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TNA invited to `help liberate Tamils`
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Moby1975 Senior Member
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4 Feb 2007 18:03:41 GMT Report for Abuse
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| Hey Siva how's your french speaking wife? Faked again today also? YOu lit up afterwards, like the all conquering hero? |
Imperator Senior Member
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4 Feb 2007 18:04:25 GMT Report for Abuse
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Moby,
Hahahahahahaha!
Sivag99's just had his Sunday shag
Happy INDEPENDENCE Day, Siva! ;-) |
Saint Senior Member
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4 Feb 2007 18:06:15 GMT Report for Abuse
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Cont...
Moby Bro,
I am trying here everything to get a bailout.
If you have an idea, which will help me to get my soft place out of this confused situation it will be a great help
:-) Edited By - Saint - 4 Feb 2007 18:10:17 GMT |
Kusum
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4 Feb 2007 18:07:26 GMT Report for Abuse
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Most TNA Parlimentarians are puputs of tigers. They stole elections by terrorism.
LTTE has killed off all good Tamil Polititians and replaced them with a bunch morons who would betray anything to stay in parliament
They all deserve to die along with pirubakaran |
Moby1975 Senior Member
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4 Feb 2007 18:08:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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| Sivag, chill bro, all are mentoring little Pharaoh here about the ways of life in SL. Did you stay up wathcing the Independence celebrations? Cranky in the morning? |
Thambi Senior Member
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4 Feb 2007 18:11:01 GMT Report for Abuse
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SunDog bro
there is no question , theses acts should be condemned . but try to move from 1983 .how many centuries you are going to live with 1983.
well we need JUSTICE , CRIME is CRIME the culprit should be PUNISHED , past is past also the same past should be used as the CASE STUDY too , there is no GUARANTEE the past would not get repeat , so we need to make the TAMIL ARMY strong for the well being of Tamils and to protect from snahla racism or genocides (i am not going to put the 21 links here ).
by the way how many people killed by LTTE after 1983 . I am not going to list them here as you did . you can get comprehensive list from SPUR if you need . so please don't just waste space here by cut and pasting from eelam sites . just refer them.another thing be polite to the people when talking . don't be a child . grown up !! :):)
you could list it , it will be a one page or maximum of TWO , but if i do the same killed by SINHALA RACIST and RAPIST army , we need books to fill up the lists , infact its not 100 or 1000 but they all above 100,000 .
waht is happening is the side effect of the past , until justice delivered or we feel that we are secure , the fight for freedom and the strengthening the tamil army should continue as PRIORITY NUMBER 1 , the only way to make the peace prevail in the county to make the balance of military power between Tamils and Sinhalese , YOUr government is begging the ic for money and selling the children as well as the women to foreigners , you have to grow up to understand the current ethnic conflict and corrupted selfish politics to keep the county on development path than living in destructive and no future .
Note;
the politician will get settled well in a western country , that guaranty is 200% . |
Thivya Senior Member
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4 Feb 2007 18:12:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kandyans Urged for Three FEDERAL STATES in 1928 and 1948
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LAKSHMAN KIRIELLA (M.P.- Kandy District)
(LeN-2006 Dec 21, 1.00pm - Feature) After years of colonial rule, when Sri Lanka was on the way to constitutional reform, the Donoughmore Commission was set up by the British Government in 1928 and several representations were made to the Donoughmore Commission. The most liberal and far-sighted memorandum was sent to the Commissioners by the Kandyan leaders at that time.
They pointed out to the Commissioners that for nearly hundreds of years before the coming of the Portuguese, Sri Lanka was divided into three Kingdoms of Ruhunu, Maya and Pihiti and if the British were to depart at a particular time, they should create three self-government areas comprising:
1. The Northern and Eastern provinces in which the Tamils predominate
2. The Kandyan provinces
3. The Southern and Western provinces peopled mainly by low-country Sinhalese.
Granted
Each of these three communities would thus be granted a government of its own, the Kandyans would preserve their national identity and would no longer be in danger of being sacrificed to the pressure from the South and North. For purposes affecting the welfare of the entire island, these three governments would be united in a federal government, thus ensuring that no one section would be in a position to dominate the others.
It is our duty to mention at this moment, the names of the delegates who represented the Kandyan community at that time. They were: J.H. Meedeniya Adigar (Leader), B.B. Nugawela Dissawa, J.C. Ratwatte Dissawa, T.B. Panabokka, J.A. Halangoda, A. Godamunne, A.W. Mediwaka, U.B. Dolapihilla, N.B. Galagoda, L.B. Girihagama, W. Talgodapitiya, T.B.L. Moonemalle, G.E. Madawala, F.D. Dissanayake, K.B. Beddewala, Roland Tennekoon, A.T.W. Marambe, Dr. T.B. Kobbekaduwa, P.B. Dolaphilla and W. Gopallawa.
They suggested that a federal form of government should be formed in Sri Lanka with the centre holding such important issues like foreign policy, defence and other key issues that they feel should be kept with the centre. This point of view was strongly urged by the Kandyan leaders, but the Commissioners rejected the memorandum of the Kandyan leaders.
Just before independence in 1948, the Soulbury Commission came to Sri Lanka. The Kandyan leaders made a similar claim of the creation of three self-governing Federal Regional Councils, but this request too was turned down. In retrospect, if this was done and if devolution was granted at the point of independence, like in India, we would not face the present unfortunate situation in our country.
The Commissioners held 'The arguments of the Kandyan leaders were compelling and historically accurate'. However due to pressure from Western Educated Colombo leaders who did not want to share power the Commissioners rejected the memorandum of the Kandyan leaders.
Period
The 1947-1948 period was the best hour for devolution as there was extreme cordiality between all communities in Sri Lanka and a strong mediator in Britain.
The representatives to the Soulbury Commission were: M.B. Panabokke, B.H. Aluwihare, P. Dolapihilla, H.K. Keerthiratne, V.C. Udalagama, H. Ratwatte, Halangoda, H.W. Mediwake, A.E. Illukkumbura, J.A. Dhanapala, G.C. Leelaratne, U.B. Kulatunga, H.B. Kirimetiyawa, Rajakaruna Vedamahathmaya, H. Sunderasekera.
Though the Kandyan demand for self-government has died down, the Tamil demand persisted, resulting in the unfortunate situation in our country.
If power was devolved like in India at the point of independence the situation in this country would have been totally different. The Kandyan leaders were called backward and living in the past, but in retrospect if the suggestions of the Kandyan leaders were accepted the unfortunate situation in this country would have been totally avoided. They were the first leaders in Sri Lanka to speak of devolution openly, keeping in mind the historical kingdoms that existed before the coming of the colonial rulers. They were futuristic and far ahead of their time in thinking.
Indian experience
After years of colonial rule, in 1947, when India was granted independence, a new constitution was drafted. The patriotic Indian rulers who were poised to be rulers of that country after independence were conscious of the historic diversity that existed before the coming of the British. They realised that once the British departed, unless power was shared by the centre with periphery, the old feuds, difference between the old kingdoms would once again surface. New Indian states were created more or less out of the ancient kingdoms and devolved a great deal of autonomy to these states. The centre keeping foreign affairs and defence brought policy and other key issues.
For example, though the national language of India is Hindi, the respective states were granted the liberty to use their own languages in the day-to-day affairs of the respective states. Imagine what would be the situation if Indian rulers tried to force Hindi on all the states of the Indian Union. The situation would have been chaotic. So today after 50 years of Indian independence we have a situation where persons from Tamil Nadu, Gujarat, West Bengalore proud to call themselves Indian first with a strong sense of Indian identity. The cultural, religious and language rights are safeguarded in the respective states. At the same time they consider themselves a part of a great Indian nation.
Rulers at the point of independence were generous enough to share power with the respective states rather than attempt to keep all the power selfishly in Delhi. If this was not done, there would have been friction within a short time after independence which would have led to the disintegration of the Indian Union.
Sri Lankan experience
When the Portuguese came to Sri Lanka in 1505, the situation in Ceylon was very similar to the situation in India when the British arrived there. Just like India, in Sri Lanka too there were several kingdoms. Dr. (Mrs.) Lorna Devaraja who is a well-known historian, in her book 'The Kandyan Kingdom', mentions that when the Portuguese first came to Sri Lanka in the beginning of the 16th century there were three kingdoms of varying politics and economic importance in the island. Foremost was the kingdom of Kotte occupying the west and the south west of the island, whose king claimed a nominal overlordship over the whole of Sri Lanka.
A separate dynasty was ruling in Kandy having broken away from the authority of the Kotte King. The founder of this dynasty was, according to tradition, Senasammata Vikramabahu who ruled from C. 1474-1311. Ever since the middle of the thirteenth century there had also been an independent Tamil king in Jaffna. This view was supported by all leading historians.
So in Sri Lanka like in India there were basically three kingdoms when the Portuguese came. The Mahawamsa confirms this position by stating that from ancient times, Sri Lanka was divided into three kingdoms Ruhunu, Maya and Pihiti. Three treaties were signed by the respective rulers of these kingdoms with the foreign invaders. There was the Nallur convention by which King Sangili ceded the kingdom of Jaffna to the Portuguese.
Then there was a Malwana convention whereby the low country were ceded to the Dutch. Then finally, the convention by which the Kandyan territory was ceded to the British. Further proof of the existence of the three kingdoms is again a system of laws prevailing in the three regions.
In Jaffna the Thesa Walamai Law operates. In the low country the Roman Dutch Law operates and in the Kandyan areas Kandyan Law operates. So it is well established that in Sri Lanka, there were three kingdoms for a very long period of time confirmed by the three treaties and also the three personal laws applicable to the respective areas. It is on this basis that the Kandyan leaders made their observations in 1928 and 1947.
If devolution of power was done at independence Sri Lanka would have been spared the present crisis.
Genuine devolution is 50 years late. |
Thambi Senior Member
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4 Feb 2007 18:13:26 GMT Report for Abuse
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Sundog
prove this
and if you are going to label me as a racist because I am die Hard anti -LTTE then go ahead and do it . you can't change my stand even by a .000001 inch being a anti-LTTE.
correction anti ltter is wrong he is ANTI-TAMIL .
dog tail :)) Edited By - Thambi - 4 Feb 2007 18:13:50 GMT |
Moby1975 Senior Member
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4 Feb 2007 18:15:21 GMT Report for Abuse
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you could list it , it will be a one page or maximum of TWO , but if i do the same killed by SINHALA RACIST and RAPIST army , we need books to fill up the lists , infact its not 100 or 1000 but they all above 100,000 .
I tell you, these people need help, and fast. |
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