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specialforce
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1 Mar 2007 01:54:40 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hello mr berty...hadnt seen you too for sometime...yes the vessel story is true...
but i dont know much about the claim about the stuff on board...its sure that it had ammo for the tigers but i dont know who the navy got the news about SAM's and arti...
i was told that the nay came heavily under fire from the vessel...some navy boats have suffered damages in the gun battle...
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1 Mar 2007 01:55:43 GMT Report for Abuse
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Read my other response - especially about Lord Buddha's discovery. These institutions are in the middle - between the individual and society. At these two levels we are not answerable to anyone but ourselves. But at the middle level we are answerable to all those bound by common laws towards which we get paid benefits.
As far as I know, Buddha's truth is the truth of the Universe....
and there are two truths in this universe according to Buddha'S dharma...
1. Every result has a cause and the cesation of the cause eliminates the result..
2. Nirvana-which does not have a cause, and is just a level of existence/non-existence free of binds...
we are taking about shared truth by a group, according to you...
Edited By - ahmadineja - 1 Mar 2007 02:07:56 GMT |
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1 Mar 2007 01:56:35 GMT Report for Abuse
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Asithri Malli
LTTE's ploy was to take the circuitous route via the southern seas to N as since lately,
Great news..but from where are they taking them?..do they have a warehouse in South..lolz..comeon bro..there are serious security lapse for the vessel to even get that far!!
it is not long ago they had an attack on Galle harbor!! |
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1 Mar 2007 01:59:10 GMT Report for Abuse
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Bery anna ...there was obviously intelligence about the ship...
the route the lktte had taken is quite stealth... |
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1 Mar 2007 01:59:25 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ahmadineja,
When some terrorist supporter is taken into custody and detained in colombo, all the HRW groups judge it based on your degree of Interest....
That is becasue they do not trust the Colombo officials to judge impartially.
and if you guys could take the liberty to judge that based on your share of interests, the gosl and the terrorism fighting forces should have the same degree of liberty to judge the same event based on their share of interests....
They already have it but looks as if they do not recognize it because they are blocked by their desires for unearned benefits.
and when these two opposing two groups do their own reasoning,
That has been their problem - they do not have much in Common and hence they would see the same incident differently.
u can't say that the Human rights of that detained individual is breached.....
Yes it is because the GOSL is responsible for upholding Interantional standards of Due Process. LTTE is not - but International Tamils are. Hence International Governments are strongly relying on International Tamils to bring LTTE under their management. GOSL is so preoccupied with defeating the LTTE militarily to soothe its own ego pain - that it is missing the whole point.
because, considering your own theory, the truth is shared by a group....
If we see the Truth in the same form - then we are a group and we make that form as easily accessible as possible for all in that group. Then we merge with wider society as a group and not as individuals. That is the way of politics. As an individual I would define my expressions differently to when I express as a Tamil. As a Tamil I must represent the common value of Tamils and not just my own but including my own. If the GOSL had made me feel included before the Tigers did - then you would have benefited from my individual work and sacrifices. But God took me to Vanni and I therefore know that I have to include the Tigers in my work. But my work will never hurt any genuine worker / investor.
and when the groups are differently opinionated, truth will become 'group based' too
Truth is universal. Facts are group/individual based - until we merge with the Universe. Truth is God and facts are religions. Truth bound by time and place limits are facts.
love
gaja
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1 Mar 2007 02:00:26 GMT Report for Abuse
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Great news..but from where are they taking them?..do they have a warehouse in South..lolz..comeon bro..there are serious security lapse for the vessel to even get that far!!
Berty (assalam aleikhum),
my guess is the source could be south africa or it could be through red sea where a number of terrorist channels to Somalia are operating with mid sea loading and unloading capabilities...
could be these, only my speculation....
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That is becasue they do not trust the Colombo officials to judge impartially.
They don't have to...can't you remember?? it was you who said judging on shared interests.....
They already have it but looks as if they do not recognize it because they are blocked by their desires for unearned benefits.
They have every right to do so according to your previous arguments....cos they are a different group and they have their own shared interests....
and if you call the colombo's shared interests are less important than the HRW groups' share of interests, well for me that is going against your own opinion....
Edited By - ahmadineja - 1 Mar 2007 02:11:42 GMT |
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Special Force Malli,
I understand that but did they confirm whether it was really a LTTE vessel with artillery etc..U know malli as a normal sri lankan it is hard to believe that when a LTTE vessel with artillery did not fight back.!! if there was 10,000 artilleries as reported and if LTTE knew it (the vessel) is going down, they would have at least fought back!! may be you have a different version but what i read does not make sense..the article also says they have asked the vessel to come to the port..so surely if it was LTTE vessel they know they are in trouble and knowing LTTE they would have taken that chance and gone closer to the land and then fought back..
May be you can tell me more |
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Ahmadineja,
As far as I know, Buddha's truth is the truth of the Universe....
That is the last of Buddha's three main teachings - which as I recall are:
Buddham Saranam Gatchami
Dharmam Saranam Gatchami
Sangm Saranam Gatchami
Buddha started with himself, and said that if you followed in the path of Dharma you merge with society / universe.
Hindus say this as Body, Mind and Soul - that you are the Soul and not your body. Mind is path through which body is led to the soul. Once you realise your soul you automatically feel with the Universe.
and there are two truths in this universe according to Buddha'S dharma...
No. Only One Truth. It looks two - your own and that of the Universe. Facts / Laws / Dharma help you go from one to the other.
1. Every result has a cause and the cesation of the cause eliminates the result..
Some immediately and others over time and space.
2. Nirvana-which does not have a cause, and is just a level of existence/non-existence free of binds...
That is also called Truth / God. At each stage of our life when we remove the material effects of an incident seen through cause or effect - we attain Nirvana at that point in time in that place. When we keep doing it all the time at all places - we attain Nirvana - unbound by laws also. Then you would identify with Truth - anywhere It was realised - even if the environment / person is decribed as corrupt / criminal by groups.
we are taking about shared truth by a group, according to you...
When it is particular to a group - it is a fact / common value and not Universal Truth. Once you remove the limits - the Truth would be visible. It is easier to see this Truth if the group was well regulated.
love
gaja
Edited By - Gaja - 1 Mar 2007 02:24:24 GMT |
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Ahmadineja,
They don't have to...can't you remember?? it was you who said judging on shared interests.....
They do not have to trust but the question is whether you need them to trust you so you would benefit from their intuitive sharing - as if you were a part of their family.
I said
They already have it but looks as if they do not recognize it because they are blocked by their desires for unearned benefits.
You say
They have every right to do so according to your previous arguments....cos they are a different group and they have their own shared interests....
Yes, but they do not have any right over a group that they have separated from themselves. THIS IS WHAT THE TAMILS ARE SCREAMING ABOUT. NO OWNERSHIP NO AUTHORITY OVER US.
and if you call the colombo's shared interests are less important than the HRW groups' share of interests, well for me that is going against your own opinion....
To me one is not more important than the other. If it were, I would not be fighting against HR groups here and their governments.
love
gaja
Edited By - Gaja - 1 Mar 2007 02:31:52 GMT |
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