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3 Jul 2006 13:19:20 GMT Report for Abuse
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Nada,
As I have been telling time and again for some of the people who have used to this numerical dominance any one who talk about the rights of the minority will become 'terrorists' or LTTE immediately and I am well aware that I or for that matter even Lord Buddha will be ever able to change that mind set.
Minority rights are not different to majority rights. We all have the same rights. You are still stuck in the past, I am afraid; be it minority or majority, those may have been issues those days but hardly anymore.
There you are...the slip is showing too well of an 'unbalanced man'.... he is a Sinhalese who speaks some sense according to millions who support him and for you he is a name sake only. What prevented you from calling him a traitor? But for them Kadir and many others at the payroll of the yes men list are angels of peace, truth, honesty and fairness. Jillball, this is where the basic problem is, the mind set, the perception.......so there is nothing seem to be as absolute, isn't it..all are subjective...!
See you are mistaken again, I have no reason whatsoever to call Brian a traitor. Let me put my point to you again, Brian doesn't speak Sinhala whereas Sangaree does speak tamil. When you compare Brian to and contrast Sangaree with Naleen, his chances of being reinstated becomes slim. I was only trying to be helpful to Naleen, because not only me, but even the administrators know these facts.
The option of whether I am with the LTTE or with the like of Kadirgamar, please leave it to me and let the time decide that. I have only to answer my very conscience and certainly my mind is not distorted by various inputs or insights and I have clear mental faculty to know what is right and what is wrong. Surely you don't expect me to go by what you promise Jillball, proof of the pudding is in the eating
That's not a question my friend, your rights and views are yours and I have no argument about that. In deed the proof is in the tasting, not the pudding.
Hope I have explained your position and my position. Let me reiterate, you are what you eat and I have no problem with that. I only said, appeals by very pro-LTTErs could only damage any chances of this guy's account being reinstated, if there's any that is. It's not a criticism, just an observation.
You have a good day, bye for now.
Edited By - Jillball - 3 Jul 2006 13:22:07 GMT |
nada
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4 Jul 2006 01:43:25 GMT Report for Abuse
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My Pal Jillball,
Thanks for your reasonably researched article with references, quotes, etc., but unfortunately your conclusion is perhaps wanting in depth and logic, as your data collection had been defective.
I could see you mellowing down a little to re-phrase from calling me an LTTEer to 'LTTE friendly'. You will face immense difficulty not only in SL but globally to find a SL Tamil who is not 'LTTE friendly', thanks to your past misdeeds (when I say you, it does not necessarily mean Jillball).
You are inevitably caught up in the majority-media-propaganda-syndrome of Sri Lanka where misleading and distorted information are churned out and thrown lavishly at the majority who without any hesitation swallow the whole stuff very faithfully. This is part of a cultural pattern unlike among the Tamils who are more cautious. No journalist are allowed to visit the Tamil area, see what is happening or interview them or allowed to publish. You would have heard recently journalist were taken to the north in an army convoy, my dear Jill have you ever seen any thing worse than that?
Your so-called anti LTTE group forms a small insignificant number of propped up people by the government for their own benefit and also they select the suitable vulnerable elements that could 'faithfully swallow the stuff'.
THEIR PRESENCE IF FELT, IS NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCH A POWERFUL OR A RESPECTED GROUP BUT BECAUSE OF THE PROP GIVEN FROM BEHIND BY THE HANDLERS AND THE SO-CALLED MEDIA / POLITICAL BACK UP.
You let your anti-LTTE fighting unit out of your lap and see for how long they could carry on? So by virtue of all the political failures and physical torments for decades beyond other things, Tamils have gone into the laps of the LTTE and they will continue to do so until a reasonable solution is reached.
But if you ask a Tamil in Colombo for your research.....the Tamil guy will blast the LTTE in front of you and behind you will say what an idiotic question this fellow had asked!!!!!
So almost all the SL Tamils are 'LTTE Friendly' as mentioned by you and the number is more than significant. This attitude is inevitable and no point for you to scream from top of the roof and after all it is not their fault.
I certainly agree that Tamil emancipation and terrorism are different but scholars and educated elite like you have not given a way how Tamils could achieve emancipation in SL under the Sinhala rule? Will you also answer why the Tamils failed all these years with their Ahimsa movement, democratic agitation and many other means? Is there any democratic option left open to Tamils at present?
JILLBALL HISTORY DO NOT START HALF WAY AT A POINT CONVENIENT TO SOME ONE, BUT FROM THE OUTSET.
Your quote:
Whenever unbiased Tamil like Oldpuli on this forum or Kathiragamar/sangaree on hard political stage speak out against terrorism, you are in forefront bashing them .
The above research was similar to the street research I was referring to and again your terrible vulnerability is exposed where you try to conclude an important hypothesis based on some casual postings where many don?t even give due thoughts while writing or for some it is just poking fun.
See you are mistaken again, I have no reason whatsoever to call Brian a traitor
I never said that you did that, but I was only asking you a question as to why don?t you call him a traitor because he speaks on the injustices done to the Tamils.
Jillball, just give up this habit of jumping up and claiming people as LTTEers or terrorist simply because they talk of the minority rights. But one reality, a bitter pill that you have to accept, is that the vast majority of Tamils are ?LTTE friendly? by virtue of the blunders committed by the majority.
If you want to arrive at an educated opinion, I beg you not to go by the SL Media and the so-called SL observers who for all intents and purposes talk utterly distorted versions and from which you will never be able to draw any scientific evaluation.
Then lastly your another opinion:
I only said, appeals by very pro-LTTErs could only damage any chances of this guy's account being reinstated, if there's any that is
What do you really mean by that and whom you have decided as LTTEers? Is it by the road side interviews, or investigating as to whether they are in the LTTE cadre or people who openly talk about the injustices done to them and analyse them in a an academic or logical manner? So any one who argues for or highlights the grievances of the Tamils are ?Pro-LTTE? according to your definition and thus they have no right to come to the rescue of some one who has been at the receiving end of an injustice. Such people who highlight genuine grievances have no respect or place in this forum? Am I to assume that justice will only be done to those who openly condemn the Tamils as unreasonable people or Sinhala bashers or who kill innocent Sinhalese for no reason what so ever or for the sin of defending themselves against armed aggression?
To summarise Tamils are the victims and they will naturally resort to any possible means available to overcome their difficulties. It depends on the WISDOM of the majority to bring peace and stability to SL. Merely accusing them, simply because you have all the resources on your side, will push even the little left over Tamils into the laps of the LTTE.
Jillball, you must design a new method before calling some one as LTTE |
Jillball
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4 Jul 2006 09:54:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Nada,
I will try taking time to read and reply yours, but briefly, as you seem to have misunderstood, from my first post, I identified you as one of the'ardent supporters of LTTE' or 'LTTE friendly' or 'pro-LTTE', where the meaning has always been the same. Just FYI. |
tamilcanuck
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4 Jul 2006 17:13:30 GMT Report for Abuse
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Jillball wrote
but my point is, when people like you, tamilcanuck and others who are ardent supporters of LTTE, speak for the victim in this banning saga, the balance of the request fades away, his chances of being restored become slim.
Nada & Jillball,
whether it was the LTTE, the UNP or the Admins the fact is NAleen is Back. did some investigation and was able to follow his footprints! |
AnuD
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5 Jul 2006 03:07:17 GMT Report for Abuse
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Nada:
Is a relative of Pottan.
He is LTTE - in the sense that he never condemned LTTE killings. On the other hand, he does not jump up and down when LTTE kills some one including SLA because he wants to show that he is civilized.
Tamilcanuck is no different. |
nada
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5 Jul 2006 05:02:15 GMT Report for Abuse
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AnuD Pundit,
Have you ever, ever ....ever condemned the butchering of innocent Tamil civilians by the armed forces, or by your paid heroes or by aerial bombing, shelling and shooting.
Have you ever condemned the killing of Tamil civilians by the Sinhala civilians?
In fact you are paid to say here that all those Tamil civilian deaths were LTTE propaganda. What happened to your famous Pesalai propaganda, what happened to your MR's inquiry?
You are the one who said that even in 1958 the Tamils were killed by the LTTE!
You are the one who created trouble in Kandy in 1977 by saying Sinhala Breasts came in fish boxes from Jaffna.
When you slaughter the Tamils, the Tamils have to keep quite or even praise you guys and when LTTE kills the Sinhala army in conflict you expect the Tamils to cry with you, scream with you, hoist white flags and condemn LTTE.
Enna madayanada nee?
Because of blind bats like you only the country is profusely bleeding today. Guys like you are happily (?) living in the West claiming refugee status.
WAKE UP MAN WAKE UP
Wake up man wake up,
The time has come for you guys to wake up
If you don't wake up
The history will soon forget you all
The time is running out you guys,
Wake up guys wake up
You can't go on hoodwinking others guys,
The people are conscious now you guys,
The days are numbered for conners like you guys,
How long you can go on distorting the history you guys
2500..2550..and the years keep rolling you guys,
But you guys have still not woken up guys,
Vijaya or Duttegemunu are all imaginary past you guys,
You live on that history and will be left behind guys,
How long press and government can cover the truth you guys,
Wake up guys wake up, for heaven sake wake up
Patriotism is not racialism guys,
Patriotism is learning to respect the minorities you guys,
Violence is not patriotism you guys,
Love for fellow human is patriotism you guys,
Lord Buddha will weep for you guys,
He never thought that it will turn out to be like this you guys,
His superior vision was a broken dream you guys,
May there be wisdom in your thinking you guys,
Wake up you guys, wake up you guys,
In the name of God please wake up you guys,
If you want prosperity and peace,
Learn to live with others you guys,
Number cannot do magic you guys,
In the world of science, small is beautiful you guys,
Wake up you guys, Oh God please wake up you guys,
AnuD please wake up you guy,
Don't live in the past like a pre-historic man you guy,
Wake up to live in the present day you guy,
Ignorance and stupidity will be unpardonable you guy
In the name of God please wake up you guy,
Wake up you guys, wake up you guys
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Jillball
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5 Jul 2006 08:12:32 GMT Report for Abuse
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Tamilcanuck,
Nada & Jillball,
whether it was the LTTE, the UNP or the Admins the fact is NAleen is Back. did some investigation and was able to follow his footprints!
That's good news for him, because he was so down the other day. However, I have just found all his first 50 posts have been replaced with '1111..11'
I wonder he has kicked off any advertising campaign for something (perhaps to promote '1') after he was kicked off.
(also his senior membership has been taken away.)poor soul.
Edited By - Jillball - 5 Jul 2006 08:15:12 GMT |
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