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I am not worried of the aircrafts damaged, says Sri Lanka President
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nirupam Senior Member
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27 Oct 2007 14:02:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dumindak,
You can create stories about what Tamils do to Tamils, because these stories are juicy. All we are worried is what Sinhalese do to Tamils.
If Tamils are scared of LTTE why don't you trust them and give the right to self determination? If they fear LTTE they will vote for Sinhalese Rajapakses and the problem is resolved once and for all.
Tamils have to keep on coming to Colombo for many things, say, for example to apply for a passport, to get Police Permit to leave the country, to get their lost ID cards and so on. That's why LTTE ask for a devolved legislature so that these things can be done in Jaffna or Batticaloa instead of wasting time and money and fear for our lives. |
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28 Oct 2007 02:52:45 GMT Report for Abuse
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Of cause !! buy some more second hand machines?.
nada, there is a saying 'let the cat made out of clay as far as it catches mice'
Let it be Second hand or fifth hand as far as it can kill our enemy and spray bombs in North.
We are the people that should worry about 40-50% going to their pocket. Why you?
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dumindak Senior Member
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28 Oct 2007 05:34:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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Nirupam
If tamils want passport office or police report place in North and East, GoSL is bound to provide.
Why LTTE is fighting for so long with so much destructions just for these minor matters?
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nirupam Senior Member
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28 Oct 2007 05:51:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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Duminsdak,
Why LTTE is fighting for so long with so much destructions just for these minor matters?
In answer to question why Tamils keep on coming to Colombo I gave you some of the reasons.
LTTE did not start fighting. When the SL army attacked peaceful protesters against Sinhala Only, LTTE was not even founded. When major anti-Tamil riots was organised by JR and Sinhala Buddhist monks in 1958 Prabakaran was 3 1/2 years old. Do you think he started the fight?
LTTE is the answer to Sinhala extremism and high handedness. What will you lose if the minorities are allowed to govern themselves? Have you ever looked at Canada or Switzerland? They proper by accommodating minorities, why do Sinhala Buddhists make so much fuss and damage to oppose Tamils or Muslims having a legislature to administer themselves?
LTTE can be brought into democratic stream like IRA in the UK and stop killing each other. We can jointly build the country instead of tearing it it apart. We need a good leader in Colombo, no point in attacking LTTE which, with all its weaknesses and shortfalls, is the only group that stands for Tamils.
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dumindak Senior Member
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28 Oct 2007 06:55:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Nirupam
There was no question of sharing power or there was no demand to share powers even in the history. The only question we had and still we are having is terrorism.
There is a terror group bombing and blowing up the country, killing thousands of innocent men, women, and children. And the solution should be to nutralize it by whatever means the government has.
As long as LTTE is there, we will go back to zero level of tolarance, by tamils and by sinhalese alike, and it gives the government, majority of its people, and international community an oppertunity not to grant any concessions for tamils.
So the biggest barrior for a reasonable solution is the existance of LTTE and this has been understood by GOSL, its people and International community as a whole. If you want LTTE to be a dominant force then you have to live with the consequence of not having any priveledges of your choice, or else you have to stop supporting LTTE and enjoy your priveledges.
What GOSL, together with Internationa community,is doing is to destroy LTTE and create an enviornment where a reasonable solution can be given to tamil speaking people along the provincial councils.
Dont think sinhala people are against any solution for tamils. We see tamils are suffering from LTTE hundred times worse than sinhalese and muslims. That is why you dont see riots against tamils after 1983 even thogh LTTE carried out so many sinhala massacres expecting backlash against tamils. We feel that tamils should be given what they expect, but existance of LTTE has become the real barrior to provide a reasonable solution.
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nirupam Senior Member
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28 Oct 2007 08:16:46 GMT Report for Abuse
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Duminsdak,
There was no question of sharing power or there was no demand to share powers even in the history. The only question we had and still we are having is terrorism.
Your arrogance of Sinhala supremacy and ignorance of minority rights pops up all through. Our democratic leaders compromised to resolve the problem peacefully and signed 2 agreements which were wrecked by anti-Tamil riots. We are not going to be at your mercy again, we have learnt enough, no going back on the same circle.
As long as LTTE is there, we will go back to zero level of tolarance,
You will realize this is tantamount to suicidal but because you are abroad untouched.
If you want LTTE to be a dominant force then you have to live with the consequence of not having any priveledges of your choice, or else you have to stop supporting LTTE and enjoy your priveledges.
This is a threat, we are not going to be bullied around any more.
GOSL, together with Internationa community,is doing is to destroy LTTE
This is your wishful day dream.
a reasonable solution can be given to Tamil speaking people along the provincial councils.
Was it similar to Northeast PC given in 1987 and the Chief Minister found that he could not implement any project and declared UDI of Eelam and sought refuge in India. Half-baked solutions yield half-baked seeni buns that children like to eat, some adults also like but won't satisfy the hunger.
Dont think sinhala people are against any solution for tamils. We see tamils are suffering from LTTE hundred times
That explains why Rajapakse & Bro stopped food lorries reaching the North. When the flood level is above the head doesn?t matter about the depth either we have to swim or get drowned.
Edited By - nirupam - 28 Oct 2007 08:19:19 GMT |
dumindak Senior Member
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28 Oct 2007 08:37:51 GMT Report for Abuse
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Nirupam
There was no question of sharing power or there was no demand to share powers even in the history. The only question we had and still we are having is terrorism
Your arrogance of Sinhala supremacy and ignorance of minority rights pops up all through.
I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I wanted to emphasise that there was no request from tamils side to share powers since 1977, and not we are not willing to share powers with tamils.
So without seeing a request how can a government go ahead and devolve powers.
so the question of sharing powers never arose for last 30 years. what we were seeing was a complete destruction for the sake of a separate country.
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Thambi Senior Member
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28 Oct 2007 08:43:37 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dumindak
you cannot simply say GoSL fighting terrorist to sideline the issue ' ONE MAN'S TERRORIST IS ANOTHER MAN'S FREEDOM FIGHTER ' , you accept LTTE as the sole rep for TAMILS but the world do .
US Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton this week urged a more nuanced approach to armed non-state actors !
'Well, I believe that terrorism is a tool that has been utilized throughout history to achieve certain objectives. Some have been ideological, others territorial. There are personality-driven terroristic objectives.'
'The bottom line is, you can't lump all terrorists together. And I think we've got to do a much better job of clarifying what are the motivations, the raisons d'être of terrorists.'
'I mean, what the Tamil Tigers are fighting for in Sri Lanka, or the Basque separatists in Spain, or the insurgents in al-Anbar province may only be connected by tactics. They may not share all that much in terms of what is the philosophical or ideological underpinning.'
US ambassador Robert Blake told the Sri Lanka Development Forum .
The US Monday asked Sri Lanka to weave a power-sharing formula to talk to the Tamil Tigers in a bid to end the dragging ethnic conflict, saying there could be no military solution.
'We hope Sri Lanka will seize the opportunity to forge a power-sharing proposal that can form the basis for talks with the LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) that could finally bring an end to (the) conflict'
how to stop the killing of innocent tamils ? most tamils reflect Chandra boss thinking as we all witness GoSL state terror .
Dr. Chandra Bose - open letter
it was only after the LTTE devastating attack on the Katunyake airport that the Sri Lankan state was brought to its knees and subsequently agreed to the Norwegian brokered ceasefire in 2002. Whether the next round of peace talks will materialize or not, it not important for the LTTE. What is important is for the leadership to reduce the killings of innocent Tamils, and this could only be done not by appealing to the opportunistic and irresponsible international community, but by undertaking swift and strategic operations. Unless this is done, more and more Tamils are going to be targeted and bumped of.
F.Y.I - dollars mean business , for GoSL money talk more than anything !
ANURADHAPURA LOSSES WORSE THAN KATUNAYAKE?S - Athas Sat, 27 Oct 2007, 21:24 GMT
Destroyed SLAF craft two dozen aircraft of the Sri Lanka Air Force (SLAF) were destroyed or damaged when Black Tiger commandos stormed the Anudradhapura airbase in the early hours last Monday, the Sunday Times reports. Ten aircraft were completely destroyed while fourteen others were damaged, some beyond repair, the paper?s defense correspondent, Iqbal Athas, said in his column this week. All but three of the 27 aircraft in the base were destroyed or damaged, the paper said, publishing pictures of incinerated aircraft on the runway and in the hanger. |
Thambi Senior Member
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28 Oct 2007 09:20:34 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dumindak
I wanted to emphasise that there was no request from tamils side to share powers since 1977, and not we are not willing to share powers with tamils.
So without seeing a request how can a government go ahead and devolve powers.
so the question of sharing powers never arose for last 30 years. what we were seeing was a complete destruction for the sake of a separate country. Tamils were relegated to the backwoods by the governments, by not protecting their rights in their country of birth. The majority ruled the country since 1948. Therefore, they have to blame themselves if they handled the government improperly.There was a coup in 1958 and an uprising in the early 70s.The growing repression led to increased Tamil nationalist sentiment. In 1977, the Tamil United Liberation Front won 17 seats in Sri Lanka?s parliament on a platform of Tamil self-determination.Repression of peaceful protests led many Tamil youth to turn to violent methods. The LTTE was formed in 1972 and carried out its first major armed action in 1978. After the 1983 pogrom, the LTTE gained increased support from the Tamil community and dramatically stepped up its war against the SLA.why should tamil look for power shar with sate who failed to protec them ? dont you feel a seperate state is a better choice ? |
nirupam Senior Member
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28 Oct 2007 09:25:21 GMT Report for Abuse
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Duminsdak,
I wanted to emphasise that there was no request from tamils side to share powers since 1977, and not we are not willing to share powers with tamils.
Because of disollusionment TULF mandated for Eelam in 1977.
In 1977 Mr Amirthalingam was the opposition leader and then president JR amended the law and kept the Opposition leader out of the parliament. In 77 too Cyril mathew and JR unleased thugs on Tamils to slaughter them.
Amirthalingam compromised with Distrct Development Council in 1981 to share power, but, JR did not devolve power, for example DC approved planning permissiins to build houses in North and East. We don't want the SL president to set up DCs to sort out planning permissions.
Amir's life was compromised for the betrayal. JR proscribed LTTE in 1987 and sent army to the North to wipe out LTTE, the task still unfinished.
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