifiable reason for sri lankans to gievaway 2/3 of it's coastline and 1/3 of it's landmass as a separate country to a minority of 18% especially based on ethnicity...
Tamils have peacefully settled in the south and sinhalese people don't call it 'sinhala land'
As you know there aren't any sinhalese in so called tiger area and even the muslims in jafna were chased away...


I am in favor of Eelam with Sinhalese and Muslims included in the post freedom period and I believe the LTTE is also in favor of this.

another country within SL will never be created and so many years of war and ever depleting numbers of tamil population is ample evidence for this...


There's no logic to what you say. There is no god given right for SL to be one country. The territorial integrity clause is respected by all nations to avoid inter nation wars on account of boundary displutes. This does not hold good in SL.

as far the brits and dutch are concerned... they forcefully took over Sri Lanka like they did with many other countries... there was never a legitimate reason or any historical background for SL to be split the way these people did it for their own petty gains... This is not even worth point of arguing about here :)
there have been many threads on the topic with lots of arguments from both sides and people like Mucha are history buffs who know much better of what they are talking about :)


The point is if the Brits and the Dutch did not come to SL, the countries existing on the Island today would have probably been along the lines of the Sinhala/Tamil kingdoms that existed before. So, again the basis for a unitary SL state does not have very deep roots.
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  23 Jul 2007 07:22:11 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Deportation: 29 Lankan Tamils on hunger strike in London

Oh these people they try their own ways! I am preety sure that British are not going to tolerate it any more. Not only the British Govt., most of european States are deporting Tamil asylum seekers.
Duka thamai!!

Sinthaka - a warm welcome to the club!
I'm new to this forum. But, I've been visiting this site very often to go through all of your very interesting posts( especially Pera's :)). Great stuff guys. Keep it up...

Pera Sir, there you are, as most of forum members do enjoy your posts, including me. I didn't see you thanking Sinthaka for the compliment, are you a bit worried??



Edited By - Sweetlady - 23 Jul 2007 07:23:35 GMT
Sinthaka
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  23 Jul 2007 07:25:27 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Hi Sweetlady,

Thanks for the warm welcome. Very nice to meet all of you, infact...
TNTamil
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  23 Jul 2007 07:25:30 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Nah... :)
let's keep on killing LTTE... :)
they're at an all time low so might as well make use of it :)
Drop the separate state demand, disarm or be annihilated :)

i'm off...have fun :)

TNT...nice chatting to you mate...catch ya later...work calls :)


Well. It just amazes me that people are so fixated on a man made entity - A country can make adjustments for the sake of the people, but in SL people are being sacrificed for the sake of a entity created by the colonial powers.
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  23 Jul 2007 07:29:27 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Sinthaka,

Oh yes, thank you very much for 'enjoying' my posts. Welcome to LNP :)

Sweetlady

Pera Sir, there you are, as most of forum members do enjoy your posts, including me. I didn't see you thanking Sinthaka for the compliment, are you a bit worried??


thank you for reminding me to observe manners.

Cheers

PERA

Sinthaka
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  23 Jul 2007 07:36:42 GMT  Report for Abuse   
TNTamil,

Reiterate that Sri Lanka's case has no relevance to examples Haiti or N. Korea. This is Sri Lanka with 18% population demanding a non-existent separate state from a majority of 73%. Even if it did, then why aren't the IC demanding a separate state called Eelam from the SL govt?.....simply because there is no basis for separation, unlike the countries you claimed as examples. If there was justification for Eelam, then the foreign govt's would have yelled blue murder long time ago and there would have been a separate state by now..

Now that you've mentioned it, look what separation has done to these countries..Haiti, N. Korean. On the brink of starvation. That's that separatism does for you.
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