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 4 Jul 2006 16:10:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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Moranifes,
Here we go again,
Similarly, it is because of Gautama Buddha preached about the Eight Fold Path that the Buddhists 'believe ' in that concept although I doubt all Buddhist must be harkening or practicing that message !. Did the Buddha talk of God, Heaven and Hell... NO. If that would be so where is the place for Jathaka stories which are full of gods, hellfire and a sort of bliss which could be classified as heavan. MAny of those stories are MYTHOLOGICAL in nature. MYTHOLOGY IS NOT HISTORY. Mythology is something akin to FICTION.
You seem to be doing the same mistake again and again and calling yourself not a fanatic. By asking questions about religion from you, I will be hurting my other muslim friends on the forum. Myths are always around, it is very hyard to distinguish between the myths and beliefs in religious terms. Why do I not ask who wrote the quran? Because it's irrelevant, if it is my religion, I'll respect it and that will do.
Your knowledge about Buddhism needs polishing up if you want to talk about it again. Yes Buddha was in heaven before he was born. The Gods invited him to be born in this world, when the world needed a spiritual leader. Have you heard about that? There are lot of Gods we talk about but the Buddhism is about Buddha's philosophy, not about those Gods. It's not 'written by God', but designed to make the world a better place. In most terms, Buddhism is more scientific than many other religions, because iot doesn't believe in a lot but describes a philosophy. However, that's not to be argued or compared. Certainly not with you who only know the word 'Buddhism' nothing else. For God's sake, please leave it alone and practise what you know better, if you do know any that is.
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Fairplay,
If you are drunk, no use reading my post.
The Lankans Buddhist monks are at the forefront of every combat for the nations freedom. They have an inbuilt capacity to sense the dangers and if you were not able to convince them of your authenticity, wait and read books. After all Monks write many books in Singhala and English.
Venerable Walpola Rahula's writings may greatly help you.
Your bias against Lanaka Buddhism arises from your conditionnings(Karmic links), when you see those links for what they are, you will see the smile of the Lankan Buddhism.
In Lanka, Buddhism is in Singhala and Pali which shows who preserve it. Singhalas can be really proud this heritage.
Long live Lanka Buddha Sasana preserved by the Singhala people.
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BunkerBuster,
You said that If I am drunk, there is no point in reading your post.
Sir, please tell me if I have ever said that I get drunk.
You are unable to ascertain the difference between a Social drinker and One who drinks to get drunk.
Because I was a Social drinker only I was able to learn Buddhism whilst sipping liquor. Assumptions have killed humans in my birth land SL. Please refrain from making assumptions when you are referring to peoples traits,values,culture and character.
From your stance I could begin to think that you are a Monk and will be all willing to address you as Venerable.
But the name you have chosen for youself and your prejudices do not permit to continue so.
Further bringing the matter to a short version, as you say high about Lanka Buddhism and that singhalese have preserved it sensing the danger to the nation etc. Good for them.
Hence my question, Is it the reason why a Singhala Buddhist Monk killed SWRD Bandaranayake for any danger he was posing for the Buddhists who propagate Buddhism in the only known language Singhala; that SWRD made as the official language carving out an opportunity to disseminate every piece of Buddhist information for the majority community precluding other languages from participation.
Fortification of Buddhism in Lanka was a political move by the Singhala Monks. SWRD Banda helped the Monks to achieve that goal.
The malicious Singhala Monastery proved it's substandard human values by it's verdict to kill SWRD Bandaranayake.
Lord Buddha's philosophy denounced malice and embraced affection,love and kindness. The singhala monastery that cannot exercise these values to perfection has long lost it's validity and existance by virtue of it's deeds.
Therefore Singhala/ Lanka Buddhism is good for only those who adore sub standard human values only.
Sir, A political entity in the name of Lanka/singhala Buddhism is not Lord Buddhas Buddhism. I am here to talk about Lord Buddha's Buddhism only and not any Sepala, Siripala or Sumanapala's Buddhism.
If you call it to be proud, you need to take a hike down the reality lane, for Lord Buddha taught people about and how to CONTRAST,COMPARE and CONCEIVE in your mind. NOT IN YOUR BLOOD AS SINGHALESE!
Sir, Kottanjena panjale injan kuppiyawatte panjala wenak vanata vadinna miniyatath therena baasawen thamai Buddhu dharmaya therum karanna oney. Try some liquor, I bet you you will speak with an open mind.
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Kamalpere2...You said:
Morafines
can you clarify why concept of allah is not a myth & why concepts od vishnu or rama.ravana or catholic God are myths? beliving of a God is the myth.'
Alright...If the concept of the belief in A God whether it be Allah in Islam or Vishnu or Rama in Hinduism is a Myth.
Then it is pointless discussing this Subject with you as you are an Atheist who doesn't believe in a GOD.
But, many people in Buddhism although 'claim' not to believe in a god eventually under different circumstances
talk of their 'Deiyyo'. I am beginning to wonder which 'deiyyo' are they talking about?!. You see, Perera..I Believe in God which in the Arabic Language is Allah. Under no circumstances would my stance change ,not because of being Fanatic, but, because I believe in God.
Believing or having FAITH in God cannot be termed as being Fanatic. If that would be the case all the Christians, Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus would be Fanatics.
I am not a hypocrite ,like many among the Sinhalese who would say that they don't believe in a god, but inside their subconscious mind they have a belief in God. There are
Millions of Sinhalese in Sri Lanka who believe in all the Pantheon of the Hindu Gods when the occasion demands; and so is their belief in 'auspicious time ', Thovil, Bili and all the Kattadiyas. If there is no belief in a God, why believe all the above and the Kattadiya ?!.The reason for that is because in Buddhism there is no god who is the Central Figure in their rituals or faith. As a result they are compelled to believe in a Hindu god or in all the other mundane activities.
GOD is a BELIEF in all the faiths. If the Christians prefer to believe that Jesus is god...well and fine thats their BELIEF. If the Buddhists are so carried away with all the Jathaka Stories ..well it is their BELIEF and similarly if they wish to show obeisance to Buddha....in a similar manner as god... well and fine, because thats their BELIEF. B-E-L-I-E-F in that sense is quite different to MYTHOLOGY. Well, if you prefer to call Ravana who is a mythological figure because there is no valid history, that a man called Ravana lived in Sri Lanka...it is your wish you could believe Ravana as god or that he existed. I have no objections. GO AHEAD.BUT YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO RAVANA IN THE MAHAWAMSA CHRONICLES. The reason is because he is a pre-historic 'Manakkalpitha' character. |
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No doubt! Prabhakaran is a product of thamilnadu.
got to find the genuis who say this. |
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BunkerBuster,
Thanks for the compliments accorded to my Military life.
I still do work with GOSL.
As for soul searching, Military men have found and located themselves in every niche and corner within their country and outside the country as time and facilities permit. Thabaruma/Tavern is not an exception.
Men/women in defence can't expect a bed of roses for themselves until death.
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BunkerBuster
Morafines also an ignorant person who can not understand how things happend, but he can comment on what happended and put the blame on Sinhalese and buddhists. |
Jillball
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Morafines,
I am not a hypocrite ,like many among the Sinhalese who would say that they don't believe in a god, but inside their subconscious mind they have a belief in God. There are
Millions of Sinhalese in Sri Lanka who believe in all the Pantheon of the Hindu Gods when the occasion demands; and so is their belief in 'auspicious time ', Thovil, Bili and all the Kattadiyas. If there is no belief in a God, why believe all the above and the Kattadiya ?!.The reason for that is because in Buddhism there is no god who is the Central Figure in their rituals or faith. As a result they are compelled to believe in a Hindu god or in all the other mundane activities
You give us the impression that you are either writing from a Bin Laden's den or you are funded by him. Each of your writing, you indicate you know nothing so why waste time trying to teach others the things that you do not know? Why not go and read and learn something useful if you ever want to talk about them?
You are inviting the rest to write what they think about Islam. Those who reply you are trying to be very careful not to hurt other muslims, yet you keep speaking what you do not know about somebody else's religion.
Buddhism has Gods and it stems down from Hinduism, but I have no interest in answering a fanatic.
By the way, when did you see your GP last? Here is a simple therapy for you. Do you have a swimming pool near where you are? If not, travel to the next city and find a pool and keep your head under water for a few hours, that will cure your madness, the fanaticism. Otherwise, if you keep doing what you do now, you will end up under an American bomb in Kabul.
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Bunkerbuster... you say: 'I find you to be a very reasonable person except in the domain of religion !!
You find Buddhism non practical and I find it perfectly practical and still God willed so ! '
My reply...You see BUSTER...Buddhism is a good message for people who are interested in the spiritual life. But, when it comes to inter-action with either your wife, family, relatives and others, there seem to be a void as there seem to be no solid answers to many issues. Because the reason is Gautama Siddhartha gave up his family life to go in search of 'enlightenment'. In a similar manner
- extinguishing ones 'Aasha & Tanha' is an extremely difficult matter, in a practical sense, in our daily lives'.
YES..we could subdue them and be patient, but not eliminate them. Simply because I write this does not mean Buddhism is bad, but I am only saying of the 'practicing' aspect of the Faith.
You are saying -' that you find Buddhism perfectly practical and still God willed so'...?!. I am wondering which GOD of YOURS, WILLED SO?!.
If the Thathagata when questioned was 'silent' about gods, it construes that he did not believe in gods. Am I right?!.
Religion with the belief in God, for some and not for others, doesn't matter as far we lead a life which is moderate without indulging in excesses. That is the most important thing. Talking about the beauty of ones Religion or Faith and resorting to vice is the most heinous crime a human could do. This should be understood as a first step. Buddhism as preached by the Buddha does not have an IMPACT on the daily lives of People is quite evident in todays society.
That doesn't mean you should convert to another Faith. You could stay where you are.. if it satisfies your requirement of a 'spiritual life' !.
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All religions are fancy things, buddhism, christianity, Islam, Hindunism, all are same.
If somebody says his religion is better than others or his religion is practical while others are not, he is a fanatic or a blind. so is Mr. Morafines
More he talks about buddhism, more he shows he is a Islamic fanatic.
So just get over your minority complex, see the world with open eyes. |
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Dumindak... sorry to have made you irritable !. I really did not mean to 'demean' Buddhism and honestly that is not my intention. If you or anyone else were to ask me about anything relating to my faith, which you guys would feel un-acceptable..I would have been more than willing to explain in the context of such practices.
The subject under discussion between me and others like Cobra was about Faith and hence my explanation and in that process, I had to dig into Buddhism as well. It so happens that whenever Comparative Religion is discussed ,such irritations do occur and cannot be helped. The best we could do is stop talking about Religion in the first place.
Your irritation itself is ample proof that such a dialog will not be tolerated and cannot be continued in a healthy manner.
I being a Muslim had not felt inferior while I was domiciling in Sri Lanka and I don't have any inferiority complexes for sure !. I really mean it !. Because, 'numbers of any adversary' does not make me or any Muslim afraid.
The reason is my Faith teaches me and everyone among us - - 'to be good to our neighbors and deal with them in a friendly, cordial and a 'brotherly' manner. But, should the 'brother' try to be too smart, then we too are expected to reciprocate in kind.
We don't believe in 'giving the right cheek when one smites on the left'. Such sayings are 'beauties' in theory ,but would not work with a Hitler, Mussolini,VP or a, ordinary man on the street who would be provocated.
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