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Mucha-linda
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 13 Jun 2007 02:40:14 GMT Report for Abuse
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SO then MR is doing the same thing which you accused RW and CBK of.
ANIZAM,
I don't know how many times I have repeat this, but to do it one more time, I did not support MR because he is GOOD and did not criticize RW because he is BAD. I, like many other members who spoke in favour of MR, supported MR because he is relatively good. Therefore, YES, his decision to retract the decision he made to send those from North and East who reside in Colombo for no valid reasons is bad. But he is still better than RW. Understand!!
isnt that saying something to you? Weather you like it or not IC opinion matters.
Yes, as I already admitted, whether we like it or not IC opinion matters, and not only that...WHETHER THE OPINION OF IC MATTERS OR NOT, PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO WANT THE OPINION OF IC TO MATTER AND WE DONT. That is the difference you cannot cover behind your so called reality.
However, ultimately when it comes to doing it - he does exactly what his predicessors did. This is the difference between MR and RW.
No my friend, it is wrong to say that what MR is doing now is exactly what his predecessor would have done, had he been in a similar situation. MR?s occasional bow down to the pressure of IC is nowhere near the conduct of RW who act as a true agent of the so called IC. Cannot you remember, he is someone who traveled all the way up to Vavuniya to sign a Document that matters to one third of the country at the absence of the other party, something I wont do even when buying a 1982 Toyota Corolla.
There is no way you can hide all those betrayals RW orchestrated during his tenure to IC pressure and to a so called reality. For example, it was not the IC who asked IP Kulasiri Udugampola to take journalists during their raid of SLA intelligence hideout at Millenium City.
I agree, both the Kings Buwanekabahu VII and Don Juan Dharmapala bent down to the demands of Portuguese on different occasions. However, while King Buwanekabahu VII did it unwillingly and on occasions where he has no other alternative, King Don Jaun did it as if it is his duty to serve the Portuguese in whatever way he can. That is the difference I see between MR and RW.
Mister - Let me tell you thins much. NO SL govt is in a position to 'Presseur' anyone.
First, I did not necessarily mean the political pressure the GOSL can thrust on others using economic means. However, there are some tactical ways GOSL can mount pressure on other powerful nations and that was the pressure I was referring to (FYI: not sure what the situation in US is, however, do not think those recent raids carried out on LTTE cells in Australia as arbitrary incidents). Nevertheless, I am someone who believes that *Devil is not as dark as you think*.
RW is an eternal loser who will never come to power
Can you imagine how it looks like when such an ETERNAL LOSER goes into a pact with a hardcore terrorist? That is exactly what has happened here.
Mucha - the difference between you and me is this. You are talking aobut a PERFECT world where you can do what ever it is you think - according to your wishes. Im talking about a REALISTIC world where i cant do what ever i want according to what my wishes are
No ANI, that is not the difference. We both are speaking about a world we think realistic, and therefore the difference between us has nothing to do with a so called reality. The difference we have is you want to follow Suddhas whereas I want to think like Suddhas, if you can understand what I mean.
-Mucha
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Edited By - Mucha-linda - 13 Jun 2007 02:42:16 GM |
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 13 Jun 2007 03:39:20 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha:
Before i go onto respond to - Have we got our names correct? just to make sure - I am Freddie and You are Anderai? RIGHT? (Although I really think your a cross between Anderai and Mahadanamuttha. But that?s ok - for now we will just stick with Anderai) :) :) OK?? :)
Ok to respond to you...
But he is still better than RW. Understand!!
So MR is the 'BETTER Man' just like RW is the 'BETTER Economic Manager'?? :) :)
Humm lets see...
In a matter of a mere 1 1/2 years...After being elected BY the LTTE (thanks to the 1 billion Bribe)
1. Economy in RUIN.
2. HIGHEST Inflation and Interest rates in ASIA (since taking over the Rupee has lost over 10% of value).
3. Tourism on the verge of Collapse.
4. Our only international Airport Closed for half of the Day.
5. Law and order situation - we are almost like Zimbabwe and What Rwanda as in the early 90s.
6. The LARGEST Cabinet in the world - but one family controls 75% of the Budget.
7. Several of our Donor countries cutting aid due to the Human rights situation and the world equating the SLG with a terrorist organization.
8. The Solution put forward by MR to the most pressing issue in the country has been REJECTED by EVERY SINGLE political party including the JVP and JHU!
Yes I TOTALLY Understand what your saying Now. You know how I Understand? Cos Im Freddie Silva and Your ANDERAI!! :) :)
MR?s occasional bow down to the pressure of IC is nowhere near the conduct of RW who act as a true agent of the so called IC.
You see it as bowing down. I see it a little Differently. I see it as tactfully handling the IC and turning them against the LTTE. I showed you above the CONSEQUENCES of MRs attitude. This is directly related to another point you brought up a little later on Handling the LTTE and the International Community 'TACTFULLY' ('Tactically' was the word you used).
There is no way you can hide all those betrayals RW orchestrated during his tenure to IC pressure and to a so called reality. For example, it was not the IC who asked IP Kulasiri Udugampola to take journalists during their raid of SLA intelligence hideout at Millenium City.
IF things really did happen the way you are saying - there is a simple solution. Arrest and Punish the man responsible. After all RW is calling for the Arrest of most of the RajaPASSA family for giving money to the LTTE. Sripathi was put in Jail for abusing a Vehicle. What your accusing RW is something much more serious.
Just because you repeat a LIE over and over again - it doesn?t magically turn into the truth - Things like that happen only in very troubled heads! :) :)
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Continued...
However, there are some tactical ways GOSL can mount pressure on other powerful nations and that was the pressure I was referring to (FYI: not sure what the situation in US is, however, do not think those recent raids carried out on LTTE cells in Australia as arbitrary incidents).
Now your talking! The KEY word is 'TACTICAL'. For this you need a little BRAIN. :) How about showing the world the govt of SL respects human rights, the govt of Srilanka is willing to give the Tamils a GENUINE solution, show the world that the Govt is DIFFERENT from a Terrorist Organization.... The world will Ban the LTTE. Not just carry out a few raids like what happened in Australia like you claim.
Check out the Reasons why EU BANNED the LTTE. Note: 'BANNED' the LTTE. Not just conducted a Few raids!
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2006/5/6952.html
Can you imagine how it looks like when such an ETERNAL LOSER goes into a pact with a hardcore terrorist? That is exactly what has happened here.
There is a Difference between being an ETERNAL LOSER and a Completely BRAINLESS VISIONLESS Buffalo.
I showed you the Consequences of what happened when this LOSER went into an agreement with a Hard Core terrorist. (Once again you might want to read the earlier link I gave you as to why the EU banned the LTTE). :) While your at it just read some of the articles as to how the Karuna Break away came about. None other than TWO of MRs (the man ?better? than RW) Ministers (Milinda Moragoda and Navin Dissanayaka) have clearly explained how the Karuna Break away took place.
But you know what ? Since Srilanka is Filled with HIGHLY intelligent Voters - We can TOP the 'loser going into an agreement with a Terrorist' event. How about we give the running of the country to a COMPLETE BRAINLESS VISIONLESS Buffalo? This is such a Great IDEA that EVEN the LTTE will help elect him!! :) :)
Sincerely and Good night
Freddie :) :)
Edited By - anizam - 13 Jun 2007 03:55:50 GMT |
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13 Jun 2007 04:02:36 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha,
I didn't expect anything less from what you had to give me in your reply to my post. As usual your argument is based on finding faults in my posting with no counter argument to the questions I raised. Let me clarify things for you.
The USA obviously resorts to extra-judicial methods such as unauthorized monitoring which are violations of privacy, possible abductions of terrorists and run places like Guantanamo bay where I'm sure quite a bit of torturing goes on. Like I said it would be naive of me to argue against that. Obviously, I don't need to go into detail about how much western governments spend on systems to curb terrorism, such as passenger profiling and monitoring systems.
Now comming back to the situation in Sri Lanka. Our government on the other hand, resorts to abduction of terrorist too (extra-judicial methods). Never have I argued against this in any of the posts on this site. So far, there is not much difference between SL and US government. Agreed. I'm sure, you heard about a recent terrorist plot to blow up JFK airport which was successfully thwarted thanks to the monitoring that had been carried out by the FBI. Now if the FBI had know for a while that these muslims could be possible terrorists, they could have easily shipped these terrorist off thus eliminationg any threat posed by them. But we didn't see any of that did we? Instead they were charged with plotting with the terrorist. Now on the other hand, Our government wasn't even 100% sure that those tamils were terrorist but there was no delay in packing them off. When there is no sufficient evidence but a mere speculation, only thing we should have done was to closely monitor these individuals. THIS IS THE POINT WHERE OUR GOVERNMENT DIFFERS FROM WESTERN GOVERNMENTS AS FAR AS HANDLING TERRORISM IS CONCERNED.
Now to playing by the rules. Mister, no matter how much people like you love to think that we can do whatever the hell we want, while we receive aid we still have to play by the rules. I don't like it one bit either but I'm mature enough to understand that. And we saw how well us trying to pressure the IC had gone so far. Until we find oil Modapaksha can't pull a Hugo Chavez. So when I mean play by the rules, I'm talking about playing by THEIR rules. So that they will keep their mouths shut. Tell me, has the USA recently (after 9/11) shipped out massive numbers of Muslims for being muslim?
What people don't understand is, something like this was probably ordered by none other than our defence secy. And it was probably done not mainly with the objective of protecting the public but protecting himself along with his Moda Siblings under paranoic circumastances and with very little insight put into it. Now under heavy pressure and condemnation from the IC, the blame is being passed onto those who are mere puppets whilst the Modapaksha's save their faces. |
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 13 Jun 2007 04:59:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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Anizam the punnakku lebbe,
Sorry dear I dont think there is anything I have to learn from you about the energy crisis. Your reference alone suggests me where are you with respect to the SRI LNAKA's power crisis.
You guys think with the international wisdom and I do not wonder about it,
This is what your boss also thinks to energise the whole country with few solar panels.
If you have genuine interest you may refer to the number of generation planning studies and studies done on the cheap and suitable energy sources to SRI LANKA.
Do not too much rely on the your god IC.
as ussual more than 2-3 of your postings are scrap just showing how much are you are worrying about RW loss and jeoularcy with MR.
you seems to be using the word Punnakku than any other in this forum, again showing your familiarity with them. That gave me the idea to confer you with the title PUNNAKKU LEBBE.
World is little bigger than the RW 's world dear, just go out and see. |
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| It is a fact that hundreds of thousands of Tamils live in Colombo and other Sinhala majority areas. This is pointed out as indication of Tamils preferring to live amidst Sinhala people rather than in the North - East. This is also a reason for the failure of the separatist cry by the Terror group. Now if we forcefully send them back to the NorthEast which they are already claiming as their homeland, is it incorrect to say that we are helping them to establish their homeland? |
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13 Jun 2007 05:14:44 GMT Report for Abuse
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PL
Now only I read the latter part of your posting. there is nothing related to my post, I did not talk about Chamal Rajapakse or the problem he faced recently. So today you guys like RW do not know what you are talking.. this is the sad side of the batalanda chapter today.
They cannot wait till the next election.
Anyway learn to reply with answers to the points raised.
I have noted that in most yof your long postings there is nothing valuable. if somebody checks the words in a posting, more than half of are 'PUNNAKKU'.
I am very much unhappy with Mucha and Pera for disgracing FREDDIE SILVA.!! |
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13 Jun 2007 14:59:41 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dearest Punnaku GANJA: :)
Sorry dear I dont think there is anything I have to learn from you about the energy crisis.
Yep Miracles dont happen as often. There is NOTHING i tried to teach you. What i showed you was COMMON sence.
You said 'Coal was the Future'. Coal is the Future only in one Place - Inside the RajaPASSA - where you seem to have taken refuge for the past 50 years! :)
Read the articles i showed you. :) :) and you will see that there is a world outside the RajaPASSA and that water hole in Hambanthota. The Future of energy is CHEAP, CLEAN and RENEWABLE energy. (Something even my two children learn in elementary school.) Coal does not fall to any of that Catagory. I have backed up my response with SOLID FACTS!!The NEW source of ENERGY is happening in a BIG way and is happening NOW.
This is what your boss also thinks to energise the whole country with few solar panels.
You can energise the whole of Srilanka with about 1% of the Energy used in California alone. READ THE LINKS I gave you -it might open your eyes. Man think with your HEAD. Not with your PASSA!! Srilanka is an ISLAND. There is Plenty of Wind in the Coastal areas to power massive Wind farms.
you seems to be using the word Punnakku than any other in this forum, again showing your familiarity with them.
Thats cos i like to talk to my subjects in the language that will catch your attention. And punnakku Obviously catches your attention cos thats the main food for you. Proof is - you have noticed that i use the word Punnakku alot!! :) :) So obviously your paying attention to my writings :) :)
That gave me the idea to confer you with the title PUNNAKKU LEBBE.
And your 'knowledge' of the Future of energy made me give you the title - 'the CEO of power supply to Motta ralas water hole in Hambanthota' :) :)
Anyway learn to reply with answers to the points raised.
Yes your HI-ness. I will respond to only the POint you bring up. I wont bring up anything else because ONLY you decide what can be brought up here and whats not allowed.
YOu said 'the Future of power is COAL' I PROVED to you WRONG with FACTS - the Future of Energy is NOT COAL!!
Machan - down keep your head buried INSIDE the RajaPASSA for this long. 50 years is a LONG time to keep your head inside anybodies PASSA. bring it out a little more often and stay away from the GANJA - its not very good for you!! :)
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Now the Murderous DOG is destroying Evidance!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2007/06/070613_alles_house.shtml
Documents taken from Alles' house
Valuable documents and CDs were stolen from the house of Tiran Alles, a former minister said.
Sacked minister Sripathi Sooriyaarachchi said the missing documents had evidence to prove that President Mahinda Rajapaksa gave money to LTTE before the presidential elections.
Alles, who was arrested by the Terrorist Investigation Department (TID), was released on bail by Colombo magistrate earlier on Wednesday.
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PL
I dont find anything useful in your posting.
I was talking about viable energy sources for SRI LANKA. Before understanding the reality you need to underdtnad the basics of generation planning principles and I dont have time to do that.
this is the problem you guys always think what is done in USA is the solution for evry where. USA is not the whole world dear.
Anyway I do not wonder about your views on the power sector, as I have seen much on your political analysis.
Also your suggessions recall me two fellows in sri Lanka.
one is the Majeed BASSUNNHE, may be you are aware, around last year he told in media that he has found a technique to supply energy to whole country utilising wave energy. He demanded some 3m usd to disclose it and I dont know what happened after that, Anyway that guy is a poor mechanic that we can forgive .
the second guy , is a professional like you (name not disclosed) may be you are aware,made a big ha hu to enrgise the country with dondra, again the poor chap forget the cost of fuel required for the tractors to tranport dontra just to generate 1 MW.
So we have various kind of experts like you today on politics and other key areas who are not on the ground. That is the main reason for us to suffer like this. they do not know what they are talking or doing.
today for a country like sri lanka COAL is the most viable option in large scale power generation. Today all our problems are due to the insuffient generating capacity. we need to boost with a bigger addtions.
Coal will be there for another 200 years while petrolem ang gases last in 30-35 and 40-50 years respectively.
Today Clean coal technology is well developed and proved used world over.
I agree the clear and renewable energy will be the governing criteria in the future.
but still solar and some other sources cannot be used as the main energy source in a country. One primary reason is the unit cost. May be you can find in your childrens books about the biggest solar plants so far installed in the world.
So as we Sri Lanka need to boost our installed capacity with a cheap and viable source immediately, we cant wait till the future sources.For that COAL is the only option.
I think you need to think locally.
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So freind again in your posting if you look at 2/3 are filled with, RAJA PASSA/ Hambantota/ BUFFALLO/water hole/ again punnakku/motta rala/..etc etc..
So what is the meaning of all these. is it not you just showing your anger and jeoulasy with the MR and the supportes.
Now you are talking about a Hambantota water hole but I am also living in a G8 country like you do. Is this the way you conclude things?
You may add more words to abuse but still we have to accept that MR is the president, RW is no where and you are PL and I am Gajan and nothing will change.
So why to waste words like this. In fact this is the agony of this country, the behaviouir of so called professional experts.
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