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President meets Eric Solheim as religious leaders condemn violence
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JRJayawardena
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16 Jun 2007 21:49:10 GMT Report for Abuse
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Saman,
I think majority of the LTTE supporters have a wrong view on monks who cause trouble to peace which is not correct. In my view, Buddhist monks in the past have voiced their concerns against the imperialists and still they have a voice to concern about.
Buddhism is a philosophy than a religion, so its nothing to do with taliban style fantacism as some may try to put it, the important fact of Buddhist monks is they need to create awareness via Dhamma, even Buddha has create that kind of Dhamma to Liccavy royalty in India.
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16 Jun 2007 21:56:20 GMT Report for Abuse
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Franklyn,
You have continued to fail to realise what I was telling you.Instead you keep uttering the same thing in defence of Pirapa n' LTTE.
have you ever wondered why there is no Tamil representation other than the LTTE? Have you taken care to find out why that is so? I am sure the answer is a big 'NO'
This is the problem. when the LTTE decimated all the other parties and their leadership like an emperor who would not leave a chance to budding revolutionists, the folks had no idea especially the younger generation hence embrace Pirapa as the only leader. Am I correct?
You would not talk about TULF, FP, ACTC, CWC or ENDLF. They have been obliterated by the LTTE, and that is why I mentioned before the Tamil democracy is swept under the carpet.
Franklyn, you guys use derogatory terms to call all Lankans/Sinhalese who would voice against the LTTE, this clearly shows how your thought stream takes place, this is why we have more racially motivated crime than before.
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16 Jun 2007 21:59:44 GMT Report for Abuse
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Franklyn
Sihalays were always beaten - Left right & middle.
Wow wow, now you are getting in to a real 'dush bag'. |
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16 Jun 2007 21:59:52 GMT Report for Abuse
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16 Jun 2007 21:51:34 GMT
Nirupam,
The need to beat LTTE first arises only if the govt wants to revert back to pre-1983 era in which anti-Tamils riots could be used to check and sabotage any Tamil protest. Of course in that scenario the state of affairs will be as usual and the govt will continue with its racist policies
For your knowledge Sinhalaya so far holding back. We had seen Kabithigollawa massacre, Hikkaduwa attack,Rathmalana
and so on . So far average Sinhalaya didn't start the type of riots as 1983. LTTE had tried few times to provoke them but couldn't succeed them. Some of us learn the lesson after 83 riots and but there will be a day Sinhala in west and south going to run out their patience.
Hope you remember what happen to JVP. They came with the violence but eventually they had put down their arms and joined the political process. LTTE want a separatism they have to put their arms first. If not you guys will never see the Eelam.
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16 Jun 2007 22:07:11 GMT Report for Abuse
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Franklyn
There are thousands of incidents, where religious leaders and religions behavior were totally unacceptable, but it doesn't mean that exact religion as a whole is unacceptable.
If you really don't understand let me know I'll give you further simple answer.
Stay away from other's religions.
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JRJayawardena
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16 Jun 2007 22:11:41 GMT Report for Abuse
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Franklyn,
He was killed by a mob led by this Pansal saadu in Kekirawa in 77. With great difficulty we brought back his body to Colombo with the help of an illicit brewer.
Well, I am sorry to hear the sad story, but I am very surprised by that story especially when you claim a mob led by the monk. Because as far I know there were lot of Tamils saved in 1983 in the temples by the Buddhist monks, so it highly contradictory to the Buddhist principles and morals. And also its difficult to believe a Buddhist monk who gets the 'Dana' would turn against his devotee.
However, being a Buddhist, I must say, you cannot generalise all the Buddhists in the same manner. There are Buddhists who would be just born as Buddhist but would not know about Buddhism at all. Buddhism is based on principles of love, maitrey, and giving. For such religion and those who follow it, things like you said cannot be trusted.
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16 Jun 2007 22:16:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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Franklin,
Stay away from others religions.
You should listen to Saint.
Every religion have good and bad monks,priests or pusaris.
It amaze me you pro Tamils are the one who drag us to argument using Sinhala Buddhist. How about if we start calling you Hindu Tamil LTTE . At least I finding Sinhala in this site didn't attach a religion in front of word 'Tamil'. This explains which group is more racists. |
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16 Jun 2007 22:17:57 GMT Report for Abuse
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JRJ,
My question is how we can convince the moderate Tamils for a feasible solution by eliminating the terrorism. I was of the view of PCs and still believe thats a good start
All your bluff reaffirms my statement and the fears of many Sri Lankans of all races.
No SL govt ever proposed a genuine solution. All that they want is to legitimise Sinhala supremacy by whatever system they want to propose or impose.
No need to 'convince the moderate Tamils for a feasible solution by eliminating the terrorism' because genuine feasible solution based on equality of communities will eliminate terrorism. 'Terrorism' came to check state oppression and suppression of minorities. So the reversing the sequence, that is, eradicatng the armed struggle will never necessacitate finding a solution.
By moderate Tamils you mean EPDP with 1 MP, the JVP nominee Ananthasangaree and the thief whose wife deposited 25 million rupees in the Colombo bank, then, dishonesty of Sinhala leaders need no more testmony.
PCs is a good start if the Sinhala leaders let it function ITSELF without stangling it as real JRJ did with Northeast PC in 1987 that led to the UDI of Eelam by the Chief Minister. |
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16 Jun 2007 22:19:37 GMT Report for Abuse
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I do not have much time to debate and i just log in to have a quick scan through threads.
jrj
the Tamil democracy is swept under the carpet.
do you accept there was in the past, two kingdoms in the island called Ceylon?
if you say yes, your people stole our land with the help of British, if not you people cheated the British too by taking advantage of majoritarianism, we do not enjoy the 1948 soulberry drafted constitution since 1956.
if you say no. you are lying .
your people changed the article 29 of the soulberry drafted constitution in 1956 without the consent of the minorities which gave the right to exist equally to all citizens. by removing the article 29 helped to plant the foundation for a unitary form of constitution.
sinhala only and Buddhism as the state religion introduced through out the country with the help of majoritarianism while lanka is a multi ethnic, multi culture and multi language country,. if the article 29 in the constitution wasn't removed unconstitutionally, you and me will not fight today.
now tell me how on earth a minority groups political parties survive with a unitary constitution like the one in srilanka without loosing the identity and dignity?
we are only asking the majority to hand back the land to the rightful owners!!
note:- article 29 on the 1948 soul berry drafted constitution bars introducing any laws against the minority and in favor of majority.
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16 Jun 2007 22:25:02 GMT Report for Abuse
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Nirupama,
No need to 'convince the moderate Tamils for a feasible solution by eliminating the terrorism' because genuine feasible solution based on equality of communities will eliminate terrorism. 'Terrorism' came to check state oppression and suppression of minorities.
This is wonderful by you and it justifies you assisting tyranny and terrorism of the LTTE, this is the fundamental problem we have in the face to put up with.
You call me bluffing because you justify tyranny, isn't it simple Simon approach?
In other words you want the GOSL to give into Terrorism in the name of eliminating it. Isn't that risible?
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