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Buddhist monks given training to ensure peaceful co-existence in Sri Lanka
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LuLa Senior Member
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27 Jul 2006 06:50:54 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
I missed this whole thread, did not have time to even clik once, and was engaged with someone else.
Thank you so much Kula for your effort in putting up a fantastic debate with our Gamaya. Still I could not read the whole thing.
So many people get confused between GamaRaala and Muchalinda, some of them think that these two handles belong to the same person, but they are not.
I have debated with both, they both have the same knowledge because they read and memorize each and every article and books written by the present day psudo-historians and argue in a similar fashion.
Thanks again Kula, keep up your excellent work. |
LuLa Senior Member
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27 Jul 2006 08:27:31 GMT Report for Abuse
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GamaRaala,
The strategy to come out of today's disaster is to understand that Tamils enjoy far more rights in Sri Lanka than many other Western nations. Regardless of how much 'HUMAN EQUALITY / RACIAL EQUALITY' the Westerners preach, they never give EQUAL STATUS to Tamil languge or Hindu culture. Tamils should be proud of additional rights they enjoy in SL, that expat Tamils in the USA, UK or Norway or any Western nations CANNOT enjoy!.
In your last debate with me, you kept on repeating the above over and over like a parrot and finally I had to call you a GonRaala.
This is the only difference I found between you and Muchalinda.
Please do not write rubbish. If you cannot help, but continue writing it, at least try not to repeat the same rubbish!! What you are repeating in your discussion with KULA is nothing but the same rubbish you dumped sometime ago in an argument I had with you. I have clearly showed you that there are better places to dump rubbish than a public forum like this (for example, you can dispose them in an article written to Lankaweb.com).
Your above analogy is hilarious, both Tamils and Sinhalese are expatriates in the West who migrated to those countries in the recent past where as in Sri Lanka both Sinhalese and Tamils are people who came from different parts of India (except the aboriginals) and evolved into two separate ethnic groups/nation for many centuries.
The Tamils in Sri Lanka are a group of people who lived in this country for millenniums as a part of the nation and later turned into a majority community within a well defined and very clearly and naturally demarcated land area (NorthEast) with their own kingdoms in their native land.
The Tamils have the same claim to Sri Lanka as the Sinhalese.
I came on Sunday and you came on Monday is not important, both came as migrants and today they are natives.
The only difference is, the Tamils adapted the language, religion and culture from Tamil Nadu/Kerela due to the strong influence from the nearest land (just 22 miles across the sea) where as the Sinhalese developed their own language and culture because they were largely isolated from the rest of the world. |
jehan
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27 Jul 2006 08:52:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hi Guys,
You all keep on repeating that we all came from India. What proof you have unless some fools' ideal theories.
I agree some monks came here, some kings came here. It doesn't mean the natives came here from somewhere.
Just common sense will help you. |
GamaRaala
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27 Jul 2006 10:04:07 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
I am amazed how much you can misinterpret to avoid accepting that your Tamil Kingdom is a myth. To this end, you don't even care misinterpreting K Indrapala!!
I challenged that you are involved in the following pathetic act
1) Quote K Indrapala on 'existance' of Tamils in SL.
2) Link that with your Imaginary Tamil Kingdom.
Now, let's see how you quote Indrapala on 'Tamil Kingdoms'.
26 Jul 2006 11:59:26 GMT, page 66
Is quoting Prof. Indrapala verbatim from his book, misinterpretation or weaving a story?
Quote again:
Let me quote from Prof. Indrapala from his new book:
P165,
In fact, from other evidences it is known that there was a chiefdom named Nagadipa in the northernmost part of the island. Its ruler appears to have been known as Diparaja and there is a Brahmi record of a Diparaja. Although this record is from Minintale, Pranavitana suggests that the Diparaja mentioned here was the ruler of Nagadipa. Apart from these references to Diparaja, there is at least one early Brahmi record from the Jaffna peninsula itself providing evidence about a chief with a title 'Ko' ( the equivalent of the Prakrit raja in Dravidian languages)
Is this your reference that K Indrapala talked about an Independent Tamil Kingdom? :-)
1. This extract HAS NO REFERENCE to any INDEPENDENT TAMIL KINGDOMS!
2. It talks about a 'chiefdom', which could be an area ruled by a chief. This IS NOT a KINGDOM. chief is NOT a King. 'chiefdoms' are not Kingdoms.
3. What is even more diabolical is the GROSS MIS INTERPRETATION Kula does to K Indrapala implying 'chief' was an Independent Tamil King.
Kula, 'Ko' might be a Dravidian title name, but Dravidian does NOT necessarily mean 'Tamil'. Telugu, Malayalam, and Kannada also Dravidian languages! All this says there 'There was a ONLY a chief, NOT a KING, with a Dravidian title name which could be Telugu, Malayalam, Kannada or Tamil'!
K Indrapala is the worst enemey Eelamist have to fight against. K Indrapala says in no uncertain terms that While Sinhalese Identity emerged in as early as 5-6 century BC, SL Tamil Identity only emerged after 12 century AD ie. 1700 years after the Sinhalese Identity emerged. :-) :-)
So Kula, what Tamil Kingdoms you can talk about, if there was not even a Tamil Identity prior to 12 CAD?
Kula, GET THIS CRYSTAL CLEAR.
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* IF there was a Historical Indepdent Tamil Kingdom in SL, for god sake, why did K Indrapala DIABOLICALLY, PURPOSEFULLY, OMIT that in his new book? :-) :-) :-)
* Why does NOT his new book say in PLAIN ENGLISH that 'there was a historic Independent Tamil Kingdom' as you would like to concoct? :-) :-) Edited By - GamaRaala - 27 Jul 2006 12:13:57 GMT |
Kulakottan Senior Member
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27 Jul 2006 10:15:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula,
Thanks.
I was waiting for a precision bomb to be fired( as indicated) on you from a high altitude and you to return some AAA ( Anti-Aircraft Artillery) in another thread.
However, I have not even seen a pusvAnam from the sky.
Have you shot him down????
Kula Edited By - Kulakottan - 27 Jul 2006 10:16:00 GMT |
GamaRaala
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27 Jul 2006 10:27:45 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula,
Mucha-Linda has a unique writing style. His remarks penitrate deep into Eelamists' minds. The pain they inflict seems last long, and sometimes surfaces.
This is one such deep penitration attack Mucha launched on Lula on 5 Jun 2006 06:25:40 GMT
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2006/5/7116_18.html
LULA:
Please do not speak rubbish. If you cannot help, but continue speaking it, at least try not to repeat the same rubbish!! What you are repeating in your discussion with GAMAYA is nothing but the same rubbish you dumped sometime ago in an argument I had with you. I have clearly showed you that there are better places to dump rubbish than a public forum like this (for example, you can dispose them in an article written to Tamilcanadian.com).
How much Lula was suffered by this can be seen from what comes out of Lula today,
Please do not write rubbish. If you cannot help, but continue writing it, at least try not to repeat the same rubbish!! What you are repeating in your discussion with KULA is nothing but the same rubbish you dumped sometime ago in an argument I had with you. I have clearly showed you that there are better places to dump rubbish than a public forum like this (for example, you can dispose them in an article written to Lankaweb.com).
Heh heh heh :-) :-)
Apart from this, Lula has resorted to the many a time debunked arguments like
Sinhalese and Tamils are people who came from different parts of India .
Yes, Sinhalese came from 'Sinhala Nadu' of India where a dialect of Sinhalese is spoken. Even Today, Sinhalese films are created in 'Sinhala Nadu' and are imported to Sri Lanka for the enjoyment of Sinhalese! What is more, 'Sinhala Nadu' politics are very much sensitive to 'Sri Lankan Sinhalese' issues simply because 'Sinhala Nadu' is the homeland of Sinhalese. The people of Sinhala-Nadu consider Sri Lankan Sinhalese are of their race, hence quite sensitive to Sinhalese issues :-) :-) Edited By - GamaRaala - 27 Jul 2006 10:31:57 GMT |
LuLa Senior Member
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27 Jul 2006 10:31:17 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
According to Shan, mig crashed in the Indian ocean. |
LuLa Senior Member
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27 Jul 2006 10:46:23 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gamaya,
Mucha-Linda has a unique writing style. His remarks penitrate deep into Eelamists' minds.
Absolutely correct, this is why I love Muchalinda's debating skills and I have mentioned this many times even to Mucha.
In this particular case, I found Mucha's words very appropriate for me to use on you.
There is a Sinhala saying, 'Urage maalu urage pitae thiyala kapanawa', you cut pork meat by placing it on a pig's back.
I do not know if I got it right.
Reading your 'Sinhala Nadu' crap which you keep on repeating, its only a waste of web space because every Tom, Dick and Harry knows about the Bengalis and Madurai(Tamil) combination and the origin of the Sinhala race.
The pain they inflict seems last long, and sometimes surfaces.
You mean the pain Mucha inflicted on me or what I inflicted on Mucha.
You very well remember, in that debate with me, Mucha gave me some new names such as an Ordinary Ponnaiah.
let the readers decide, who inflicted pain on whom.
LuLa the Ordinary Ponnaiah. Edited By - LuLa - 27 Jul 2006 11:05:31 GMT |
Bonggo Senior Member
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27 Jul 2006 11:01:53 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula the Bangali,
Uragey malu uragema pitey thiyala kapanawa
You got it right machang. You can also say 'ugey kaduwenma oowa kapamu.'
Not only is talking about 'Nadus' etc is a waste of time, talking about who came first, who ruled for how long in the past is an utter waste of time and space.
We are all Bangalis oi. |
GamaRaala
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27 Jul 2006 11:03:41 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula,
There is a Sinhala saying, 'Urage maalu urage pitae thiyala kapanawa', you cut pork meat by placing it on a pig's back.
I do not know if I got it right.
Yes Lula, I understand this. Your admission of using Mucha's words explains how deep Mucha has cut in to you ;-)
But get this clear. When we quote Prof Karthigesu Indrapala or Prof Sinnappa Arasaratnam to show how even Tamil historians debunk 'Tamil Kingdom myth', we do it of academic, not 'pork chopping', intensions. ;-) |
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