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Buddhist monks given training to ensure peaceful co-existence in Sri Lanka
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petijo1 Senior Member
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26 Jul 2006 10:14:24 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gama Raala!
Please explain me your special culture. Why do you speak of my culture which is not known to you. |
petijo1 Senior Member
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26 Jul 2006 10:18:51 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gama Raala!
Have you ever been to N/E OF sri lanka!
Have you ever spoken to Tamil people.
You speak like a new born child. You idea what you say is new. But Tamils were ancestors of your forefathers.
Who are you to give right to Tamils to celebrate their feasts.?
Tamils are all right to do whatever they want in their own country. Edited By - petijo1 - 26 Jul 2006 10:22:19 GMT |
GamaRaala
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26 Jul 2006 10:22:37 GMT Report for Abuse
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Petijo1,
Please explain me your special culture. Why do you speak of my culture which is not known to you.
You can learn about Sinhalese culture from reading books.
I did not speak about intricacies of Tamil culture. I pointed out that Tamil culture is a MIGRANT culture in Sri Lanka.
You can turn back and argue that you believe Tamil culture is also Native to SL, like Eealimists/LTTE do. This is like you claiming your ownership to someone else's property simply because you believe/want so.
The rightful owner of the property can take you to courts and courts may order you to give up as your claim is only a 'day dream'. You can, instead, resort to terrorism, kill the judge and rightful owner and own the property.
This is what the LTTE is trying to do.
Have you ever been to N/E OF sri lanka!
I lived 5-6 years in the East, Trincomalee from 80 to 85. Edited By - GamaRaala - 26 Jul 2006 10:26:58 GMT |
petijo1 Senior Member
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26 Jul 2006 10:32:30 GMT Report for Abuse
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GamaRaala!
I don't need to learn your culture by readings books.
I can understand your culture form this forum in which you write all sort of rubbish about your culture.
I understand your culture consists only hatred, racism,
egoism, bitterness revenge murder, nothing new all these come from primitive into civilized people.
I don't know you are in primitive state or civilized state.
But this forum teach me clearly you are far from developed world. |
petijo1 Senior Member
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26 Jul 2006 10:36:06 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gama Raala!
I lived 5-6 years in the East, Trincomalee from 80 to 85.
I am sorry sir, you seem a bit aged.
I don't want argue with elderly people. Whatever they write I respect them. |
Kulakottan Senior Member
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26 Jul 2006 10:54:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gamarala,
You are right; I am not smart enough to repeat the same reply over and over again.
Your strategy is good to make people tired of repeating the same thing but not good enough to save the country from divison and economic disaster.
Keep it up!!
Kula |
GamaRaala
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26 Jul 2006 11:11:52 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
I had to repeat the same answer in different ways because you kept on quoting K Indrapala on 'existance' of Tamils in SL, and then link that with your 'imaginary Tamil Kingdom' to base claims for autonomy/self determination.
When this error was repeatedly pointed out, you finally TWISTED your argument saying 'Tamil Kingdom' does not have much relevance to your argument ;-)
If we leave out 'Mythical Tamil Kingdom', then what is left is 'Tamils might have lived in the Sinhalese Kingdom'. This is same is Jews living 2000 years in Europe in French or German Kingdoms. Jews are not entitled to Self Determination in Europe and so is the case for SL Tamils.
So, only way out for you is to somehow (mis-)interpret history (K Indrapala's work included) to weave a story that there was an Indepdent Tamil Kingdom in SL and today's Tamils are descendants of this Independent Tamil Kingdom hence have the historical right to self determination. Pro-LTTE web sites like Tamil-Canadians are following this approach. Unfortuntely for them and you, no historian accepts these Myths ;-)
Tamils have more rights in SL than USA, UK, Australia, NZ, Norway or any other Western nation. If Tamils can live happy in those countries, they should be even more proud of additional rights they have in SL.
Instead, some of them are resorting to Mythical Tamil Kingdoms and creating a bloodbath, only to fulfil their whims and fancies. Edited By - GamaRaala - 26 Jul 2006 11:38:20 GMT |
GamaRaala
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26 Jul 2006 11:45:41 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
Your strategy is good to make people tired of repeating the same thing but not good enough to save the country from divison and economic disaster.
The strategy to come out of today's disaster is to understand that Tamils enjoy far more rights in Sri Lanka than many other Western nations. Regardless of how much 'HUMAN EQUALITY / RACIAL EQUALITY' the Westerners preach, they never give EQUAL STATUS to Tamil languge or Hindu culture. Tamils should be proud of additional rights they enjoy in SL, that expat Tamils in the USA, UK or Norway or any Western nations CANNOT enjoy!.
Instead of doing this, people like you are quite happy to resort to Mythical Tamil Kingdoms and ensure the continuation of today's disaster.
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Kula, and the rest,
With this, I conclude my two-day stint. I will peep time to time, as the time permits. Thanks for the dialog. Edited By - GamaRaala - 26 Jul 2006 11:52:04 GMT |
Kulakottan Senior Member
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26 Jul 2006 11:59:26 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gamarala,
You repeated:
I had to repeat the same answer in different ways because you kept on quoting K Indrapala on 'existance' of Tamils in SL, and then link that with your 'imaginary Tamil Kingdom' to base claims for autonomy/self determination
I repeat my earlier reply:
#1
Please do not look at everything with a 'separation-phobia'. The issue I am arguing is not about separation is justified or not. As I have indicated many a times, I am dead against separation. I am talking about the existence of Tamils in Sri Lanka in the pre-historic period and the existance of Tamil Kingdoms in the north-east of Sri Lanka. Some might use that to justify a separate state in the North-East but not me.
#2
By including the minorities in the political process, by addressing their issues and by avoiding discrimination, these countries have found a way to maintain their unity. If you look at all these countries they have all adopted more decentralized political process through Federalism which we have failed to do.
That has created the rebellion and call for separation.
What we have to do is to address those issues and prevent separation.
We have missed such opportunities many a times and continuing to do so.
If we continue to do so more and more, we will only inching towards separation by default
#3
I too wish that Tamils gave up separtion but the reality is that it will be probably in excahnge for a Federal state.
If you expect that Tamils will give up both, what can I say other than to say 'wishful thinking'.
If the majority had accommadated the concerns of the monorities and treated them as equals in the early stages of the ethnic problem, there would not have been a need for even autonomy; we could have co-existed within a unitary constitution. But now its too late for that.
You repeat
So, only way out for you is to somehow (mis-)interpret history (K Indrapala's work included) to weave a story that there was an Indepdent Tamil Kingdom in SL and today's Tamils are descendants of this Independent Tamil Kingdom hence have the historical right to self determination. Pro-LTTE web sites like Tamil-Canadians are following this approach. Unfortuntely for them and you, no historian accepts these Myths ;-)
Is quoting Prof. Indrapala verbatim from his book, misinterpretation or weaving a story?
Quote again:
Let me quote from Prof. Indrapala from his new book:
P165,
In fact, from other evidences it is known that there was a chiefdom named Nagadipa in the northernmost part of the island. Its ruler appears to have been known as Diparaja and there is a Brahmi record of a Diparaja. Although this record is from Minintale, Pranavitana suggests that the Diparaja mentioned here was the ruler of Nagadipa. Apart from these references to Diparaja, there is at least one early Brahmi record from the Jaffna peninsula itself providing evidence about a chief with a title 'Ko' ( the equivalent of the Prakrit raja in Dravidian languages)
You repeat
Tamils have more rights in SL than USA, UK, Australia, NZ, Norway or any other Western nation. If Tamils can live happy in those countries, they should be even more proud of additional rights they have in SL.
I repeat my reply:
#1
This is the major reason for today's problems.
Tamils in the countries you have referred above are migrants. That is why there is no issue of ownership or rights claims.
In Sri Lanka, we feel that we are natives and that is why the claim for equality
#2
The Tamils or even Sinhalese who migrated overseas in the recent past had done so willingly and have to accept the laws of the land as they knew that when they migrated.
Have a good break.
No more repetition please.
Kula Edited By - Kulakottan - 26 Jul 2006 12:44:12 GMT |
mRNOTRacist
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26 Jul 2006 13:17:01 GMT Report for Abuse
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Has Cobra been Banned??? i haven't seen his usual 1000 posts so far this week - can someone please enlighten me??
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