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Shakti
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15 Sep 2006 05:41:11 GMT Report for Abuse
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Fairplay,
I am glad that the LTTE has been EFFECTIVE in bringing GOSL to a RESPONSIVE MENTALITY. Tamil politicians like Mr.Anandasangaree's assertion in the parliament FELL ON DEAF EARS, for years and years.
Cant say I agree with you. You try to build a theory, but it is flawed.
LTTE has not made GOSL responsive any more than Tamil politicians prior to 1976.
IF you think GOSL is more responsive today (I underline the IF, especially if you consider the present MR govt.) it is largely because of the power of globalization than anything lese.
Prior to 1970s we lived in a closed small world of our own, so international community has less say. Today, the international community has definitely a more say in our affairs than it was in the pre-1970 era.
There has always been a group of Sinhalese who supported power sharing with Tamils. That was not because they were pressurized by LTTE, but because they, unlike the racists realized the need and fairness in doing that. LTTE or war has nothing to do with their principles.
Perhaps the only recent addition to this group was Ranil Wickremasinghe and his UNP. Ranil too was pressurized NOT because of LTTE, but internationally because the existence of war was against his idea of promoting the market economy.
So if you think GOSL has become responsive (BIG IF) thank the globalization and market economy than anything else.
My theory is the same (or something better) could have been achieved through democratic means too. (Myself, Kula and Mahinder had a lengthy argument with Tigress19 on this few days back.) |
Shakti
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15 Sep 2006 09:52:29 GMT Report for Abuse
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This is what the site of Sri Lankan Army, www.army.lk tells about JVP.
The JVP uprising was in full swing after the signing of the peace accord. They used the presence of the IPKF to justify their armed action to topple the Government. They also forced service personnel to quit their jobs by issuing death threats. There were instances where entire families of the soldiers were slaughtered when instructions of the JVP were not complied with.
However except for a very few the brave soldiers never succumbed to the JVP threats. There were instances where the entire government machinery came to a standstill as essential services were totally crippled.It is worth mentioning that it was the loyal soldiers of the Sri Lanka Army who stood by the country in the hour of need.
By the end of 1989, the situation was totally brought under control as most of the JVP leadership were put out of action. At this stage, the Government was holding peace talks with the LTTE.
Source: http://www.army.lk/operations01.php?take=20
THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN THOUSAND MANEL MALS FOR TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE JVP. |
JRJayawardena
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15 Sep 2006 11:23:41 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shakti,
It is nice to read your posts and let me ask you a small question.
Are you Naleen?
I'm sure when I was reading Naleen's posts I saw similar lines in yours. If you are unable to say that then I understand why.
JRJ |
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15 Sep 2006 12:12:49 GMT Report for Abuse
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=so if you don't support either party and you say actions of GOSL doesn't bother you why bother even commenting on the ethnic issue =
You are getting it wrong my dear,
I don't want to support Political party, that mean I'm not blue,green or red, but I am a citizen of Sri Lanka, and I have my rights & freedom,so as we get rid of JVP insurrection, we must get rid of LDTE soon, because this is taking the country back wards,look at JVP now! how powerful they are and also have look at Muslim Congress and Tondaman's Tamil party, they are enjoying much more privileges than the Sinhalese politicians,they are in each and every government because of their power of unity!! so why cant LDTE join the democratic political circle and help their people by demanding things from the Treasury using their power!! rather than killing,disturbing and destroying public properties and the people of Sri Lanka.
but they don't want to do that because they don't want to let ordinary Tamils to go to university or to be prosperous and Donkeys and monkeys are conscripting children of their own to carry out terrorist activities and so call Tamil diaspora are funding to genocide their own poor low cast families and children to fulfill their blood thirsty, sham on you shame on you,
Edited By - 3forces - 15 Sep 2006 12:27:17 GMT |
tamilcanuck
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15 Sep 2006 13:43:16 GMT Report for Abuse
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There has always been a group of Sinhalese who supported power sharing with Tamils.
agree with this but this was a MINORITY and couldnt get anything done. so for the majority to act what Fairplay said applies. you need Global pressure since the pressure is being applied to ONE side only at this VERY moment. |
Sandman
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15 Sep 2006 15:43:08 GMT Report for Abuse
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BiCubic ; the reason is that the JVP and similar fringe groups had a common beginning, and a lot of shared experiencs with insurgent groups of the 1070's.
The JVP is anti-LTTE, but not necessarily anti-tamil, though the gooks try to say otherwise. |
vimukthi
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15 Sep 2006 17:26:27 GMT Report for Abuse
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Sandman, why must you display your ignorance by using words like 'gooks' on this forum. Do you know that 'gooks' was the term used by the US occupiers in Vietnam when they were carrying out a genocidal war of extermination against a colonized people seeking their freedom? Have some self respect man. Unfortunately to many western racists you too would be a 'gook', if not worse.
Edited By - vimukthi - 15 Sep 2006 17:51:14 GMT |
vimukthi
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15 Sep 2006 17:40:21 GMT Report for Abuse
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The JVP has suffered a similar fate to the old left parties like the LSSP before them.
The biggest question for the left in SL has been the Tamil national question.
The LSSP at one time maintained a true working class approach that sought to offer equal rights to the Tamil people in a united struggle for a socialist Lanka.
However the pressures of parliamentary 'cretinism' as Lenin once called it caused the LSSP to shift its position on language rights and full equality. That was the end of the LSSP as a proleterian party. After that it was just another baby pig suckling on the teats of the Sinhala bourgeois nationalist SLFP.
This is the same thing that has happened to the JVP. They too are no longer a proleterian party. They too are now suckling on the teats of the capitalist SLFP to maintain and grow their parliamentary power.
ALthough I don't know if they ever had a truly marxist, proleterain position on the Tamil national question but certainly today even though they may not have physically killed any Tamil civilians the policies that they are promoting in supporting the genocial actions of the corrupt State in aerial bombing and shelling Tamil villages and supporting the US/Israeli policy of 'collective punishment' they are most certainly a racist party.
The term fascist is hard to apply because fascism technically is a phenomenon only possible in advanced capitalist countries. But to loosely use the term, they are most certainly fascistic. |
vimukthi
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15 Sep 2006 18:05:50 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shakti, you wrote
So if you think GOSL has become responsive (BIG IF) thank the globalization and market economy than anything else.
I agree with this.
My theory is the same (or something better) could have been achieved through democratic means too.
I'm not so sure about this. Tamil parties in parliament were trying for decades to highlight the grievance of Tamil speakers. This was only met with more discriminatory legislation in parliament and more brutality on the streets. The LTTE is very much a product of the lack of democracy in SL politics.
Overall your point in raising the GOLS in the world context is critically important. The racist gemba's who hop behind the racist GOSL's policies thinking that they are patriotic and all that is really a pathetic sight.
The GOSL is nothing but an appendage of the imperialist powers. Nothing of significance is done in govt policy without the approval, direct or indirect, of the so-called IC powers.
This is why the LTTE is also quite pathetic in expecting the IC to support their cause against the GOSL. Their whole strategy became shipwrecked in expecting the IC to be neutral or to support them.
The IC will support the GOSL or the LTTE as it best suits their needs - or the needs of capitalist globalization - period.
The gemba's croaking for each others blood thinking they are patriots and nationalists may one day evolve into humans and realize that they have been taken for a long ride. |
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15 Sep 2006 19:22:39 GMT Report for Abuse
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Sandman,
The JVP is anti-LTTE,not necessarily anti-tamil.
The Jvp is anti-LTTE because of the fact that, it is out and out anti-tamil.
This rabid racist,facist and downright opportunist,JVP thugs, have been advocating and instigating the genocide of tamil race by imposing economic blokade and preventing medical intervention for the injured tamil civilions who were the victims of indicriminate bombing and bombardement by the sinhala state terrorist security forces.And you ,plonka coming and saying this fibs-you are really a sad and sick man.
EELAN. |
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