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nemesislk
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 20 Mar 2007 11:40:53 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hey all,
The SL Navy is putting pressure on the tiger shipping network. by sinking many ships in a short time.
Do you think the Sea tigers and might change their tactics because of this?
They might start using small submarines/submersibles like they used to...they might not be able to carry a large load but, the one caught off Costa Rica could take up to 10tons..with a 3 man crew.
They might use a sub rigged like the old KAITEN class suicide subs of the Jap?s in WW2 or use a improvised suicide torpedoes(two were captured by the navy some time back) to attack our OPV's, FMV's & the cargo ships going to KKS.
As far as I know the SL Navy lacks ASW weapons & sonar. These short comings should be met to face any underwater attack. Any idea if any ASW stuff is on our shopping lists? |
KfirC2
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20 Mar 2007 12:26:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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Did you guys knew that Army was actually able to seize SAMs from LTTE in 1998 during Jaya Sikuru
Vey good article
http://lakdiva.org/suntimes/030309/columns/sitrep.html
Proof of this came in June 1998 when the Army, during a search operation on a guerrilla hideout in Mannar, seized an IGLA launcher and two missiles. It came during a period when 'Operation Jaya Sikurui' (Victory Assured) to seize control of the Alpha-Nine highway from .................. |
Dinuk
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20 Mar 2007 13:11:23 GMT Report for Abuse
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Finally, A good answer for those who scream about MIG scandals... :o)
http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20070320_01 |
GreyFox
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 20 Mar 2007 14:49:29 GMT Report for Abuse
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J2K6
There is an aircraft that can provide good surveillance of the seas for Lanka. It is the Beech King Air 200 HISAR aircraft. SL airforce already has brought 1 Beech King Air 200 HISAR air craft, but we need at least four more to keep 24hrs surveillance of the seas. It has similar capabilities to the famous U2 spy plane.
For more info on the Beech King Air 200 HISAR go to:
http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRheft/FRH9708/FR9708b.htm
***'In maritime surveillance, ships of 250 square meters in size can be detected out to 200 kilometers distance'***
A single aircraft costs about $10 million. Which is really cheap compared the prices of other military air surveillance aircraft.
Edited By - GreyFox - 20 Mar 2007 14:51:05 GMT |
Dinuk
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20 Mar 2007 16:32:37 GMT Report for Abuse
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Voila!! I found Something!! If you guys wanna see complete High detailed pics of MIG27K Aircraft (Including Cockpit Shots), then i suggest you to look here :
http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/avia/rus/mig/mig-27k/index.htm
You guys can see the 'FLIR' on the bottom of the nose clearly... (Correct me if I'm wrong) :o)
Edited By - Dinuk - 20 Mar 2007 16:36:19 GMT |
nemesislk
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21 Mar 2007 16:42:27 GMT Report for Abuse
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Thanks for the heads up SU33... ;-p
MIG-29c n all,
Bit of news from AFP ran on LBO. check this link out:http://lbo.lk/fullstory.php?newsID=1049847444&no_view=1&SEARCH_TERM=33
What do you guys think? these Int. media creeps are always running down our forces.
We are kicking tiger butt with the MIG-27 Floggers. What do you guys think of the MIG-29 stuff?
Edited By - nemesislk - 21 Mar 2007 17:18:48 GMT |
j2k6
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 21 Mar 2007 17:50:56 GMT Report for Abuse
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GreyFox,
Comrade many thanks for the heads up. That's more or less what I was after. Someone said the Beech's (lol..) were lying low due to maintenance? any truth in this?
The MiGs were involved in some serious action last night. Wonder what that was all about. Looks like they were a Godsend to the boys on foot. |
Saervek
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23 Mar 2007 03:42:46 GMT Report for Abuse
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MiG-29C,
Firstly an apology for being unable to reply for so long, it?s been a really busy period. When I suggested an OCA strike on SAC, it was purely in view of the rather limited Indian sealift capacity, under the assumption that a state of war existed or was about to exist (in which case an Indian response/invasion is inevitable either way).
You might have better information on this, but when I looked around, this was all I found;
2 x Nicobar-class
5 x Polnochny-class
8 x Landing craft
3 x Shardul-class
2 x Magar-class
1 x Austin-class
I think if you run the numbers, removing the Nicobars (troop transports) & Polnochnys (in Andaman Islands) and assuming the rest can be beached, this comes to about 6000 Infantry, 60 tanks & 30 APCs (and probably some vehicles) as an approximate figure. Realistically, you?d probably exchange some troops for supplies. Requisitioning civilian craft is an option, but that would probably have its own set of problems.
Unless I have missed some assets, such a small force would probably require almost complete air superiority in order to have a realistic chance of success, since it would need to secure a beachhead, hold it, and then have to acquire a port/airfield, reinforced or not.
If you could disrupt IAF operations by restricting them operating from SWAC, surely that would reduce the number of aircraft capable of attacking Sri Lanka (range, logistical limits on the number of aircraft per airbase etc). With a sufficient reduction of the number of IAF craft, then perhaps air superiority could be contested, or at least the number of strike missions they could fly in support of ground troops reduced, which might be decisive considering the advantages Sri Lanka Army units would have fighting on home soil.
If you could also damage Indian ports in the south, the logistical difficulties of shipping reinforcements and supplies from VISHAKHAPATANAM or CALCUTTA would surely immensely complicate any Indian invasion.
No doubt the above would be immensely difficult to enact, and I don?t claim it is complete, but it strikes me that most of Sri Lanka?s choices in the (unlikely) case of war with India are poor, given the overwhelming Indian numerical superiority. To get a ceasefire Sri Lanka probably has to exploit the Indian weakness of needing to land troops (due to the lack of a land border).
Hmm I should say the above was related to our discussion on the FC-1/MiG-29; I got distracted while justifying buying such aircraft lol. Personally I have nothing against either aircraft, but I do think if Sri Lanka buys a $15 million+ aircraft, there should be a justifiable opponent to face them. Such an expense seems unjustifiable if used for internal security purposes. |
Su33
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 23 Mar 2007 12:02:25 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hey guys,
I just read that the vessels were bringing in 3 air crafts and SAMs. The shipment is also said to include torpedos???
Can torpedos be launched from ltte boats?? If so which variants?
Saervek,
How about concentrating on beating India in a cricket match? That way we can inflict the maximum damage to them. Hit them where it hurts the most - the heart, there will never be any retaliation heehee. |
j2k6
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23 Mar 2007 13:35:38 GMT Report for Abuse
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Saervek,
I sure would like to hope so! Who knows, maybe it's not complete fantasy. in the far distant future, with prosperity, who knows just what we'll be able to do to 'old india'. Sometimes we need visionaries rather than the perennial naysayers one usually finds in developing countries. Like you say, if we're capable of one day spending big (like singapore), why not spend it on deterrence. Lets not keep our sights 'pegged down'! There is no cost in aiming high today.
And as for india, lets make the chapathi buggers go empty handed tonight! viva! hela diva! |
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