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Buddhist monks given training to ensure peaceful co-existence in Sri Lanka
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Bonggo
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LK Information  30 Jul 2006 05:09:23 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Lula,

Thanks for reposting it. I have read it before and it was very funny. Let me add two lines to it too:

Yapaney demalai
Dakuney sinhalayai//

Ekata anala
Ekata indan indan kanney

Thosey masala wadey//

Atha thiynna epa ..

Rap

Hey hey hey hey sundaralingam
Hey hey adey macha vayila thosai
LuLa
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LK Information  30 Jul 2006 05:30:24 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Bonggo,

Your addition enhances the already funny baila.

Hey hey hey hey adida sundaralingam
Hey hey hey hey,
Maha paare andan nathuwa veren Bando thosai kanda,

Yapaney demalai
Dakuney sinhalayai//

Ekata anala
Ekata indan indan kanney

Thosey masala wadey//

Atha thiynna epa thosakade ....

Varayva Karakila.....
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LK Information  30 Jul 2006 11:17:54 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Tika veeenda naala
Thosey kadey vetha
Yanawada surathaliiye

Mata bohoma aasai
Baby samagin
Masala vadey kanna

Mata bohoma aasai
Beby samagin
Ulundu vadey kanna

Sambaaaru bedala
Thosey obaala
Kamu api sudu nangi

Tika venda naala
Thosey kadey vetha
Yanawada surathaliiye
Kamani
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LK Information  30 Jul 2006 11:23:54 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Bonggo ayya,

Bola bola meti
eka eka genenawa
guwan yaanayak
wage penenawa
uluwasse podi geyak hadanawa
kaa kendan ennada kumbalo

kaamara keeyada, gabada keeyada
selasuma heduweth obama thama
nedeyan hata ennata kiwwada
nkethak beluwoth obama thama

Rest I cannot remember.

Have a nice day :)
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LK Information  30 Jul 2006 11:31:36 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Bonggo

We knew about article about existence men and women 30,000 years ago (history). Also nice to know your views and analysis. I have no problem with scientific findings and your views.

In another thread Kula was discussing prehistoric period of Sri lanka and about urns burials and compared it to the south Indian customs at that time.

We are sure that when Vijaya landed here there were people here and some form of head and system and culture.

I believe some points to think and your views wont contradicts with the following

1#No one here would dare to claim that Balangoda man was speaking in Sinhala or Tamil.
2#If we stick to pre historic period the traditions can be coincidental being in the region the way the thought processes of a mankind. It is like most Asian eating rice.

In parallel to above findings and stories since Vijaya's arrival itself we here about he gets visitors from south India in many forms. I don't have to go into in depth detail about it.

No one mentioned or dare to mention that Vijaya introduce a constitution at that time for the whole Sri Lanka re Sinhala Bhudist state as it is portrayed now.

It is been proved again and again in these valuable discussions, there were indigenous people and influx of small group of people over long period of time and they spoke the language of the land where they settled. This sort of naturalisation took place PREDOMINANTLY as a natural process. When the language and the religion evolved and developed in two direction people was separated and this happened not yesterday or day before yesterday but in 12 AD.

To wind up my comment

I have no doubt you would disagree that Sinhala Christian and Catholics are not belong to this country. Of course they belong to this country and they changed their religion few hundreds years ago when compare to majority who did bit long time ago. Imagine they are living in N&E and they are been discriminated. What they will do in this free world when there is a way out living freely.

In this modern world people can live even the islets attached to Jaffna peninsula with all reasonable facilities. There cannot be a Manhattan in those islets but peaceful living is 100% possible.

BTW
Fortunately the ancient men were not named as Mahinda, Werawansa and so on, though the female pelvis hip and mandible is given a name Nimali and (considered) as spouse Balangoda man. If any female femur found in N&E I would prefer to be named as Mathi instead of Chandrika. Hope you understand.
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LK Information  30 Jul 2006 12:01:03 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Shan,

Very valid analyisis. In the early years most people have ventured to analyse the historic period or pre-historic period based on the literture availble at the time, namely Mahavamsa and other literary sources.

Even at the begining of the 20th century most European historians viewed Sri lankan history based on those documents. Still we do try to analyse the history based on those which are not history in the modern context or completely based on archelogical evidences. Even who did, were influenced by political considerations that have lead to biased history being told.

In the recent past many historians have deviated from that direction and trying to re-constitute history based on solid archelogical and numismatic evidences. Many of the old theories are questioned and disproved. Prof. Indrapala is one of the few who had boldly admitted that his origianl perspective has changed due to these new research.

Siran Deraniyagala is one of the best in this category and I believe he has just released one of the most authoritative study on pre-history of Sri Lanka. Will be very useful to read his views.

Thanks
Kula
Edited By - Kulakottan - 30 Jul 2006 12:17:14 GMT
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LK Information  30 Jul 2006 12:02:26 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Shan, you are 100% correct.

Yes when Vijaya arrived here there have been a civilisation here but it was a remnant of a far superior civilisation, of which few details are known.

The Balangoda Man (that including Nimali too or perhaps Saroja) even practised accupuncture 30000 years ago. Which means accupuncture originated in Sri Lanka not in China. The inscriptions in caves in Ratnapura District show some evidence.

The BM used advanced tools to cut and polish gemstones as well. We do not know what language he spoke but definitely not Sinhala or Tamil. Now we are all here as fate befell on us, let us make the best use of it.
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LK Information  30 Jul 2006 12:14:51 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Kula,

Many eminent Sinhala historians too dispute the facts mentioned in Mahavamsa
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LK Information  30 Jul 2006 12:15:36 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Bonggo,
One theory is that pre-historic Sri Lanka was populated by two main groups of people.

One apparently had a lot of commonality with the aborogines of South India possibly the Nagas, and the other was an Austrloid group which might have been of lighter colour which the prakrit speakers branded as Yakkhas.

As you rightly said very little is known about their language or culture.

Kula
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LK Information  30 Jul 2006 12:39:32 GMT  Report for Abuse  
Lula,

According to Prof. K. Indrapala, prior to 10-12th century A.D, as a nation, the people of Sinhalay comprising of Damedas (Tamils) and others were known as Sinhalayas. However, with the invasion of Cholas 'Saivaism' was introduced. This created two separate groups namely 'Sinhala Buddhist' and 'Tamil Hindus'. Both Sinhalese and Tamils emerged as a separate race/ethnic group only after the 12th CAD.


I see you try to seek some psychological solace by misinterpreting 'Sinhalese and Tamils emerged as separate identities only after 12 CAD' to the effect that both Sinhalese and Tamil Identities were born AT THE SAME TIME in 12 CAD.

When you resorted to this bull before, both I and Mucha clearly explained to you how naive your assertion was. To remind you, Chola invasions did not introduce or create Sinhalese Buddhist Identity in 12 CAD!

Sinhalese Identity emerged as early as 5-6 CBC. Buddhism arrived in SL in 3 CBC -- that was when Sinhalese Identity was born, not in 12 CAD. Get that clear.

Due to South Indian invasions, in 12 CAD, some of them separated from Sinhalese-Buddhist identity and assimilated into cultures of invaders from South India, and this was when SL Tamil identity was born. Nothing changed in Sinhalese-Buddhist Identity in 12 CAD.

SL Tamil Identity was not the only Identity that was born like this. As I and Mucha explained numerous times, SL Catholic and SL Christian identities are examples.
Edited By - GamaRaala - 30 Jul 2006 13:24:54 GMT
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