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GalleDuke
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5 Jul 2006 11:41:17 GMT Report for Abuse
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LULA
How about we start in 1977 - to talk of a tamil homeland |
LuLa Senior Member
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5 Jul 2006 14:30:58 GMT Report for Abuse
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GalleDuke,
Oooh dear, by 1977, the Tamils lost their traditional native land.
After the Portuguese arrived, they subdued the Tamil kingdom and killed the last Tamil king Sankili Kumaran11 of the Traditional Tamil land.
Before him, there were 20 Tamil Kings beginning from Koolangai Singai Aryan who ruled the Traditional Tamil land and they were all accepted by the Sri Lankan Tamils as their kings.
Many colonial officers/scholars (Portuguese, Dutch and British) have written books and articles on Sri Lanka, and most of them are available on the internet.
When the Europeans arrived, what all of them clearly saw and experienced during their period was that, there were two different ethnic groups/nations having two different languages, religions, cultures, and living in two well defined and clearly and naturally (jungles, lakes, etc) demarcated land areas with their own kingdoms within their traditional lands.
Arrow smith's 1857 map of Ceylon, indicate that Sinhalese area can be distinguished from Tamil areas by the language used for place-names, including those designated for natural and human-made features.
Here, we are talking about a group of people/ethnic group/nation who lived for a millennium in this country within a well defined and very clearly and naturally demarcated land area (almost one-third of the country comprising of two provinces/many districts) with their own kingdoms legally accepted by the native people of that land (Ceylon Tamils) who were a majority within their Traditional native land. You can take the French community in Quebec, Canada as an example.
When the British were ruling the country, they united the whole country as a unitary state/ single administration for their convenience, but unfortunately when they gave the unexpected (never requested) independence, they gave the entire country to the majority (Sinhalese) without consulting the minorities (Tamils).
In India, during independence, the wise Muslim leaders like Mohd. Ali Ginna successfully separated the Muslims into a separate land (Pakistan), where as our Tamil leaders who started protesting at the beginning later made a huge blunder by believing the Sinhala leaders when they called them sahodarayas and promised them all the rights.
Starting from then, the father of the nation, D.S. Senanayake started colonizing the Sinhalese in the Traditional Tamil lands.
All those Sinhalese who are living in the NorthEast today were colonized after 1948 by DS Senanayake government.
If you ask them, each one of them will say that their grandfather or great grandfather is from the South.
Today, with the latest technology, the research on History/Archeology has taken a different path. Some of the theories put forward by the historians of the sixties like Prof. Senarat Paranavitana are found to be incorrect.
The best part is there is a new breed of pseudo-historians (His-story tellers) among both Sinhalese and Tamils who are undermining the true professional/academic traditions of Sri Lankan history by twisting, turning and misinterpreting history to their advantage.
I recommend that you read the books/articles written by the present day, renowned Sri Lankan historians and archeologists like K Indrapala, Siran Deraniyagala, Leslie Gunawardena and Sudarshan Seneviratne to get a better idea of the Sri Lankan history.
Now, if a group of people, especially confined mainly to a specific region are oppressed or deprived of their fundamental freedoms and as rightful citizens/natives of that specific land, are dissatisfied with their treatment, then they have a right to seek greater autonomy or even in extreme circumstances, a complete independence from what they feel is an oppressive state. That right to self-determination is a valid right and an excepted right in many international treaties.
Remember,
The LTTE is the direct consequence of the Sinhala Buddhist policy to refuse to share the wealth/political power, and instead suppress the legitimate Tamil rights by violent means.
Of course, I do agree with you that the monster what the GOSL created(LTTE) are a bunch of terrorists and their terrorist acts such as killing innocent civilians should be condemned.
But, on the other hand, the Sri Lankan Armed forces are also a bunch of state sponsored Terrorists, they are highly racist and most indisciplined non-Tamil speaking (Sinhala) armed forces, forcefully occupying the traditional Tamil areas.
Will you be happy if an extremely racist, highly indisiplined, and non Sinhala speaking group of soldiers armed to the teeth roam around in your village/home town/traditional native land and harass, detain, torture, rape and kill your people?
How long will it take for the Sinhalese youth to take up arms to fight them?
My dear Duke of Galle, by 1977, we have lost everything and finally we were attacked and very badly humiliated. From independence, for many years, we were at the receiving end, thanks to the Sinhala sahodarayas; the Tamils have become a hardened race and are able to withstand any hardship or ready to face any challenges. Edited By - LuLa - 6 Jul 2006 04:01:24 GMT |
Sintamus Senior Member
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5 Jul 2006 21:25:03 GMT Report for Abuse
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Priyanthy,
Cobra is in his infancy as regards his religious and political knowledge. He does not know it was Sinhala Only that started the ethnic problem.
He doesn't know it was Sri Lankan leaders who pressurised India to take those upcountry indegenus plantation workers who built the economy of this country.
He doesn't know it was SL that exploited India's frostly relationships with her neighbours to her advantage and got Katchitivu as her territory.
He did not know it was SL that facilitated the Pakistan jets to bomb former East Pakistan and kill Bangaladeshi civilians and Pakistani soldiers rape Babladeshi women.
That's why India had to intervene and help secede EP to form an Independent Bangladesh.
He also did not know it was SL's unreasonable and unruly treatments of minorities that prompted late Mrs Gandhi to help Tamil militatants fight for their lost rights. |
DrAkai Senior Member
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5 Jul 2006 21:41:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Bunker B,
Its always nice to read some of your writings on Buddhism and its dissemination. I feel the Buddhism is primarily aimed for the strong spiritual minded soul than a mere form of living. Especially things in Dhammapada and Thripitaka are aimed for them. It would not be a fallacy if I say that most Buddhists lack in Buddhist philosophy. What they do is mere rituals of offering flowers and lighting joss sticks etc. But deep down Buddhism of soul searching is left somewhere.
For an example the practicality of Buddhism is not understood such as the four noble truths which lead to this suffering. It would be interesting to see how Buddhism can survive in its true face in the wake of more material style lives oriented with other religions.
As Buddha himself said, it takes the strong mind to assimilate what the real life is which is free from suffering and that needs absolute dedication.
Now I would like to use the same aspect of Buddhism that Buddha taught us to the current political set up. We know that our politicians are responsible for the current ethnic mess up. And what do they do? Still loitering here and ther without concrete practical solutions. There only aim is to survive another stint of tenure.
That is why Buddha said,
'They sarang nadi gachchanthi, michcha sankkappa gochara' thinking that the fruition is fallacy and fallacy as fruition so goes on hence no obtaining of fruition after all. What a word of wisdom by the Great man!
Budusaranai |
LuLa Senior Member
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6 Jul 2006 10:16:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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Bunker
LuLa's writings show how expansionist Tamils are.
Facts are stubborn and sometimes it stabs/hurts. |
DrAkai Senior Member
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8 Jul 2006 09:48:06 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Bunker B,
I do not count on 'Budusarana' any more my hair becoming grey ! It is not because I do not venerate Him as the greatest of all men, but since His Nirvana, only Dhamasarana and Sangasarana can be effective according to my comprehension
I fully comprehend your point here and there is no two words on that. The reason I feel to call 'Budusarana' than the next two is He who the person who discovered the next two hence the credit duly applies to the great man him self. Obviously 'Dahama' the teachings what we should look at more closely and follow where 'Sangha' can help us to guide while prevailing the 'Dahama'
As you said we tend to be very stressed with this ethnic mess and I agree we all have a part to create an awareness for the betterment but I feel we only can do one part of it for being Non-politicians whereas those are democratically elected have the definite power to implement what is best for those have elected them to the parliament hence they are responsible in guiding us in the right direction than being blindly taking us some 'NOWHERE', if they don't do what the folks require them to do then we have the right to remove from their chairs and elect better ones. But in my view I often get very frustrated in seeing that people are not any more any practical when it comes to things like seeing the clarity and broad day light in a problem that drags on and on. Electing any of these UNP or SLFP buffoons, this is one of the key issues that driving my frustration head over heels with the president Mahinda Rajapaksha. People are suffering at the hands of his decisions and needless to say we lost more soldiers and civilians during his 8 + months tenure so far and still he finds unable to come to a real decision than hovering here and there for different kinds of tactics.
I am sure we are stranded in trying to figure out what is on cards now. |
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