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anizam
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 12 Jun 2007 04:20:12 GMT Report for Abuse
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The problem with people like you is you all have become so much *internationalized* (thanks to broad-minded UNP) such that you no longer care if LTTE is actually being defeated in Sri Lanka or not, as long as they have been ridiculed at the *International* (well, the fact is UNP under Ranil no longer want to have LTTE defeated at this juncture).
Yes yes a Perfect Genius like you, know about everyone else problems more than we ourselfs! as i said, If Mahathanamuttha was alive he would be blushing reading your comments!!
Lets forget RW and his 'Internationalization' for a second. We all know RW is a 'TRAITOR' like our highly esteemed Gamiya has been reminding us on a hourly basis.
Lets look at how DIFFERENTLY MR has been handling the issue. It would be worth recalling that MR is the MOST patriotic Leader from the south who never gave an inch to the LTTE (Not even One billion Rs) for the LTTE.
You have been prasing MRs so called uncompromising Military approach here. So as you say International concerns are a seconday issue and the Primary goal should be to destroy the LTTE - right??
Then Why on earth did the very same govt you praise so much, Bring back those very same Tamils (potential suicide bombers) back to colombo after the international out cry?? If the war can be faught Successfully - while keeping aside the 'International opinion' then dont you think our MOST Patriotic leader would be doing that right now, and NOT bringing back those tamils?? Or has he also been bought over by the Norwegians and the rest of the world?
Mucha - we all know you are a BRILLIANT Genius who knows it ALL. But have you thought for a minute that may be people like CBK, MR and RW did (and doing) what they did, because the Key to defeating the LTTE is keeping the 'International Community' happy? As remote as this possiblity might be - may be since they in the Driving seat (and your NOT), they just might have to face this MINOR issue called 'Reality' - Something which you have NO CLUE about.
It is very easy for 'Arm Chair' War Lords like your self to sit in far away places and prech to others. But running a country is a littler different as our Great Patriot Sri Rohana Punnakku rala is finding out...
Cheers and im off to bed.
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anizam
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12 Jun 2007 04:23:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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cammon man...
just disagree...
so we could sparr...
life is boring here!
Ok lets have a debate.. Do you think MR will be in 'Power' for longer than Saddam Hussain or Fidel Castro? I say No! |
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 12 Jun 2007 04:53:42 GMT Report for Abuse
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Buddhu Amey, can you believe this,
The recent eviction of Tamil youth from lodgings in Colombo and their forced ?repatriation? to the north and east must have left the LTTE rubbing their hands with glee. Not only does this make for excellent propaganda against Sinhala racism but it gives back to the LTTE the very people who were escaping their clutches by fleeing south. Ever since the massacres of July 1983, the Sri Lankan army and police have been regularly recruiting Tamils for the LTTE.
Sri Lanka has long fallen into the category of a ?failed state?. It is ruled by a non-elected ?inner circle? comprising the President, his brothers and his friends.
Neither the Sinhala political leadership nor those promoting and funding the LTTE have any stake in the future of this country. All their children are safely settled in the West, and their fortunes in offshore banks. They don?t have to suffer the consequences of their respective nationalisms. The brunt of the war is borne by poor Sinhalese and Tamils who have nowhere else to live. Those who still talk of a ?military victory? do so from inside their bullet-proof cars and behind their fortified mansions (all paid for by local taxpayers) or those from far away places around the world sitting in their posh rooms with all comforts. |
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 12 Jun 2007 05:48:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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ANIZAM,
Don't misinterpret my opinions. I have nowhere said that MR is carrying out an *uncompromising* military approach (the fact is, it is too early for us to be too certain on this matter). Let, MR decides to reach a compromise or not at a later stage, I believe that Tamil Racism should be defeated militarily and theoretically to end this crisis. Until that is achieved, I will support anyone who is willingly (or unwillingly) traveling along that path, because this is a situation where every single step in the correct direction counts.
Then Why on earth did the very same govt you praise so much, Bring back those very same Tamils (potential suicide bombers) back to colombo after the international out cry
Did I ever praise MR's government for the decision they have made to bring back those possible suicide cadres. For me, this is a clear case where MR have given it up under the pressure from so called International Community, and yes, I am against that decision to bring them back.
If the war can be faught Successfully - while keeping aside the 'International opinion' then dont you think our MOST Patriotic leader would be doing that right now, and NOT bringing back those tamils
ANI, as I said earlier, you have again misinterpreted my opinion. I did nowhere say that International Opinion should be kept aside. What I said is that militarily defeating LTTE is more important than winning the International Opinion at the expense of one third of our motherland.
Mister, let me clarify one more point about the so called International Community and it's opinion. I am not of the view that IC will help us to solve our problems at their expense (instead, there may at least be some elements among IC who actually want us to continue with this war, if not to offer a clear victory to Tamil Racism, not essentially to LTTE in its current form). Nevertheless, thanks to our dependence on so called aids, we are not in a position to completely ignore the opinion of IC. The best any Sri Lankan government can do in relation to so called IC is to pressure them to a level where they make no more voices against the conduct of GOSL.
But have you thought for a minute that may be people like CBK, MR and RW did (and doing) what they did, because the Key to defeating the LTTE is keeping the 'International Community' happy?
Forget about MR. About the remaining two, No, I have never thought for a second that those foolish acts they did during their tenures were done solely under the pressure of so called IC.
Good Night.
-Mucha
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Edited By - Mucha-linda - 12 Jun 2007 05:50:06 GM |
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 12 Jun 2007 06:47:19 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ok lets have a debate.. Do you think MR will be in 'Power' for longer than Saddam Hussain or Fidel Castro? I say No!
I say NO too...
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so where is our debate then???
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12 Jun 2007 16:18:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha,
Is the measures taken by the Sri Lankan government any different to the Passenger Profiling currently being discussed in Western Nations to implement to screen passengers at airports.
I didn't realise you were ignorant enough that you couldn't understand the difference between what the Sri Lankan government did and what's being done in the USA to curb terrorism. As usual, you accuse your opponents of not being able to analyse the situation carefully when you yourself is unable to understand. What I did was exactly the opposite of what you accused me of doing.
I don't know why you are still trying to argue for this move considering the government admitted it was a mistake and the supreme court ruling. But then again, we can't expect much from people like you. Getting back to the point. If these Tamils were found to be connected with the terrorist, then what our government should have done was to detain them (like how its done in the US). If not much convincing evidence is available to detain them, then put survellence on them (just like its done in the US). Of course being a Muslim in the US, probably has a higher probablity of being monitored by the authorities. It would be naive on my part if I didn't admit that even western countries resort to extrajudicial methods when battling terrorism. But when has the US evicted Muslims for being Muslims at the notion that they could be possible terrorist. Mister, battling terrorism is not an easy game. It needs alot of resources. Of course, you can resort to low-cost shameless methods like what our government did. But if the government was interested in playing by the rules, then it would invest more money into our intelligence services and implement systems (JUST LIKE ITS DONE IN THE WESTERN COUNTRIES) to protect our people. |
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12 Jun 2007 16:40:24 GMT Report for Abuse
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Did I ever praise MR's government for the decision they have made to bring back those possible suicide cadres. For me, this is a clear case where MR have given it up under the pressure from so called International Community, and yes, I am against that decision to bring them back.
SO then MR is doing the same thing which you accused RW and CBK of. SO for a man who talks so much about how he doesnt care what anyone else things and at the end does exactly what the IC wants - isnt that saying something to you? Weather you like it or not IC opinion matters. If not we will be put in the same boat as the LTTE and treated the same, which a governemnt of a country cant afford to do.
NOw i totally Agree with you that MR has been PUBLICALLY saying all those things which you seem to support. However, ultimately when it comes to doing it - he does exactly what his predicessors did. This is the difference between MR and RW.
What I said is that militarily defeating LTTE is more important than winning the International Opinion at the expense of one third of our motherland.
I totally understand what your saying. However, what MR just did and PROVED to you that MR and RW do the same thing. By bringing back the very same 'POTENTIAL suicide' bombers back to Colombo - MR proved to the world that International opinion is vital to defeating the LTTE. If this doesnt sink into you - then i dont know what to tell you.
The best any Sri Lankan government can do in relation to so called IC is to pressure them to a level where they make no more voices against the conduct of GOSL.
Mister - Let me tell you thins much. NO SL govt is in a position to 'Presseur' anyone. Contrary to what fools think Srilanka, is at the bottom of the list of priorities to the world. If we want anything done our way - we have to beg and plead, just like MR was Begging the US not to stop the Millenium fund aid and just like Rathnesiri was begging forgiveness fromv the world. The sooner you realize this, the less of an 'Anderai' you will look like on here.
Forget about MR. About the remaining two, No, I have never thought for a second that those foolish acts they did during their tenures were done solely under the pressure of so called IC.
Two points here.
1. You can put aside RW and CBK. RW is an eternal loser who will never come to power (so why do you waste your time talking about him??) and CBK is done with politics - at least for now.
On the other hand MR is in power so it will prudent for anyone to analize his actions rather than waste time on others.
2. So what your saying by this is - RW and CBK did things because of their own foolishness but MR is doing the same 'foolish' things (although the man is very smart) because of 'International Presseur'??? - Thats hell of a logic!!
Mucha - the difference between you and me is this. You are talking aobut a PERFECT world where you can do what ever it is you think - according to your wishes. Im talking about a REALISTIC world where i cant do what ever i want according to what my wishes are - because there are 'other people' who have different opinions also living there.
Edited By - anizam - 12 Jun 2007 16:42:28 GMT |
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 13 Jun 2007 00:59:36 GMT Report for Abuse
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OMG ...I cant believe this wisdom of the Batalanda chapter experts..
When I read the predictions and conclusions of the Batalanda chapter experts like Punnakku lebbe, I felt so unfortunate to be born with these experts in this beutiful island.
So this is how they analyse a situation
(MR gave 1 b and now VP is giving East to GOSL, so why they tried so hard to capture Jaffna, all arrangements made to seige Trinco..,several war ships lost, etc..etc..sending few hundred tamils lived in colombo lodges =ethnic cleansing)...
this is how they conclude...
(I am as a technical person has personally lisned to the RW bull s international wisdom, on the country's power crisis , few years ago when he was the PM. In that top level meeting I still remember what RW said about the future plans. all nonsence and he had no idea at all about the energy crisis, like in the N&E terrosist problem.
So we become fools if we are to expect otherwise from his GOLA experts.
(MR with the Village wisdom gave green light to coal project as soon as he came to power. without a coal base you cant think about a future.)
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13 Jun 2007 02:33:38 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ganja true to his name has come up with a Ganja and Punnakku mix Statement.
(MR with the Village wisdom gave green light to coal project as soon as he came to power. without a coal base you cant think about a future.)
LOL LOL your a technical person? Where?? You must be in Change of electricty for MRs Water Buffalo hole!! Only in MR water Buffalo hole is Coal the 'way of the future'.
Only someone who has been living INSIDE a Buffallos PASS wold say something like this.
Coal WAS the Future about 50 years ago. You must have been in the Water Buffalo hole for the past 50 years and just came out.
Today the Future is...Cheap CLEAN energy!
http://money.cnn.com/2006/10/26/magazines/business2/solar_siliconvalley.biz2/index.htm
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/biz2/0705/gallery.solar_tech.biz2/jump.html
I could have shown you plenty more but this is all i could find in a hurry.
Ganja - when you live in a Water whole filled with Water Buffalos like MR, and then Eat MRs punnakku day and night, its only natural you say what you said!! :) :)
Go back to your water whole and have fun. You wont get too far in the world, out side the water holes in Hambanthota.
PS: next time when you 'make up stories' try to make it a little believeable. You are on a web site read by people all over the world. Your Punnakku Kavi - is only good for Villaige idiots and Donkeys who live in Hambanthota.
PPS: We all saw how Sri ROhana Punnakku Chamail RajaPASSAs 'Village Wisdom' helped him when he got HAMMERED by Villages in Wariyapola!! :) :) The Buffallo RAN!!
See the pic : http://www.themorningleader.lk/20070613/news.html
Happy HOOTING and SWOLLOW the PUNNAKKU, bucket FULL. Im sure the PUNNAKKU is better than Ganja!! :) :)
PPPS: so yes i believe everything you said about being in meetings with the PM! :):)
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13 Jun 2007 02:35:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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MAGEYCHINTANA,
You must be one of the most interesting characters in this forum I have ever met. You first said,
I didn't realise you were ignorant enough that you couldn't understand the difference between what the Sri Lankan government did and what's being done in the USA to curb terrorism.
So, you admit that the way the Government of SL handles terrorism is different to the way that is done by the US Government.
However, you then said,
It would be naive on my part if I didn't admit that even western countries resort to extrajudicial methods when battling terrorism.
So, you now say that western countries too resort to extra-judicial methods to curb terrorists, thus ironing out any differences they possibly had, from your first statement, to the conduct of GOSL.
Without being discouraged by those obvious contradictions, you finally said,
But if the government was interested in playing by the rules, then it would invest more money into our intelligence services and implement systems (JUST LIKE ITS DONE IN THE WESTERN COUNTRIES) to protect our people.
Hmmm?.So these western countries are again playing by the rules, regardless of those extra-judicial tactics mentioned in your second statement, where as GOSL is not.
Go on?make another twist!!
Cheers!!
-Muchalinda
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Edited By - Mucha-linda - 13 Jun 2007 02:36:43 GM |
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