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 14 Jun 2007 12:35:36 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gajan99 :
thanks for the response. I dont have much time to respond as i just spend alot of time responding to Mucha.
Just quick note:
The FUTURE of energy is NOT Coal. The Future is CLEAN, CHEAP RENEABLE Energy. The Future of Energy is SOlar, Wind, Hygregon and Ethonol.
Im not an energy expert but i work in the financial industry which is diving into the Energy sector in a big way because we (entire world) are just about to see a revolution in power and energy like we have never seen before.
For the past 30 years people talked about al alternative to highly polluting energies like Oil and COal. BUt it was ONLY TALK. Oil and Coal were so cheap that there was really no incentive for people to come up with an alternative.
However, today is different. With Oil at over $60 a barrell, there is a REAL Insentive to come up with an alternative to oil and COal. What i showed you was the Tip of the ice burge. Over the next 5-10 years you will see the amazing things happening. The Techonolgy will change at a pace that one cant even dream of.
I as a person who is very convered about the Environment i sincerely hope not one Coal or Oil powered power plant comes up in SL.
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14 Jun 2007 12:53:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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This is US. Where my friend Anizam Lives. They do better than un-lodging Lodgers for Muslims :)
Pera - thats what you call the POWER of $$$. Like it or not thats how the world works today!! :) :) So you have two options - you can either accept reality and live or you can fight it eternally with the possibility of nothing at the end. |
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 14 Jun 2007 12:57:14 GMT Report for Abuse
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Anizam,
you can either accept reality and live or you can fight it eternally with the possibility of nothing at the end.
Just like you accepted that RW can't win elections and MR is president for two terms :)
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14 Jun 2007 13:22:40 GMT Report for Abuse
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I accepted RW is an Eternal loser a while back :) :)
MR only two terms? Why stop at two? That would give him only 12 years?
Castro is batting at 30 0r 40 + not out.
Saddam batted for 25 +
Maros was there for about 15 i think...
But you know what - None of the leaders had their Brothers HAMMERED by villages like you know who.. With in just a matter of 1 1/2 years after being crowned! :) :)
So why stop at two? :) :)
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 14 Jun 2007 13:45:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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MAGEYCHINTANA,
You agree that both SL and US governments act similarly to curb terrorism except this. Your criticism is that SL Govt resorted to something that US/UK Govt wouldn't do. You said;
When there is no sufficient evidence but a mere speculation, only thing we should have done was to closely monitor these individuals. THIS IS THE POINT WHERE OUR GOVERNMENT DIFFERS FROM WESTERN GOVERNMENTS AS FAR AS HANDLING TERRORISM IS CONCERNED.
MUCHA has already given a reply to this. MUCHA explained;
Mister, when it comes to employing extra-judicial methods, there are no international standards or protocols governing how a country should conduct. Every country goes by their own blend of tactics and no one can argue that SL should do the same things done by US or any other country.
What you suggest is that if SL Govt wants to resort to extra-judicial steps, it has to follow the similar extra-judicial steps US/UK Govt *WOULD DO* or is taking. This is what you say;
When I mentioned the above, I meant that the USA doesn't resort to the kind of thing that our government did recently.
(Disimilarity being what our government did which the USA wouldn't do)
But the reason why this was a big deal for the IC was because we were not playing by the rules that you choose to ignore that have been set by powerful western nations. Obviously if such rules and standards didnt exist, then the IC wouldn't be crying out as much.
MAGEYCHINTANA, your hypothesis is absolutely wrong.
One must be living in a fools paradise to assume that resorting to the same extra-judicial methods taken by western governments will stop those governments crying fowl.
-US/UK declared WAR against terrorism and invaded Iraq and Afganistan. They had/have no desire at all to enter a 'negotiated settlement' with Sadam Hussein or Bin Laden. When we follow their steps and fight against the LTTE, do they keep quiet? Or, do they continually intimidate us demanding to enter a 'negotiated settlement' with the terrorists?
This itself is sufficient for anyone with a rational mind to realize that we following the footsteps of the Western Nations does not stop them crying foul against us.
-Did you ever see any Western Nation cry foul when their air strikes in Iraq killed civilians? Do they keep quiet when our air strike missed the target and killed civilians?
-All these Western Nations kept quiet when Israel bombed Lebonan, including civilians targets, into dust to have *two soldiers* released. Will they keep quiet if we do the same?
-When the British police shot dead an unarmed civilian merely on SUSPICION, were they criticised for not upholding the most revered 'Not Guilty Until Proven Otherwise' principle? What would they do when SL military kills suspected terrorists and later finds out that those were civilians?
-Didn't the USA government nuke Hirosheema & Nagasaki targeting many civilian installations like hospitals, schools, public buildings and private houses? When any other country does the same thing, it becomes a 'war crime'. If SL Govt orders to carpet bomb LTTE held areas, will they keep quiet?
-US/UK through their secret agencies supply funds and weapons to various terrorist groups to fight against the enemies of US/UK. Then why do the cry fowl saying SL Govt is colluding with Karuna?
-Their 'war against terrorism' in Iraq results in killing and abducting many more civilians a day than our war against the LTTE. Have you observed they keeping quiet? Or, do they forget Iraq and issue weekly statements showing 'concerns' on killings and abductions in Sri Lanka, pressurising our government?
Mister, the western nations cry foul against us even when we follow their footsteps. Why? They don't care what steps we follow as long as we work to their agenda. All they care is whether we work to their agenda or not.
Want an example? They were quiet about Saddam Hussein's offences while he was working to their agenda. When Saddam deviated from US/UK agenda, they HANGED him for an offence he did while he was a friend of them!
Your suggestions is that we must not get IC offended. The problem is, unless we work to their agenda, they will find all the reasons to get offended and threaten us by various means. It simply does not matter whether we follow their style to curb terrorism or not.
Unlike Ranil's and CBK governments, which were merely lap dogs of the western nations, the present government has shown that it can defy the western-fed agenda and can work to our agenda. Like this time, US/UK will continue to find faults not because they LOVE Tamils, but because completely defeating the LTTE is not their agenda. Therefore, there is no point in getting unnecessarily agitated and criticising the government like you do.
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14 Jun 2007 14:43:43 GMT Report for Abuse
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Pera:
One more thing - the way i see it, MRs whole political life is in the Hands of RW. :) :). THe Longer RW clings on to the UNP leadership, the longer MR will be presidnet. The moment RW stepts down/Or is kicked out - MRs demise will follow shortly. YOu can only go around fooling people for so long. THe moment there is an opponant who can do the fooling game as well as you can - thats the end of the story.
Remember - a COMPLETE political novice defeated MR TWICE (NOT once) in hambanthota which was representated by MRs family for almost 50 years. The ONLY way MR was able to win Hambanthota was thanks to the JVP.
So im really hoping the next rebellion with the UNP, by people like Ravi K, Tissa, Johnston, Vijira and SB, will do the trick and get RW out. According to you - this is supposed to happen really soon?
After that an SB, or even a film hall usherer like Joseph Micheal or a Renuka Herath, can do the trick. All that is needed is an inherent ability to lie and fool the people (and a little charming smile and a Red towel).
I dont know the inside workings but it seems like Mangala is just marking time. That time is nearing... as Sri ROhana Chamal RajaPASSA found out in Wariyapola!! :) :) |
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14 Jun 2007 14:46:48 GMT Report for Abuse
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ANIZAM,
After that an SB, or even a film hall usherer like Joseph Micheal or a Renuka Herath, can do the trick. ALL THAT IS NEEDED IS AN INHERENT ABILITY TO LIE AND FOOL THE PEOPLE (and a little charming smile and a Red towel).
Why do you want to get another crook who can lie and fool people? You already have MR. There is no benefit for the country by replacing one crook with another. So why not support the crook already in power? ;-)
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14 Jun 2007 15:02:15 GMT Report for Abuse
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Why do you want to get another crook who can lie and fool people? You already have MR. There is no benefit for the country by replacing one crook with another. So why not support the crook already in power? ;-)
First off Almost every politician is a crook and a liar. So we have a vast pool to choose from. But i want to replace MR for three reasons..
1. A Crook and liar with a LITTLE bit of brain would be nice :) :)
2. Wealth Distribution. Im a firm Capatalist and a believer in Free market Competition. Im totally against Monopolies. Accordingly - if srilanka is to be PLUNDERED, then it should not be done by one family. It has to be done by several families. MR and the rajapakshas have plundered the country for 1 1/2 years. NOw let a SB or a JMP, or a Mangala do it for a while????
3. Laast but not least If MR is removed - Gamiya will go WILD on LNP - and what site that would be to watch??? :) :)
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14 Jun 2007 15:58:02 GMT Report for Abuse
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ANIZAM,
1. A Crook and liar with a LITTLE bit of brain would be nice :) :)
A crook with *AN INHERENT ABILITY TO LIE AND FOOL* and a *LITTLE bit of brain* will lie and fool much more better. So there is a increased danger for the country.
2. Wealth Distribution. Im a firm Capatalist and a believer in Free market Competition. Im totally against Monopolies. Accordingly - if srilanka is to be PLUNDERED, then it should not be done by one family. It has to be done by several families. MR and the rajapakshas have plundered the country for 1 1/2 years. NOw let a SB or a JMP, or a Mangala do it for a while????
If a NEW CROOK with *AN INHERENT ABILITY TO LIE AND FOOL* come to power, s/he will start pludering from the begining which is more dangerous to the country. There is no point in replacing a mosquito that is already sucking your blood with a new one. The new mosquito will be more hungry and start from the begening, sucking even more blood.
3. Laast but not least If MR is removed - Gamiya will go WILD on LNP - and what site that would be to watch??? :) :)
None of these has any benefit to the country, isn't it? |
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14 Jun 2007 16:02:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ani,
Look who joined the club all of a sudden. It's Mucha's back-up buddy Mahadana muththa. Pretty lame eh? |
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