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Shakti
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  27 Jun 2007 03:47:30 GMT  Report for Abuse  
As I said to ML, few days ago, people who object to gay/lesbian rights saying it is 'not natural' should also object to ordination of Buddhist monks (and other priests) because that is also AGAINST NATURE.

If reproduction should be a key role to be played by human beings in their lives why force some people to abstain from that? Buddhist monks are not supposed to have sex, so they go against the nature and ignore the role assigned to them by nature. Why not object to that?

So it is clear that these people object to gay/lesbian lifestyles NOT because they are so much concerned about nature etc or anything else, but purely for political reasons. IT GOES AGAINST THEIR TALIBAN SOCIETY WHICH THEY CAN DOMINATE.

These objections are only another approach of objecting the minorities in the society. The majorities (in anyway) always wants to rule the society they want (and get the maximum benefits for themselves) and object any dissident in any manner.

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Shakti
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  27 Jun 2007 03:49:19 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Can we also have special rehabilitation centres for Gay & Lesbians too???


Why not? Let us have one for Buddhist monks too who practice 'nashta kaama'.

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  27 Jun 2007 04:28:41 GMT  Report for Abuse  
I'm very much against gay marriage, but I read in an article recently that scientists have observed same-sex couples in giraffes and other animals! Their argument is that maybe homosexuality is not that unnatural after all.

Edited By - Imperator - 27 Jun 2007 04:59:15 GMT
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  27 Jun 2007 05:01:12 GMT  Report for Abuse  
That said, Sri Lanka has seen dramatic segregations in the political fronts recently. One is the clear division between Nationalist and Anti-Nationalist forces in the last election. Even though it was not noticed widely, almost all the homosexuals are now sitting in one side of the parliament. It is highly likely that this becomes a trendy political force within the next two-three years.

Offering Gay/Lesbian rights constitutionally is worth considering since there is a real risk of current government using the existing laws to curb the prominent members of the opposition. I don't think western religious concept of human rights facilitates such a move, therefore they may pass a new bill to change the laws. Thereby, not only Rosanna, but also many others will be able to 'sleep' peacefully.
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  27 Jun 2007 05:41:23 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Vishnu,

Even though it was not noticed widely, almost all the homosexuals are now sitting in one side of the parliament.


Thanks for pointing this out and proving my theory that this is a POLITICAL issue is correct.

Anyway this does not come as a surprise. Whenever there is a strong nationalistic/racist/Taliban movement (depending on the way you look at it) within a country every dissident that opposes get into one camp, EVEN WHEN THERE ARE NO COMMON LINKS THAT BIND THEM.

Take Hitler's Nazi regime for example. List all the groups Hitler had sent for Gas chambers - the so called 'Untermensch' (Subhumans).

1. Jews (most prominently)
2. Gypsies
3. Communists
4. Homosexuals
5. Disabled

What all these have in common? NOTHING. But one way or the other they were not a part of Hitler's Aryan Germany. So Hitler put all these groups that has no common link together and marched them towards destruction.

What happens in Sri Lanka is not very different.

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  27 Jun 2007 05:41:35 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Can we also have special rehabilitation centres for Gay & Lesbians too???

Why not? Let us have one for Buddhist monks too who practice 'nashta kaama'


This guy seems got wires crossed. Though I am not a Buddhist, I belive there is nothing in Buddhist Monks in related to be rehabilitated. Clergy means no marraige and no sex- obvious.

Can we see any Lesbian Or Gay who does not opt to have sex. The main reason for being a Lesbians or Gays is that to FULLFIL the 'upside down' sex desire and nothing else. So get together, get married and have 'upside down sex'. This is serious man.

Gays & Lesbians with No sex. The New Trend of Gay & Lesbian Sex couples.

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Edited By - sunawij - 27 Jun 2007 05:45:50 GMT
Shakti
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  27 Jun 2007 05:43:11 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Sunawij,

No sex = against nature.

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sunawij
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  27 Jun 2007 05:51:14 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Shakti,

No Sex is NOT against the nature. It is the absence of having 'upside down sex' which commonly seen in gays/lesbians.

A sperm head leaps at its high speed to meet the loving female egg, meeting *xhit* instead of female egg IS AGAINST nature.

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Shakti
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  27 Jun 2007 05:54:45 GMT  Report for Abuse  
No Sex is NOT against the nature.


No sex is AGAINST nature because it prevents reproduction.

Imagine a world everyone abstains from sex. The outcome will be same as everyone gay/lesbian. Agree?

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Shakti
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  27 Jun 2007 06:02:02 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Well, let me cut and paste some material from the wikipedia page on Nazism, because it is very relevant here.

Hitler also claimed that a nation was the highest creation of a 'race', and 'great nations' (literally large nations) were the creation of homogeneous populations of 'great races', working together. These nations developed cultures that naturally grew from 'races' with 'natural good health, and aggressive, intelligent, courageous traits'. The 'weakest nations', Hitler said, were those of 'impure' or 'mongrel races', because they had divided, quarrelling, and therefore weak cultures. Worst of all were seen to be the parasitic 'Untermensch' (Subhumans), mainly Jews, but also Gypsies, homosexuals, the disabled and so called anti-socials, all of whom were considered 'lebensunwertes Leben' ('Life-unworthy life') owing to their perceived deficiency and inferiority, as well as their wandering, nationless invasions ('the International Jew').


According to Nazism, it is an obvious mistake to permit or encourage plurality within a nation.


Hitler claimed that nations that could not defend their territory did not deserve it. He thought 'slave races', like the Slavic peoples, to be less worthy to exist than 'leader races'. In particular, if a master race should require room to live ('Lebensraum'), he thought such a race should have the right to displace the inferior indigenous races.


'Races without homelands', Hitler proclaimed, were 'parasitic races', and the richer the members of a parasitic race were, the more virulent the parasitism was thought to be. A master race could therefore, according to the Nazi doctrine, easily strengthen itself by eliminating parasitic races from its homeland. This was the given rationalization for the Nazis' later oppression and elimination of Jews, Gypsies, Czechs, Poles, the mentally and physically handicapped, homosexuals and others not belonging to these groups or categories that were part of the Holocaust.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi

Does this sound familiar? :-)





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