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9 Jun 2006 19:19:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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Tamilcanuck
Last time I didn?t reply because you know I was ignoring you. Not this time mate.
Isreal is a country who has captured Palestenain land. Just like the GOSL has invaded Jaffna/trinco/batti.
Isreal does colonisation so does GOSL
Don?t be ridiculous. Every inch of SL is sovereign territory of GOSL. So GOSL has every right to move its forces to any part of the country the way it deems fit. You equate this to occupation of Palestine by alien European Zionist Jews!! Have you heard of chalk and cheese?
Man, how does it become colonization when GOSL settles people in its sovereign territory?
Isreal like to deal with many groups so as to not give anything to anyone Hamas, al-aqsa bridage, Islamic Jihad Hezbollah, PLO so does the GOSl with its paramilitaries. divide and conquer
Israel likes to deal with many groups? You know how? By massive bombardments of their offices, camps, training facilities and by systematic hunting and assassination. Their hunting knows no borders. Having forced the Jordanians to expel the Palestinians to Lebanon, in 1982, the Israelis invaded Lebanon and forced the Pals out of Lebanon into Tunisia. Later, they sent their assassins to hunt Pals in Tunisia. Just like LTTE murdering Rajiv.
What are the Israelis doing even now? Hunting, bombing and killing leading members of the various groups. LTTE does this to their opponents right?
Is this what GOSL is doing? Again chalk and cheese man
Israel hasnt kept any agreements all the way from resolution 242 onwards. GOSl has signed agreements like there was no tomorrow but doesnt beleive in implementing them.
Man, don?t you know Res. 242 is NOT agreement? Israel?s history is one of defying the UN and international laws. There is no such thing with GOSL.
Israel has denied UN Human Rights Commission access to Occupied territories since HRC creation in 1967. Parallel here is LTTE denying access to SLMM to visit Iranamadu to verify illegally built air strip/s.
Israel?s rejection of UN resolutions is similar to LTTE rejecting SLMM ruling on the Kurangupanchan camp and refusing to pull back.
Iseal demolishes the house of suicide bombers leaving their family on the street. GOSL goes after civilians.
If GOSL demolished house of suicide bombers, you would have had a point. If you are referring to the reprisal attacks after the recent suicide attack at Army Hq., man you are way off the mark
Hamas uses suicide bombings, LTTE was a guerilla group once and is a conventional fighting force now.
Whats your point?
Hamas has a lot of social programs (health care, schools) , so does the LTTE. Hamas is fighting to free their land, so does the LTTE
Yes, Hamas, along with the entire Palestinian people are fighting to free their land from Occupiers which is a well accepted fact universally. What is accepted universally is that LTTE is a terrorist outfit trying to divide Sri Lanka which is internationally UNACCEPTABLE.
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9 Jun 2006 19:27:50 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kamani,
When one call for talks the other rejects
Yes!When the leader of govt peace scretariat called for talks, the LTTE peace secretariat leader was prepared to talk to the govt peace secretariat. But the govt peace secretariat refused to talk to the LTTE peace secretariat.Now who refused to talk to to whome. It is the govt refused to talk to the LTTE. Not vice versa, as you mentioned.Please do not mislead people. |
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9 Jun 2006 19:38:30 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kamani,
All the tamils are not LTTE
Of course! all the tamils are not LTTE,but 95% are. |
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9 Jun 2006 19:43:50 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kamani,
LTTE have caused painsuffering for decades..
But the SL govt has caused pain and suffering for more than half a centuary and continues to do so. |
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9 Jun 2006 19:49:21 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kamani,
As a country I know the government is obliged to protect every citizen
Except the tamils! |
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9 Jun 2006 20:23:09 GMT Report for Abuse
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Forest,
the IC...should tell the LTTE in no uncertain terms,to stick to the CFA and to go for a negotiated settlement in the lines of a federal/devoluton of power
It is on the initiative of the LTTE there is a CFA. If the LTTE did not declare unilateral ceasefire, not once, but twice , there wil not be a CFA.Further,the Geneva talks was held for the sole purpose of strengthenig and fully implementing the CFA,for which LTTE gave its full cooperation.But the Govt not only failed to implement the agreement reached at the Geneva talks but also sabotaged it and violated it by encouraging the paramilitries to mount attacks on the LTTE and tamil civilians.
As for devolution of power, how can the tamils expect the govt which even refused to discus the ISGA to come out with a viable devolution pacage. |
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10 Jun 2006 03:48:58 GMT Report for Abuse
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Abdulsalaam,
My reference is to the period beginning mid 1980s
Killings and terrorisms that took place before 1980s are relevant as there was only one party to all those horrors. They are the very people carry on the same horrific crimes but conveniently shift them on to other outfit which challenges their monopoly.
Both parties strengthened their defences, don?t you remember GoSL buying war ships from India and US? Don?t you remember GoSL signing Defence Agreement with China and negotiated another with India but thanks to Vaigo?s timely intervention that blocked it. The problem with those support the SLA is they have selected memories and blames.
Disarming para-military within 30 days of signing the CFA was duly completed by withdrawing arms from the EPDP
LTTE also wants to disarm EPDP and PLOTE as well.EPDP is still carrying arms and killing Tamils in Jaffna and Vavunia. I myself saw EPDP cadres carrying guns in front of the police stations and army (EPDP) camps. You must believe the civilians when they say these things they have witnessed. Is there any provision in the CFA that permits post-CFA groups to carry arms? The spirit of the CFA allows only SLA and SLN to carry arms in the Govt controlled areas. Otherwise EPDP can form another paramilitary group, say, Douglas Group, and and claim it was formed after 30 days of CFA and carry arms.
LTTE brazenly violated this clause umpteen number of times by killing dozens of SLA LRP soldiers and intelligence operatives
I am against killing ordinary SLA soldiers, but, those members of Deep Penetration Unit including EPDP and army are different because not only they carried out killing of civilians and LTTE cadres by clandestine methods while there was a CeaseFire of hostilities during 2000 and 2001 but also GoSl and the SLA denied its existence until the police raid and exposed it. So they did not exist as far as the Govt was concerned.
Palestinians have been exposed to for almost 60 long years on a daily basis,
Yes, Palestinian?s problem was more horrific and more barbaric. But Tamils and until 1985, Muslims too, are discriminated and suppressed for last 50 years. You cannot see it because you belong to the oppressor and defender of discrimination. You may be untouched.
Sri Lanka buys arms from Israel, US and Pakistan. US is characteristic of helping oppressors, you can see the Middle East but not SL. All these countries oppressed the weak. Pakistan bombed the former East Pakistan and SL gave refueling facilities to enable Pakistan to kill their fellow countrymen and rape women. SL does the same and could not see anything wrong. Now US has said that it will give arms aid to SL to finish off Tamils. Can you see the pattern of all the aggressors getting together to destroy the suffering Palestinians and Tamils?
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10 Jun 2006 07:46:16 GMT Report for Abuse
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MaKaso:
It is not the LTTE top brass that have to be targetted as per you 09/June statement........
It should be Anton Bala & tongue in cheek erik Solheim who skorted the ltte for his personal gains & recognition in the International arena.
Of course, Bala only wanted free drinks & that he achieved.
Rrik the loooooser for skorting for that much friendship and strategy reports provided by Bala. |
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10 Jun 2006 11:46:26 GMT Report for Abuse
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Sintamus
What matters today is the attitude and conduct of the parties who are expected to restore peace in SL and these parties came into contention in the mid 1980s. There is little point in harping on what happened before when a lot of water has flowed under the bridge.
As for disarming the paras, LTTE's complaint is NOT about EPDP but about Karuna. If the disarming was not completed within 30 days as stipulated, did LTTE complain at any time after that? If it didn't complain, that is acknowledgement by the LTTE that disarming has been completed. To invoke CFA provision years later whether against Karuna or EPDP displays insincerity and ulterior motives. If the LTTE was serious, they could have agreed to the GOSL request to discuss amendment to the CFA and brought this matter at the discussion. LTTE's arrogance and intransigence put paid to that.
You are against killing SLA soldiers but killing DPU and intelligence operatives is ok only because they killed LTTE cadres and the GOSL denied the existence of DPU. It is difficult to understand the logic as DPU and intelligence operatives are part of SLA and killing them is violation of CFA.
The Palestinian tragedy is in a totally different league from the Tamil problem not only in regard to the nature but also in relation to the military strengths of the opposing forces which has put the Palestinians at the mercy of the Israelis who bombard and terrorise the Palestinians at will. The Palestinians have only guns and rifles to face the most advanced planes, rockets, missiles and not to mention banned weapons like napalm and chemical and biological weapons. It has to be said however that the LTTE thinks and acts like the Israelis. |
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10 Jun 2006 11:58:13 GMT Report for Abuse
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Vinivida,
All Palestinians were united and their political leadership was stronger than the military wings they had
This statement is suffice to conclude that you know few words such as ?mad dogs? and nothing about politics, national and international.
Didn?t you know that Palestinian leadership(PLO) was humiliated by Israel and US that the military wing Hamas swept the elections defeating PLO. Also the recent fighting between Hamas and Fatah clearly shows that Palestinians too are divided and fighting among themselves. You have to get some tuitions on politics from Abdulsalaam.
where's the proof that LTTE has Tamils support?
One has to look at the results of the General and LG elections. LTTE proxy TNA won 22 of the 23 sets in Northeast in GE and 100% of the seats in some regions in the LGE. You may not like these results for obvious reasons but IC and the GoSL treat LTTE as the sole representatives, hence they have or at least pretend to have negotiations with LTTE to satisfy the IC. Tamils diaspora was chased away by rioting thugs and SL army and navy and therefore they will go at tortoise speed and beat the dishonest and unjust GoSL even if it?s seen to be racing like a hare.
One information: All the freedom fighters in the world were branded as terrorists except Irish Republican Army (IRA) because US leadership of both parties is the descendents of Irish migrants.
All the other reasons listed by you are for the consumption of diehard extremists of the South and hence no reply is needed from Tamils.
Edited By - Sintamus - 11 Jun 2006 02:54:26 GMT |
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