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LTTE responds positively, talks with Oslo peace envoys today
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 20 Jun 2006 23:15:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mahabala
Political troubles between Tamils and Sinhalas in Sri Lanka started in the 50s, and the momentum of violence carried on until 1983 do not selectively ignore what happened prior to July 1983.
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 20 Jun 2006 23:17:02 GMT Report for Abuse
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Very true IslanderSB,
I don't know why they always say that all began in 83 !! |
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 20 Jun 2006 23:20:34 GMT Report for Abuse
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Political trouble always, everywhere. even Jesus, Buddha or any others! Tell me a place if you do not see it? I believe it is even in heaven :))
But destructive act of Tamil youths (That time not LTTE, even other plote, epdf) resulted sudden and feeling based violence against Tamils.
I am sure you are Bellow 30. I am above 50. I know all these son. I have personally protected Tamil shop owners in my area. They are even today, respect me.
I have lots of story to share with you guys. Unfortunately, now I got to go.
All day 14 hours work. Tired!
I will catch you tomorrow.
Good night/morning/evening.
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 20 Jun 2006 23:23:45 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Gaja
I think what is at stake is not whether LTTE are rulers. The future of this enterprising race is at stake. I think SL Tamils have gone back 30 years in terms of their international image, economic position and their dignity. Comments like 'we will unleash suicide bombers' don't go well in the current geopolitical setting of 'global war on terror' .
I think a window of opportunity is opening up for people like Mr Pasupathy to come to the negotiating table and tackle this very complex issue. Thamilchelvam did miss an opportunity in Oslo. I think it is largely because he didn't know anything better.
In my view, the price of not taking this opportunity will be very high.
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20 Jun 2006 23:35:35 GMT Report for Abuse
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Cobra and Islans_SB:
Wht did Prime minister Nehru did when they start claiming dravidastan in Tamil Nadu.
He militarily crushed them like frogs!
This is why Velu began here, to bully the small govt. So, that is what he is doing.
First read TN strugle. then read SL tamil struggle. |
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20 Jun 2006 23:53:58 GMT Report for Abuse
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Thank you Strategist,
You say
I think what is at stake is not whether LTTE are rulers. The future of this enterprising race is at stake.
As per my observations, we are fast becoming like the Jews. This therefore could mean a prolonged war like in the Middle East. To the extent Tamils have worked genuinely they will find their future in the Global Environment. I would therefore say that what is at stake here is the image of Sri Lankan government appointed by majority Sinhalese who do not have the skills to survive outside their parental influence. More and more of their weaknesses would be highlighted at the International level by Tamils who feel that they have no more to gain by supporting Governments and their Policies.
You say I think SL Tamils have gone back 30 years in terms of their international image, economic position and their dignity.
There have been losses due to the physical level war by the Tigers and other groups. But these are being seen in the light of Truth - that the JVP also felt rebellious and their feelings have been embraced by the government now because the JVP is seen to have the backing of the dysenfranchised Sinhalese. Likewise the Tigers and the Tamils. Hence every government that bans the Tigers has the duty to ban JVP or remain silent observers.
The war has helped Tamils contribute to the progress of Western countries. This is a big achievement that would offset the damage through Tigers. Tamils who feel they have benefited from the work and sacrifice of Tigers have to pay their dues to these Tamils who have earned International Credit outside the Sri Lankan political system.
You say Comments like 'we will unleash suicide bombers' don't go well in the current geopolitical setting of 'global war on terror',
As I keep saying from my own discovery - Tigers are a reactionary force. When you condemn the Government for its role in the EU ban - you will have the authority to condemn the Tigers for such threats. This is active version of Gandhi's civil disobedience. Gandhi felt the pain like the average Indian. But Gandhi expressed his pain in a language that the International Community could understand. That is how Gandhi earned the respect of the whole world by having the depth to raise his pain to the Universal level through HIS TRUTH rather than other people's thinking and action.
You say I think a window of opportunity is opening up for people like Mr Pasupathy to come to the negotiating table and tackle this very complex issue.
Mr. Shiva Pasupathy coming forward was a big step for him - especially considering the options available to him. He could have chosen to remain a happy grandfather enjoying his family. But he CHOSE to participate at the wider level, risking his own reputation with his family and community circle. When I went to prison for challenging the Vice Chancellor of the University of New South Wales, I was discouraged from getting involved in such wider issues by many including those within my immediate family circles. Families usually are the first to cling to you. One has to care enough to be able to override such attachment and this is what Mr. Pasupathy has done. I appreciate and encourage this move because I am part of his extended family. It was due to the investment made by Mr Pasupathy's cousin Mrs. Malini Rasanayagam that I got to know the Tigers in their own environment - through a UNDP project. Mrs. Rasanayagam is the daughter of Mr. Sri Khantha who was actively involved in the independence movement. Their wisdom will support the likes of Mr. Pasupathy - as it has supported me in many angles of my work. When I go to court, I often think of Mr. Shiva Pasupathy - so I would not feel alien in that environment. THIS is why International players are required by BOTH sides. Otherwise we would sell out to Western countries who are largely cash investors.
They do not seek our goodwill or to feel one with us.
You say Thamilchelvam did miss an opportunity in Oslo. I think it is largely because he didn't know anything better.
AGREE
You say In my view, the price of not taking this opportunity will be very high.
What have YOU done to prevent this loss that has sent the Tigers back to their own quarters?
Blessings
Thank you deeply
love
gaja
Edited By - Gaja - 21 Jun 2006 00:05:47 GMT |
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21 Jun 2006 00:02:37 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gaja
Please, please, please don't say that this is anactive version of Gandhi's civil disobedience. I am sure you are intelligent enough to differentiate between sacrificial Gandhi and people like VP and TC.
Yes, there were upcoming Gandhi's (eg Neelam Tiruchelvam)but someone decided to get rid of him. |
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21 Jun 2006 00:06:39 GMT Report for Abuse
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what is the definition of supporting LTTE?
is it donating money to buy arms for LTTE
is it writing pro-LTTE articles like on many websites
is it protesting for LTTE in other countries
is it simply arguing in favour of LTTE in arguments and debates but not doing the above |
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21 Jun 2006 00:07:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Cobra is making a good point. You should not compare Gandhi's struggle with LTTE.
Cobra, has even given some names of people who could have come closer to Ghandhi. They were 'removed'. |
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Gaja
Norway is unlikely to support LTTE in favour of EU or the US. I mean Norway not Erik S. So marginalising monitors from EU countries is likely to be negative. I think this would be a strategic blunder just like TC's posturing in Oslo. |
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