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22 Feb 2007 04:50:28 GMT Report for Abuse
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RW was servilely criticized by both Prabakaran and Bala. Sometimes up to the extent of naming him as a viper. Someone could argue that LTTE was trying to strengthen RW in his campaign by portraying him as a villain.
But why were north and east people deprived from voting? That is a strategically taken decision. RW may not have won even with those votes. But the LTTE couldn't have guessed that. One thing is clear. LTTE didn't want him come to power. Wonder why?
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22 Feb 2007 04:51:57 GMT Report for Abuse
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What about the rest of my posting? Do you have tamil friends? Have you ever shared a meal with them and talk about their genuine problems?
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If I did not have Tamil friends I would not be wasting my time here. I am a person who shared the room, cooked together and went dating with girls with a Sri Lankan Tamil friend in my youth. As a professional I had worked with Tamils who were colleagues in Sri Lanka, and I rendered my service to Tamil civilian casualties as well as Tamil terrorists . The best teacher in my professional carrier is a Tamil, one of the finest products of mother lanka. When injured Tamil militants were brought to me I did not consider them as terrorists but patients. In UK I helped Tamil doctors to find jobs. In US, five years ago after going through many resumes I offered a position for a Sri Lankan Tamil doctor who was finishing his residency to work in my department even promising that I will sponsor his green card.
Do ethnic harmony and winning the trust of tamils matter to you?
Did Ethnic Harmony matter to those Tamil Intellectuals from Alfred Duraaippa to Kadirgamar and etc, killed by LTTE? Did LTTE kill those Tamil intellectuals to preserve the ethnic harmony? Did Prabhakaran chase every Muslim from Jaffna to preserve ethnic Harmony? Did Neelan Thiruchelvan formulated a comprehensive package of devolution of Power to preserve ethnic harmony or to destroy that? Did LTTE kill Neelan to preserve ethnic harmony of our country or to destroy that. Did UNP under the leader ship of RW burn the devolution package of Neelan to preserve the ethnic harmony or destroy that? Did LTTE kill Dr. Rajini Thirangama to preserve ethnic harmony? Do almost every Tamil member in this forum condone all those killings by LTTE to preserve ethnic harmony or to destroy that?
If Tamil trust is with those who killed Tamil Intellectuals for 30 years, I am on the other side as there will not be any ethnic harmony through Tamil racism, concept of a Tamil Eelam as well as if they think that security of Schizophrenic Prabhakaran is the most important issue in this 3 decades of madness of war.
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22 Feb 2007 04:58:39 GMT Report for Abuse
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Capricon2,
Do you have tamil friends?
Yes, Tamilcanuk is Magha's good friend, though the two sometimes do engage in name calling.
To be fair by Magha, I might say at the time he joined the forum about 1-2 years ago, his opinions were very sensible, moderate and non racist.
I think something happened to him in between. I am not surprised. This forum has so diversified opinions, and it bombarded you with reality so harshly people sometimes find it difficult to cope with. (eg. Ruwani)
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22 Feb 2007 05:09:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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Magha,
Please give me proof that Schizo Prabhakaran and LTTE is for a negotiated settlement for the ethnic issue.
Have you ever learned the following equation either for Physics or Chemistry?
P1V1/T1 = P2V2/T2
When P1 and T1 are changed to P2 and T2 can V1 = V2?
Everyone knows LTTE is more comfortable in the military domain than in the civil domain.
That is why we need to FORCE them to change by changing other parameters of the equation. The only way to end the war is to provide an opportunity for LTTE to GRADUALLY change themselves to a political force. (Like they did in Nepal)
If we dont do that even for another 50 years we will be fighting with LTTE with the country perpetually going backward.
Let me ask a question.
Two years ago did you ever think Schizo Prachanda (Prabha's counterpart in Nepal) was ready to accept a negotiated settlement?
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22 Feb 2007 05:11:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shakti,
Ruling a country and winning an election are two different things.
Exactly! However without wining an election, if someone is thinking of ruling Sri Lanka, that must be similar to what Ravi Karunanayake's uncle tried to do in 60s!
Even Churchill who save the country from Hitler during the World War II lost to Clement Attlee in the next election.
Yes. That is true. However Atlee had a chance to become next prime minister only because Churchill took over from Neville Chamberlain who was similar to Ranil (Oh I forgot, Chamberlain was 'elected' by people) and defeated the 'defeatism' of British forces and took countermeasures to defeat Hitler!
I have no reason to save the skin of RW, who is now basically history but never think the ability to win an election is enough to rule a country.
Perhaps MR knows that better than both of us! Perhaps thats why MR is hoodwinking once RW's able Ministers to the government side?????
Please remember, even Hitler came to power by popular vote. That did not make him a good ruler.
Of course. My argument is, even to become a bad ruler, you have to win elections under the democracy! Otherwise UNP had to go back to Ravi Karunanayake's uncle Jingle Dissanayake's method again!
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22 Feb 2007 05:51:12 GMT Report for Abuse
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Otherwise UNP had to go back to Ravi Karunanayake's uncle Jingle Dissanayake's method again!
Not necessarily. For example MR was never democratically elected but still became the constitutional leader.
According to election law in Sri Lanka, if there is a forced attempt of preventing anyone from voting the Election Commissioner must declare the result of the relevant stations null and void and have a re-election.
Why he did not have is the million dollar question.
Two more points.
1. Jungle Dissanayake was Ravi K's maternal grandfather, not uncle.
2. If RW had won the Presidential election in 2005, by this time we would have seen half of SLFPers in his cabinet. (and it would have been a similar jumbo cabinet, no doubt)
These things happen because of the system, and not because of individuals.
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22 Feb 2007 05:59:37 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shakti,
Thanks for correcting me in Jingle and RaviK's relationship
If RW had won the Presidential election in 2005, by this time we would have seen half of SLFPers in his cabinet. (and it would have been a similar jumbo cabinet, no doubt)
I doubt it. If RanilW had won the election, he would have dissolved the parliament and gone for an election rather than getting SLFP guys to his side. Do not forget that even during the time of Pres elections, Ranil was not happy with the guys crossed over to UNP from SLFP in 2001 or so.
Same time, though MR could get some guys from UNP to the government side to run the show efficiently, which person in SLFP side could HELP Ranil to run the government effciently?? (Di Mu Jayaratne perhaps???)
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22 Feb 2007 06:06:23 GMT Report for Abuse
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Pera,
Under the proportional representative system and with JVP eating 10%, TNA eating 10% and SLMC eating 6-7% it is extremely difficult for any party to gain a majority in the parliament.
It would have been the same even if RW dissolved the parliament and gone for an election.
So irrespective of whether it is MR or RW, there is no other way of ensuring majority in the parliament without bating few from the other side.
From the point of view of politicos it is always to be a powerful Minister rather than a backbencher of the opposition.
So even if RW won we would have had more or less the same cabinet of today.
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22 Feb 2007 06:09:42 GMT Report for Abuse
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Pera again,
Thanks for correcting me in Jingle and RaviK's relationship
Sometime back I worked with the grandson of a prominent player of that coup. So I learnt many interesting inside information.
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22 Feb 2007 06:18:25 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shakti,
Under the proportional representative system and with JVP eating 10%, TNA eating 10% and SLMC eating 6-7% it is extremely difficult for any party to gain a majority in the parliament.
What you say may be true.
However I feel the scenario would have been different ..
RanilW being RanilW, will take some people who could be arrested legally because of their previous acts in to custody. That would be the end of JVP. Most of the prominent SLFP candidates also will be 'not in a position' to contest. Then UNP will go for a kill (of course along with Thondi and SLMP, remember Mangala orchestrating Kumarai Cooray Saga against Rauf???)
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