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Kulakottan
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 28 Jul 2006 23:34:43 GMT Report for Abuse
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Shan,
Thanks and yes, your words asisted me to take the decsion.
Same advice came out of the 'horse's mouth too'.
He told me that when people choose to ignore what is written, just move on.
You too have a good weekend.
Kula
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LuLa
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 29 Jul 2006 16:32:20 GMT Report for Abuse
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Banku Buster,
We are already in the Chola land, the Island was a part of the Chola land. In the past, the cholas were freely coming and going. We know our motherland/fatherland.
Under Rajaraja the Rajarata became a
Province of the Chola empire and was called Mummuda
Chola Mandalam. His son Rajendra 1 (1014 - 1044)
conquered large areas to the south and took Mihindu 5
as captive. Under him Sri Lanka became one of the nine
provinces of the Chola empire and was called Eelam
Mandalam. This Chola rule was the longest and the most
far-reaching in terms of surface area by any Dravidic
power. To this day the influence of the Cholas who
were staunch Shivam Hindus can still be seen in the
Tamil community of Sri Lanka.
You fellows are so ignorant, still not sure from where you came, fatherland/motherland is still a mistery for you ahh?
Follow your history man, a Bengali father and Madurai(Tamil) mother's blood runs in your veins.
Tamils came to the Island by natural process of migration. But you fellows, I mean Vijaya and his men were criminals who were deported from India and made to drift in the Bay of Bengal and by chance landed here. Otherwise there would not have been all these problems.
Do you think in such a situation India will ever take Vijaya's progeny back to India?
Just because you created a new name 'Sinhala' and got unhooked from those Bengali criminal mind set, Why should we get unhooked from the neo-chola mind set?
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29 Jul 2006 17:44:01 GMT Report for Abuse
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My dear Bengali Lula,
I told you it is worthless talking about who came first to the Island and who came last. We will get nowhere.
We have been taught from our childhood that Sri Lanka has a history of 2,500 years thus downgrading ourselves, when in fact we had a civilisation which is 30,000 years old. It was an advanced civilisation at that. This is the problem. We repeat what we were taught at school like parrots, without verification of facts.
Read the following. Then give your comments. Even today, our educationists do not make any attempt change our history syllabus which would have done a world of good:
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Daily News (Friday 16th July 2004)
Is Lankan civilization the oldest in South Asia?
by P. D. A. S. Gunasekera, Ratnapura group correspondent
The evidence of a rich civilisation in ancient Sri Lanka, mentioned in the Mahawansa, had gathered momentum in the pre-millennium decades, with the archaeological evidence unearthed by the excavations, under Dr. Siran Deraniyagala, the former Archaeological Commissioner, in the 1980s, at Batadomba Lena, in the Ratnapura district, conclusively proving, that 'Balangoda Man' had actually lived in Sri Lanka, tens of thousands of years ago.
The material evidence examined and tested at Cornel University, USA, by Prof. Kennedy had confirmed that the civilisation, represented by the 'archaeological findings' ran back to 29,000-30,000 years, when the civilisation of the sub-continent India had, according to archaeological evidence dated back only to 10,000 years, giving the 'lie to' the claims that Sri Lanka had derived her civilisation from India.
Those, together with the untested evidence from the rest of the country including Vaulpone Caves in Balangoda, Fa-Hien Cave in Matugama, Beli Lena in Kitulgala, Batatota Lena in Kuruwita, Manil Lena in Ayagama (according to archaeological sources) where official excavations had not been undertaken, but 'fossils' of a distant age comparable with those tested found, left no doubt that Sri Lanka had been blessed with a superior civilisation when the rest of South East Asia, including India, lay under a mass of bare rock and earth.
Besides, a few decades ago, 1986 to be exact, the specimens including 'finger-bones' and the 'jaw bone' of a female, from the collection of Dr. Deraniyagala's 'finds', examined by Prof. Kennedy, had been pronounced as belonging to a woman who had lived 29,000 years ago, in Sri Lanka and certified as the oldest specimen of the kind found in the whole of South East Asia.
The female considered as the spouse of the 'Balangoda Man' had been named 'Nimali' by the Dept. of Archaeology, that year. (Vide DN 1986.10.04 for more details by the same writer).
A great deal of valuable evidence in the reconstruction of the ancient civilisation has been lost to posterity due to the 'handiwork' of vandals and treasure hunters, as well as thoughtless persons through their ignorance.
Thus at 'Batatota Lena' in Kuruwita, where 'fossils' on the surface soil, covering a wealth of ancient evidence of the Balangoda civilisation had been removed with the earth, to build a Viharaya on the site, thereby destroying all traces of history, according to Dr. Deraniyagala.
The fixing of the age of the Balangoda Man and his spouse named 'Nimali', following the investigation in the laboratory of the famous Cornel University, due to the efforts of the former Archaeological Commissioner (Deraniyagala) has, confirming the theories that Sri Lankan civilisation was three times older (30,000 years) than the civilisation of India (10,000 years) and the oldest known female, in the whole of South East Asia had lived in Sri lanka (with exception of the women from South Africa 50,000 years old) has exploded the age-old theory that Sri Lankan civilisation had its origin in India, from where it proceeded to our shores, thus changing the current history of the nation.
In this context, extending the theory based upon the 'unshakable evidence' that Sri Lankan civilisation was the oldest known in the SEA, it could be held without any fear of contradiction, that it had spread and taken root in other countries of SEA down the ages long before they were officially discovered by the Western nations.
The speculation if some of the earliest stock of Sri Lankans had found their way to the East might find the answer in the claim of the profound scholar, thinker, educationist and patriot, Munidasa Kumaratunga, who, with 'admirable penetration' saw by anticipation, what we see today backed by concrete scientific evidence that civilisation had proceeded to the East, centuries ago, from Sri Lanka.
Civilisation is the starting point of the true history of any nation. But Sri Lankan history is still based upon a civilisation proved erroneous by authentic evidence.
For our children still learn, in school and out that Sri Lankan civilisation came to Sri Lanka from India when in fact, it is the other way about.
The historian and the educationist should take steps, even at this late stage to remedy and rectify this absurd situation, by promoting authentic history and educating posterity on the true concept of Sri Lankan civilisation, based on archaeological evidence, without forgetting, that 'the proof of the pudding is in the eating'. |
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29 Jul 2006 18:20:04 GMT Report for Abuse
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Bonggo,
Thanks for the article and yes, as you said, it is foolish to talk about what or who came first, (Chicken or the egg).
In the cogent words of that distinguished SL archaeologist Prof. Senerat Paranavitana, 'the vast majority of the people who today speak Sinhalese or Tamil must ultimately be descended from those autochthonous people (of the pre historic period) of whom we know next to nothing. (uchc,1,1:96-97).
Millions of years ago the southern part of India including Lanka was a part of Africa, a landmass known as Gondwana, which broke away and got attached to Asia. The first known pre historic human skeleton was found in Africa, which may have a connection with BALANGODA MANAWAKAYA and NIMALI.
As Prof. Paranavitana says, these very ancient lost civilizations from the Jurassic period may have something to do with the present day Sinhalese and Tamils.
But, from the language, culture and features/appearance of the present day Sinhalese and Tamils, don?t you think that our ancestors were from India? |
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 29 Jul 2006 18:26:18 GMT Report for Abuse
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Bonggo ayya,
My dear Bengali Lula,
I told you it is worthless talking about who came first to the Island and who came last. We will get nowhere
I have to acknowledge profoundly jusy because you are a gent with gumption. I have tried and failed in saying who came first and last scenario using the Chicken and the egg story and some people are just blind and deaf to comprehend common sense. Perhaps those species are prohobited to Female humans.
Have good day ayya. But I still will not forgive you for what you have not done Mahela :) |
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29 Jul 2006 18:29:10 GMT Report for Abuse
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BB,
You are wasting your valuable time in explaining to some members.
Asare saara mathino sareetha saara dassino
they saarang naadi gaccanthi micc sankappa goccara
Better refrain educating those who don't comprehend. |
LuLa
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29 Jul 2006 18:48:07 GMT Report for Abuse
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Bonggo,
I have already given some lessons to this woman who was arguing like a nine year old child and blowing her trumphet at times, under another thread (Sargent Nallathamby).
She kept on repeating in this forum that, Sri Lanka is our Sinhala Buddhist country and the Tamils can go to Tamil Nadu, similar to BB and a few others.
I have told her that who came first is not at all important, you may have come on Sunday and I may have come on Monday.
She is still bluffing, you can visit that thread and read it for yourself, I hope she is decent enough and will not edit anything. |
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29 Jul 2006 18:53:03 GMT Report for Abuse
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I have already given some lessons to this woman who was arguing like a nine year old child and blowing her trumphet at times
Have you forgotten to laugh hysterically and fall off the chair and roll over the floor like an infant?
By the way, who came first Chicken or the Egg? :) |
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29 Jul 2006 19:04:30 GMT Report for Abuse
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Ha! Ha! Ha! He! He! He! Hu! Hu! Hu! Hooooo! Hooo! Hoo!
I am really enjoying it, thanks.
Chicken or egg?
I like both, coming first, who cares, just enjoy it. |
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29 Jul 2006 19:32:03 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kamani nangi,
Lula is a nice chap. Contrary to what you think he understands the situation of who came first and second well. For example read his last post (in page 73). Need I say more?
Lula,
Our immediate ancestors may be from India but all of us have our roots in 'Balangoda Man' too. Balangoda Man and Nimali neither Tamil nor Sinhalese. The Sinhalese have in them, Malay blood too (refer to the Sri Vijaya of Malayans' rule of Sri Lanka in the 12th Century). We are a real achcharu: Bengali, Tamil, Sinhalese, Malay, Vedda (direct descendent of Balangoda man) put together.
Sri Lanka and India (during Gondwanland) was connected to Australia as well and gone their own way. For millennia the Indian plate was separating from the Australian plate and further divided during the devastating earthquake which caused Tsunami in 2004.
The Vedda community in Sri Lanka and the Aborigines of Australia have a lot of features in common. Similar features could be found among African Negroids and Black Yemenis. Yeah, it is evidence that these three places would have been one piece of land long time ago. If that was the case, naturally they would have had a common ancestor too.
There is also a theory that Ravana would have come from Yemen. Those days they had flying machines in Yemen too.
When we go to think about all these things it is really mind boggling. Better to concentrate on our job, earn some money, look after our respective families and be nice to our neighbours. If we can tell our grandchildren about something positive that we have contributed to the society, then we can be proud of ourselves.
Yes, our gradnchildren are more important than our ancestors. Ponder over the follwoing sentence, and correct me if I am wrong:
'We did not inherit from our forefathers, we have borrowed it from our grandchildren'
For now let us have a baila session:
Kodigaha yata mama upanney
namagiya thenaki ratey
Colombaya kiyalai kiyanney
Mulu lokaya hathara watey
Hedat wedat hari soorayo
Apith colomba kollo//
P.S.
Where did baila originate from? Which one came first baila or reggae?
Edited By - Bonggo - 29 Jul 2006 20:04:59 GMT |
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