|
|
Dozens of Tamils flee rebel-held areas in Sri Lanka to escape forced military training
Full News Article
reincarnated
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 27
Member Profile
|
5 Jul 2006 08:25:28 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Nale,
Buddhism is a philosophy. It is totally different from other religions even though many people have made Buddhism in to a religion now. Thats why the correct term for a 'true Buddhist' would be 'a practicing Buddhist'. Not merely because their parents believed it was their religion. So, the more you practice, the better it is for you and your peers irrespective of your religion.
Secondly, if you have studied Buddhism, then you would know that it is not beyond the practicing legal system of the particular country where the individual resides. Meaning, the individual has to follow the legal and the administrative system of that country. That means, the government and the bodies that make a civilized society possible, like the Police, Judiciary, Administration, Armed forces etc etc should function properly if it can be called a 'Country'.
Now my point, JR was the president at that time. He had the responsibilities of a president according to the constitution. It is his responsibility to lead the armed forces. If you were the president at that time, what would you have done when a group of people start killing innocent people indiscriminately? I am not saying that JR was right in all the things that he did. In fact many of our current problems have roots in his constitution and initiations of his time. There are many mistakes in our recent history. Most of them due to the greed and the selfishness of our political leaders. But, please don't try to justify the killings of anyone, for whatever the reason.
I can write a lot about this but for the moment I would make a request from you, please consider your allegiance to a leader who orders killing of new born and unborn children, women, pregnant or otherwise and unarmed civilian men, all of whom had not done anything against him or the cause he pursues. I can go on and on but I think you get my point.
Thanks for the welcome. Hope to have a constructive dialog with you. |
nale
Senior Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3578
Member Profile
|
5 Jul 2006 10:27:36 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Reincarnated,
LTTE came into existance in the early seventies.But violence against tamils and killing of tamils ,instigated,incited and inflamed by the sinhalese politicians like JR, who led the demostration against the BC pact and the state terrorism releashed aginst the peaceful sathiyagraga led by the pacifist-S.J.V. Chelvanaykam stared way back in the fifties.Tamils were the victims of violence at the hands of sinhalese and when the tamils decided to defend themselves against violence releashed by the sinhala state terrorism, you are blaming the them.That is not fair. |
petijo1
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2302
Member Profile
|
5 Jul 2006 10:38:24 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Reincarnated!
Buddhism is a philosophy. It is totally different from other religions even though many people have made Buddhism in to a religion now.
Welcome to the forum.
Cobra and many others are speaking the goodness of Buddhism and waiting for the Time to come of carpet bombings on Tamil?s heads.
Secondly, if you have studied Buddhism, then you would know that it is not beyond the practicing legal system of the particular country where the individual resides. Meaning, the individual has to follow the legal and the administrative system of that country. That means, the government and the bodies that make a civilized society possible, like the Police, Judiciary, Administration, Armed forces etc etc should function properly if it can be called a 'Country'.
The Administration of Gosl, can not pursue with Buddhism, All sort of atrocities committed by SL forces and individuals can not be considered the philosophy de Buddhism.
Most of them due to the greed and the selfishness of our political leaders. But, please don't try to justify the killings of anyone, for whatever the reason.
Until politicians repent from their ravenousness and selfishness the killings will continue, no termination of ethnical issue.
I can write a lot about this but for the moment I would make a request from you, please consider your allegiance to a leader who orders killing of new born and unborn children, women, pregnant or otherwise and unarmed civilian men, all of whom had not done anything against him or the cause he pursues. I can go on and on but I think you get my point.
To whom concern this request to LTTE or SLA?
Conclusion is a double minded man is unstable in his all ways. War or peace?
Edited By - petijo1 - 5 Jul 2006 10:41:14 GMT |
reincarnated
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 27
Member Profile
|
5 Jul 2006 12:38:25 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Dear Nale,
Violence against citizens by the state machinery or by other groups was not limited to Tamils. I don't deny that there must have been instances. But, the fact remains that whoever undertakes violence, they do that as a means to achieve something. Remember 1989? How many Singhala kids died?
Poverty is also the common to all races.
All other problems too!
After independence, how many Tamils were in very high positions? The Tamil political parties were not doing their duties. But, for someone who wants to start a diversion from the main issues, they are OPPORTUNITIES.
They can say, you suffer because of Singhala people, you are poor because of Singhala people etc etc and then they can try to achieve their selfish dreams. Even now, the majority of the Tamil community in Sri Lanka live in the government controlled areas. Almost 50% of the population in Colombo is Tamil. The Tamil political parties leverage the making and breaking of the governments. How much has the Tamil population in Sri Lanka has grown in the last 20 years? Which country in the world has 3 languages as their national language? Hill country Tamils have been awarded the citizenship. I can go on. You have to think of the rights that are denied by the constitution / law and mobilize a community to change that. If not, you have to mobilize the community to become united and achieve those rights. Currently what I see is that LTTE is more about dividing than uniting. If we stop dividing people based on cast, color, religion, language, race or anything else at least now we can achieve something in this forum.
Do you know about the Tamil National Movement in the sixties in Tamil Nadu? They wanted to separate TN from India and Jawaharlal Nehru imposed the clauses from the constitution. What I see is that this movement spilled over to Sri Lanka with a lot of support from TN.
If we talk about the past and history, we can argue forever but let's think of now and what should be done now.
Maybe these questions will help:
Many armed movements started but which one remains and how and why?
What is the number one killer of Tamil leaders and people?
Who deprives Tamil Children of a childhood?
What is the main cause keeping the Tamils & Singhalese apart now?
How are Tamils in LTTE controlled areas deprived of proper living standards?
Why people in LTTE controlled areas are kept uneducated and closed to the outside world?
How a propaganda machine can oil a war for decades?
Sorry that I can not reply faster due to my work, but will try my best. |
nale
Senior Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3578
Member Profile
|
5 Jul 2006 14:33:33 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Incarnated
If we talk about the past and history, we can argue forever, lets think of now and what should be done now
Agreed!
What we should do now is to share power.VP said in 2004 Maveerar Day speach, that if the SL government come out with a solution to the etnic problem,based on internal self determination giving power to the tamils to administer their traditional homeland-that is,North and East,without the centre interfearing in the internal affairs of the tamils homeland,then they May CONSIDER IT.Now let the SL government come out with such a proposal and we will take it from there. |
reincarnated
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 27
Member Profile
|
6 Jul 2006 09:27:37 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Thanks Petijo1,
Cobra and many others are speaking the goodness of Buddhism and waiting for the Time to come of carpet bombings on Tamil?s heads.
Maybe you didn't read what I wrote properly.
First, I don't approve of any killings of innocent people. So, carpet bombing is out of the Q.
Second, even though Cobra has good ideas I don't have to approve them ALL.
The Administration of Gosl, can not pursue with Buddhism, All sort of atrocities committed by SL forces and individuals can not be considered the philosophy de Buddhism.
If GoSL has been acting in accordance with Buddhism, there wouldn't be any trouble at home now, would it? The problem is that there are no monks even who know proper Buddhism which is very practical and is a way of life. When the preachers of Buddhism are only preaching and that also in Pali and people listen to the sermon thinking that it will wash all their sins how can we call anyone a Buddhist?
Until politicians repent from their ravenousness and selfishness the killings will continue, no termination of ethnical issue.
We have to be realistic now dear. Do you think that the hypocrites we have for politicians today will repent anything? No way! The political system that has been established now is almost corrupt beyond repair. We as people must make a consensus now becoming educated as what is really happening and what we should do united. We need new leaders who can unite the country by peaceful means. I know one thing. The big majority of the Singhala population don't hate or discriminate other races including Tamils. Personally I know that all the Singhalese around me don't have any issue or anger towards Tamils but do despise LTTE. In my family itself, we treat our domestic helper who is Tamil as part of the family. Secondly, the vast majority of the Tamils in SL are dealing with Singhalese everyday at all levels. It is a fact that Commercially the Tamils are dominating the many aspects and if the majority of Singhalese are discriminatory then they would not patronage those Tamil establishments. Anyone should go to Malaysia to see what is real discrimination for Tamils & Chinese for that matter at all levels.(Will post some stats later regarding that)
Now you can see that there is no real ethnic issue here as within Singhalese themselves and Tamils themselves they have more problems and disagreements than this. Thus, If the majority of all races can live together then what we need right now is to unite them under one flag! But, all the corrupt politicians and the LTTE will not like that as then they can not achieve their selfish objectives.
To whom concern this request to LTTE or SLA?
Conclusion is a double minded man is unstable in his all ways. War or peace?
Peace!The request is to you, whoever is reading.
1. Identify who is killing the innocent. Is it the LTTE or is it the politicians?(I don't want to call it the government as it includes many good people still)
Contd. |
reincarnated
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 27
Member Profile
|
6 Jul 2006 09:58:27 GMT Report for Abuse
|
(Contd. from my prev post... Ran out of space, phew!)
2. Identify why. Is it to terrorise them? Is it to prove a point? Is it to force to subjugation? Why?
3. Make peace with everyone rather than bicker for petty things like I see in this forum. WE can make a start right here and NOW! If hearts of people are united and help to heal the wounds of the past the corrupt politicians and the murderous LTTE will have to heed one way or another.
By the way dear Petijo1, who is the 'double minded man'? In case you are refering to me, can you point out the part that I indicated the same.
Love and peace to all. |
reincarnated
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 27
Member Profile
|
6 Jul 2006 10:05:22 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Dear Nale,
Thanks for agreeing at least on one thing.
But, better not quote someone who's not so reliable. Seems like people are worshipping him. Better come out of the box and think for yourself what the real issues are and make a suggestion to solve those issues without killing innocent people, don't you think? Just a thought...
Gotta go now. Will reply properly tomorrow if I have time.
Love and peace. |
|
Search All News and Discussions