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Tamil Rehabilitation Organisation to appeal High Court ruling
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tamilcanuck
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11 Sep 2006 13:57:46 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Chandana24,

althoughb its a good suggestion its a bit too late i would think.

this is where i think India progressed a bit better. they kept english as the prime language where lanka went in the complete opposite way.

I wouldve proposed a MIXED CO ed school and if you graduate with a GF from another ethnic background you automatically qualify for a MAHAPOLA scholarship.

Lets get our priorities straight. lets find the girl who we want to spend the rest of lives together and THEN figure out how we are gonna support the family. :):)
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11 Sep 2006 14:13:44 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Chandana24,

the above example wont work in the long run because the couple still has to go out and look for work which might be problematic because of the mistrust etc between the communities.

here is a radical solution!!

eliminate pretty much everyone over the age of say 10 or so. a new gen without any prejudice might grow up and live peacefully.

I think we are kind of past the point of no return now. i hope i'm wrong here!!
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11 Sep 2006 14:52:56 GMT  Report for Abuse   
i mean wat is the diff between tamils and sinhaleese its just a gap created buy a group of old scavengers called politikkos in the past and it has aggravated so much....
look our cultures re so similar...and wat re we doing.....


very true chandan24,

to give you a bit of history. for the last 50 odd yrs there has been 2 main parties in power. in order to stay in power they tend to use the ETHNIC conflict and have raised a couple of generations with this mindset.

Its a monumental task to overcome what has been going on for yrs.


but how do you overcome the mindset. I have sinhalese friends to (from my childhood) but one thing we dont discuss is the political situation since its a lot of aggravation for nothing.

i suspect a lot of folks do this to avoid conflicts.
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11 Sep 2006 17:06:11 GMT  Report for Abuse   
and i belive one fine day wen the war is over...the real problem starts....then....
the youth in the north... wat re they going to do.... poverty...
where do they earn a living from...now they dont realize becasue they get the food they fight...but wats da future...


if and wehn the WAR is stopped this is when the DIASPORA will step in. we collectively have provided a lot of help but there are MANY who are not willing to relocate or move any further because of the uncertianty.

how the tamils reacted after the Tsunami was a very clear signal how we will respond in time of need
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12 Sep 2006 00:52:47 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Sk63,

I must admit, I dont always understand your points/posts not because of your fault but largely because I am just a GCE O/L qualified very simple average (hopefully) or below average (more likely) man.


You understand my core message better than many others in and outside this forum. Wisdom comes with Practice of what we believe in.

You say
It is late in the night in North America but I thought before I go to sleep, to respond to one of your latest posts here.


Thank you deeply for valuing my work enough to do this.

You say
This is related to your suggestion that the GOVERNMENT NEEDS TAMILS IN THE LEADERSHIP (Gaja, I kept Caps on to highlight your sentiments).

I am sure this was an over sight on your part.


No sk63, it was not an oversight. I meant real and independent Tamil leadership within Sri Lankan government.

You say
But the government actually did have and still have Tamils in their team and in the leadership. Most of them were actually killed by the LTTE (e.g. Mr Kadirgamar, and Neelan Thiru)! Mr. Anandasangaree and Devananda (whom I personally dont even like) are very much in the list to be killed.


I do not know about others but I do feel very pained that Neelan was killed. But I believe also that due to interaction with people like me, the Tigers have changed from who they were then to who they are now. We therefore must bring those matters to a closure and take the principles which benefit all of us. After all, the Sinhalese did not abandon Buddha because a Buddhist monk killed SWRD - nor Hindus the Hindu leadership when a Hindu killed Ghandi.

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This appears to be the plight of Tamil leaders who are invited to play a role in governance. Gaja, while your suggestion to have Tamils in the governance is indeed appreciated, they have to face this small matter of getting killed by the LTTE.


I agree that only those who are independent of the Tigers or any form of violence against the State could succeed to such leadership. But the Committee for Peace is not even looking for such leadership. Instead they are being led by either and / or both sides. The Committee for Peace must be independent of any material outcomes from this process. Likewise any Tamil who goes into governance in Sri Lanka. Then Peace will flow naturally through that person for Tamils. Such a person would not fear death from either side - for such a person would rely on the Higher Powers to potect him. None of the above personalities fit fulfil these criteria. If one is not able to find an individual like that - one needs to find an organisation like that. TRO could have been helped towards this - but the government damaged it unjustly and SLMM seems to have not done much about this.

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I dont know mr. Kadirgamar but I am not sure if the LTTE can make god's decisions such as when to take someone's life away. But I know Neelan Thiru who is as passionate as any decent Tamil man about his community. He was killed because he was a part of Chandrika B's government. He was indeed included at the leadership level as you aspire, but was eliminbated by the LTTE.


Every Hindu solider who works for a negotiated settlement and believes that negotiations have failed to deliver Dharmic outcomes has the authority of God to use weapons. I see no such authority in Christianity even though Western governments use armed forces to punish and kill. Lord Kirshna showed us the path to weapon based fight for independence to uphold Dharma. Neither Buddha nor Christ did that. Hence we ARE different.

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I dont know if I made my point clear Gaja. All I wanted to bring to your notice is that when Tamils are included at the leadership level, they get eliminated by those who claim to protect the Tamils.


You have made a very caring observation from which every Tiger leader would learn about the loss flowing from their hasty actions. But this does not mean that the leadership of Tamils in Sri Lanka comes to an end. It will just take a more independent path which has been facilitated largely by the Tigers. Otherwise those leaders would have gone more in Commercial directions.

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Gaja, I hope you and your family is doing well.


Yes, thank you and I pray the same for you and your family

love
gaja
Edited By - Gaja - 12 Sep 2006 01:10:36 GMT
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12 Sep 2006 03:28:01 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Dear Gaja,

Many thanks for your comments. It is refreshing to note that you are promoting a Tamil leadership independent of Tigers. However, the LTTE does not tolerate any sort of Tamil leadership other than their own. I think the reason behind the resentment towards any Tamil leadership other than the LTTE itself is because such a leadership would refute their claims of being the 'sole representative of Tamil people'. They appear to be the sole representative simply because they make sure that there is no other leadership.

I am no authority in politics. What I stated above is my observation. Any Tamil leader who says anything against the LTTE is branded a traitor over night and they get to have the top seat on their death list. In other words, an independent leader who would invariably criticise the LTTE way of doing things would have a very limited time span.

Purely from a discussion perspective Gaja, the LTTE fighting soldiers during war is perfectly understandable. What I condemn, and looks like the entire world condemns, is the assasination of individuals because they happen to have a different view point. This is what in my opinion earned the LTTE worldwide terrorist label.

Take for example a man like Neelan or even Mr. Kadirgamar. Both had a diffferent view point. That was good enough for the LTTE to eliminate them. I am not sure Gaja if they have learnt any lesson even after they were banned in all the places that always mattered to them (such as the UK and EU).

What surprises me in this forum is even very educated members from the Tamil community brand other tamils as 'traitors' and wish them death. The ONLY reason is they happen to have a different view point. I see no difference between that mentality and what we saw in the south in 1988-89 against the JVP insurgents.

Thanks Gaja for sharing your views. Admittedly, I often find some posts of yours hard to follow. But I always do read them.
Edited By - sk63 - 12 Sep 2006 03:34:55 GMT
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12 Sep 2006 06:45:13 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Sk63,

I see no difference between that mentality and what we saw in the south in 1988-89 against the JVP insurgents.


Is this therefore not the way politics is played in Sri Lanka?

You say
I think the reason behind the resentment towards any Tamil leadership other than the LTTE itself is because such a leadership would refute their claims of being the 'sole representative of Tamil people'.


The Tigers are very attached to the outcomes of their work. But that is the way of people who seek to have One culture. I do believe that the Tigers are maturing and their outlook has changed over the years as they got to know people of other cultures. Likewise, the GOSL is also learning more about Tamils than they did before.

The problem I see with GOSL is that like majority Sinhalese in this forum - they do not seem to have any solutions outside the LTTE for Tamils. This makes Tamils feel that by defeating the Tigers the GOSL is trying to suppress Tamils.

YOu say
Admittedly, I often find some posts of yours hard to follow. But I always do read them.


If you FEEL connected to my Truth there is no need to understand. My Truth becomes yours and you are then free to express it in your own way. Hence I keep it at the deeper level - so each one would derive the message as per their own needs. You must be reading them because you intuitively connect to my Truth.

It's like using a key board. When I type without thinking I hardly make mistakes. But when I start thinking about where the keys are - I make mistakes. Then I have to expressly look or consciously calculate. Likewise prayers. Likewise these discussions.

Thank you for reading and connecting and most importantly for respecting.

love
gaja
Edited By - Gaja - 12 Sep 2006 06:49:14 GMT
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