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LTTE responds positively, talks with Oslo peace envoys today
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 21 Jun 2006 00:20:17 GMT Report for Abuse
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Strategist,
You say Please, please, please don't say that this is anactive version of Gandhi's civil disobedience. I am sure you are intelligent enough to differentiate between sacrificial Gandhi and people like VP and TC.
Strategist, we see an issue at individual level, think at institutional level and feel at issue level. Yesterday I read an Indian say about Gandhi that he was the Mother of all debates. That Indian who was limited by racial boundaries (which must have been his reality) found fault with Gandhi for not understanding Muslims and giving in too much to them. But to me Gandhi raised his pain to the International level through self-sacrifice and did not ask or demand of others to follow in his path. The Tigers on the other hand enforce what they see to be right. But they are both for the same purpose - self-rule. Gandhi's work did activate violence through other Indians who are the parallels of today's Tigers. If we can find persons who are ready to 'wait' for the right moment to express their pain at the International level - without causing damage to others - we have found our Gandhi. I do believe that this is the best solution we could find.
VP and his men are not Gandhi. They are the ones who caused most pain to Gandhi for which he fasted and did penance because he felt responsible for their actions and yet could not condemn them openly as he condemned the British. He therefore added himself to these active fighters - and educated them to realise themselves through him. That is the role of a real leader.
VP and his men are limited to military activities. They would however see themselves through genuine Tamils with wisdom but without leadership ambitions at THEIR level. Neelan was killed because Tigers considered him to be their opposition / enemy. Back then, like the JVP they did not know that Neelan was operating at a higher level because he felt Sri Lankan. Now that many Tamils feel International, Tigers who are supported by them would tend to think differently. People like us can add ourselves to them and help them realise their limitations and respect those who have made the sacrifices to participate at the higher and wider levels. Now the fight is between the physical level fighters and the intellectual workers who include others outside the physical boundaries. This has to happen in both camps - Tamil as well as Sinhalese. The intellectual worker who is ready to sacrifice his/her higher work to come down to the level of the physical workers, experience the pain with them and then raise it to the Global level will lead his / her side to success.
Victory in this war could also mean success at International level and it will for those who seek higher and wider.
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21 Jun 2006 00:29:46 GMT Report for Abuse
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Cobra,
Thanks to LTTE Tamils in North and East are the poorest ethnic group in he world. If this is called liberation,
then what is called terror?
This shows how ignorant you are. I lived with the Tamils in North and East and I found them to be more liberal with their money than I am here in Australia. Those in the North / Vanni for example, preferred to use vehicles whereas I walked the distance. They waited for others to clean up the temple whereas I cleaned it up with the help of the poorer Sinhalese workers at reconstructing the Killinochchi hospital. The war has made them relatively richer. That is how the system of karma works. So long as Tamils abroad feel that those back home are fighting for a Common cause - they would continue to send money. Had I been conscious of my wealth here in Australia I would not have appreciated this Truth.
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21 Jun 2006 00:36:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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Strategist,
You say Cobra, has even given some names of people who could have come closer to Ghandhi. They were 'removed'.
The same way the armed forces remove their enemies. It is the fault of Tamils for not having the courage to educate the Tigers to stay within their earned boundaries. The Tamils here in Australia have not openly supported me in my quest to help authorities stay within their boundaries. When my intellect / memory is killed, damaged - I am effectively removed from their playing field. Yet how many of you including Cobra have come and and made a statement to support my work and sacrifices which would benefit ALL WORKERS and ALL SRI LANKANS because I expressly carry the Sri Lankan banner in priority to the Tamil banner.
This forum is proof of the difficulties that Tamils would have had in getting recognized by their own community elders and their governments - be it Sinhalese or Tamil. Only a Sri Lankan would have recognized and appreciated and promoted my work actively. All others are limited by their physical attachments.
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21 Jun 2006 00:47:16 GMT Report for Abuse
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Strategist,
Norway is unlikely to support LTTE in favour of EU or the US. I mean Norway not Erik S.
Then Norway is limited to the results that Mr. Erik S, the individual can produce. The soldier who fights in the consciousness of his country will die a noble death and would not fear death. The soldier who fights for his family would fear the loss that his family would feel at his death. The soldier who fights only for himself would fear his own death. He is the equivalent of the economic worker / customer. The physical level actions may look the same. But the FEELING with which we do our work would take us to the appropriate levels through other genuine workers and beyond them through the system of Natural Justice.
If Mr. Erik S acts in the consciosness of Norway, Norway succeeds when he succeeds. Norway already has at the opportunity level - in preference to US & India.
You say So marginalising monitors from EU countries is likely to be negative. I think this would be a strategic blunder just like TC's posturing in Oslo.
Global Conscious Tamils must add themselves to the good Tigers to uphold Dharma. Where two sides are equally responsible for acting hastily and locally, then the issue must be raised to the International level and kept their by all International investors. We would have then already succeeded. The rest would follow through the next generation. They also need something to do.
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21 Jun 2006 01:10:26 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gaja
Norway succeeds when he succeeds is an interesting one. Erik S is not Norway. Moreover Erik S he himself neutrlised tha statement re EU.
I have to leave now.Just getting ready for an assignment overseas. Will be back later.
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 21 Jun 2006 01:32:03 GMT Report for Abuse
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Cobra,
Sorry to bother you, but I searched Osho as you said.
Unless I am doing something wrong, the results are against your claims.
1. the only known successful use of biological weapons in the United States was by the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh cult in 1984.
2. In 1985 Rajneesh pleaded guilty to immigration fraud and was deported from the United States.
3. He was refused entry by 21 countries before returning to Pune.
I don't want to continue this list. But let's get to the topic.
Sinhalese Buddhists are nothing but beggars. You give the world nothing but a movement called LTTE.
LTTE's only plan to the world is a Liberated Tamil Eelam which will be Economically far superior than Sri Lanka.
Perhaps, you may beg from them too.
Unlike SLA Forces who rely on GOSLs monthly allowance, LTTE cadres never expect anything from LTTE.
By the way, are you a spitter? Don't waste your Venom. |
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21 Jun 2006 01:50:25 GMT Report for Abuse
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Cobra:
There is no country in the world that has had this many bombed, suicide attackes, assassination on leaders and destruction on property, economic loss as that of Sri lanka.
Wrong again. Every civilized super-power had war and destruction. Much, Much worse than Sri Lanka.
Quite frankly, Sri Lanka doesn't have any civilization. Historically the Sinhalese race was depending on Foreign culture.
When the western world was wearing tree leaves Sinhalese were wearing expensive clothes
Funny.
They build resavoiers, dams, bridges, and dagabas even the modern day scientists can only wonder.
I guess the Golden Gate, Akashi-Kaikyo, Brooklyn etc, etc, are copied from Sri Lankan wonders. How many wonders are there in the world again? It's time, you get out and tour the world. See the real wonders. Don't be a frog in a well!
Sinhalese Buddhist Monks are very busy keep proof reading and editing Mahavamsa. The final version will not be ready unless you wipe out all the Tamil speaking community from the Island.
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 21 Jun 2006 01:57:26 GMT Report for Abuse
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Again Norway made this speech on behalf of Tigers and Gulideevan miming it now..
Well done Norwagians.... Work hard to save terrorists even from Aus gov at least (without a ban), even though you all failed at the EU.
Edited By - antiTerra - 21 Jun 2006 02:01:23 GMT |
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| LTTE should not allow Finland, Sweden and Denmark to be part of SLMM. To be a valid peace monitor they should prove that they are bipartisan, which they failed by banning LTTE in EU. |
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21 Jun 2006 03:32:07 GMT Report for Abuse
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Cobra,
Why is there no Tamil home land even in Tamil nadu ?
Bcuz, Tamils can live with anyone who give them equal rights and treat them as humans, even in Lanka they survived with discrimination and fought their way to top through highest education. But when they were crippled every 5 years by the riots, burning Tamil businesses and houses, they released that they can't live with the barbarians and wanted to take control of there feature. |
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