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Buddhist monks given training to ensure peaceful co-existence in Sri Lanka
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Kulakottan
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 26 Jul 2006 14:25:33 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mahabala,
Thanks,
If they found in Tamilnadu, that can be originated there rather than Jaffna.
Secondly, if the Tamil population developed in that region (N_E), the language must be reasonably different. In fact Tamil Nadu tamils and Jaffna tamils are different only from action but not from any words, characters or gramatical structure
As Dr Pushparatnam has indicated most of the coins were found in Northern Lanka and not in Tamil Nadu. That is why he concluded that they were issued by the Tamil rulers of the North.
There is no doubt that Tamil originated in Tamil Nadu. It is also possible that due to the close proximity of Southern most part of India to the Northern coast of Sri Lanka Tamil could have arrived in Sri Lanka in the pre-historic period, much before the Prakrit speaking migrants and Buddhist monks. However, as much as Prakrit language influenced the local language in the South the Tamil influenced the natives' dialogue in the North. Continued migration and invasions could have completely transformed and assimilated the natives in the North-east into a Tamil speaking population. It is still not clear what language did the original natives spoke. However, it is true that the natives of South India and part of the natives of ancient Lanka (perhaps the Nagas) shared a common culture and possibly the language.
There are evidences to prove that the Naga race existed in South India too. That is proven by the name of an important port in south called 'Nagapattinam'.
You said:
Besides those historical prediction, I am a strong position to belive that Sri lanka must address minority right both law enforcement as well as regulations.
You are absolutely right. The problem is the implementation rather than regulations itself. As you rightly said the enforcement is very important.
Because of the historically developed mistrust one way is to implement a decentralized political structure where Tamils can feel secure in areas where we are majority without the need for separation within a united or an undivided Sri Lanka.
Kula
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 26 Jul 2006 14:30:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
very true. i was even surprised you kept at it for so long. good for you. |
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26 Jul 2006 14:40:20 GMT Report for Abuse
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TC,
Yes.
I would have normally given up.
Anyway guys, its time for me to say 'Chou'!
Kula
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26 Jul 2006 14:50:54 GMT Report for Abuse
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Have a good night sir,
havent seen your buddy Ariyalai_sb in a long time. |
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 26 Jul 2006 17:06:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula/GamaRala:
I do not deny or condemn any actul fact. I play rubbish if the other party do so and I am bored.
I like to see those historical stuff. I am pretty sure you have limited resources in internet about it. You can recoomend any papers or books.
Our party strongly support and accept the Tamil rights. Though we strongly oppose any kind of discussion with any arm group, development of respect, mutual understanding and protection of human right are my Philosophy.
We will continue the discussion.
By the way, Is this Maha gamaya or Punchi Gamaya? :) |
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 26 Jul 2006 19:03:40 GMT Report for Abuse
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If you keep on thinking from the 'WRONG' root, then you will go into the wrong path.
Mahawamsa is the 'False' stroy written to give Buddism the 'Authority' in Sri Lanka.
Many historian do research from Mahawamsa and write 'False Conclusions'.
In one way, that is the Mindset of the Buddists in Sri Lanka and that is THE PROBLEM of Sri Lanka.
We should not consider the geographical division and think Tamils of India and Tamil of Sri Lanka are different.
South Asia was a Tamil Zone. Whereever they lived they all spoke Tamil.
After the Mongolian Monks with Pali Language started to migrate towards south, they were behind the Kingdoms and forced their Pali Language and Pali writings. Eventually, they created Thelugu, Malayalam, Kannada, Sinhala and many other South Asian Languages. Also they did this in South East Asia.
Because of the Sound Suitablility, in those days, people preferred to use Pali writings instead of Tamil. Even nowadays some people use English instead of Tamil Alphabets.
So, even in Sri Lanka, the Tamils preferred and also because of their Religion of that time, Buddism, they preferred to use Pali writings and adapted to the NEW Language Sinhala. Sinhala is the newly developed Lanugae like Hindi, Urudu or even other South Asian Language.
Sinhala is not a Race. Only Sri Lankan Tamils created Sinhala Language.
Today, so called, Sinhalese are our own blood and flesh, our own ancestoral lineage. i.e. our own siblings. |
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 26 Jul 2006 19:43:18 GMT Report for Abuse
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Jesus Christ! I may have to give up my job soon! When I clicked to this particular thread this morning at work I thought this page is filled by bra's stuff. But lately bit of good stuff by Kula initiated by gama.
Dear Kula,
Kula once again you have done a good job for the forum members. One guy considered you as a noe- Chola. Take it as a complement. What an achievement in a short period of history learning. I am really amazed about you and Lula. Now a days you guys don't take time to reply. Hot hot and bloody red hot. As TCK mentioned we miss AriSB. Kural and Tig19 pops up now and then. |
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26 Jul 2006 19:44:45 GMT Report for Abuse
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To Whom It May Concern:
I was following the history debates very closely in this forum for a while. I haven't surprised about Sinhalese mindset and taking about Independent Tamil Kingdoms and kings as a cheep scoring point. I had these discussions before in various occasions with various people and his-storyans. If you see your side of the stories apart from small periods your kingdoms had been pushed here and there by external forces. Those push not by big forces but at times by horse traders who came for business and managed to rule you.
For Tamils ruling their part started roughly when Tamil kings in India became weaker. Despite knowing the fact of long standing animosity from BC only few attempts were made and one short spell of Sinhalese rule was established over the Tamils prior to the independence to date.
I will leave it to the experts who and who were the kings and queens? It is the ethnicity of this country since known history of Srilanka is what matters to me and you. You can be in denial if that makes you happy. Tamils wont care. Even if VP signs something tomorrow it will be revalidated time to time by Tamils. It is matter for the Tamils to decide their future no one else.
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26 Jul 2006 23:39:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Shan,
Thanks. I agree.
As much as sinhalese are proud of the dynasty of Anuradhapura, any Tamil need not be ashmaed of one of the greatest Tamil dynasty - the Cholas.
Only different is that the Cholas are considered invaders to Sri lanka and I am a native. Invasion, in the ancient history was part and parcel of a kingdom including that of Emperor Asoka.
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26 Jul 2006 23:49:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mahabala,
I like to see those historical stuff. I am pretty sure you have limited resources in internet about it. You can recoomend any papers or books.
I normally do not quote things until I have understood the context in which it is written. This means, at least I have read the whole page. Most of waht I have quoted above are from books and not from internet. If you need any detail of any particular quotation I would be pleased to give you the name of the book.
Our party strongly support and accept the Tamil rights. Though we strongly oppose any kind of discussion with any arm group, development of respect, mutual understanding and protection of human right are my Philosophy.
I do appreciate and respect your comments in a general sense. However, the situation in Sri Lanka have to be dealt with all stake holders and the arm group has to be a part of the process. The situation in the NEast is, to a certain extend, similar to that of the Palestinian issue. Without the particpation of Hamas, there cannot be peace between Palestinians and Israel.
Other option is for the GOSL to implement a Federal solution which is widely accepted by Tamils, part of the Sinhala masses and the International community. It does offer an opportunity to isolate LTTE from the Tamils.
However, if many of the comments made in this forum represent the majority of the Sinhala thinking, it is not that encouraging. It is full of self denials and ethno-centric. I must admit though that there are flashes of hope from people like you.
Will be pleased to discuss when time permits.
Thanks
Kula
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