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Constitutional solution to North-East conflict
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aj07
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  2 Jun 2006 11:00:45 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Naleen,

You are right. I think this is why i feel the co-chairs are saying SRI LANKANS have to make peace. India has said precisely what you said. They tried forcing both parties and it failed.

In spite of that I find it was a good attempt. It would have been successful if India continued to put the same pressure on both parties. It failed only because India gave up in the middle after they were too tired with Premadasa and Prabha.


Yes again i agree with you. But how long do you want some foreign nation to try if both parties are hell bent in destroying it. No different to now.

Unless the people pressure both GOSL and LTTE why should the IC or India care. I personaly feel both India and IC have tried more than they could do get both these sides to talk and it has failed cos they were never supported by the people of SL.
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  2 Jun 2006 11:05:14 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Tigeress19.

Any legal document should state under which law the contract is signed. Well i am not a lawyer but in this case this is a moral, ethical and good willing document. Nothing more than that.

OK you tell me in which court can SL govt go and challenge LTTE violations ? In which court can LTTE challenge it.

Its a binding document in good faith. Yes ofcourse both parties know how much they would lose in reputation. You cannot take this document to hague or geneva.

May be i dont understand what your saying and could be wrong. Would like to learn from someone who knows about this subject.
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  2 Jun 2006 11:09:28 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Naleen

I agree

CFA was not something carved in stone. It was only an understanding between two parties. It was necessary only to start the process. There should have been more agreements developments on the way.

So instead of fighting for clauses in an already obsolete CFA, both parties should talk with each other and agree for a more workable document for the interim period.


YES this is what I have been saying ALL the time since i joined!!. Err... bloody hell it took this long to get here.

The next document should include more political, economical, human rights etc. Most importantly minor constitutional changes too. Like the ones i outlined earlier to pave way for a final solution.

CEASEFIRE to INTERIM to FINAL solution.
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  2 Jun 2006 11:18:55 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Why we had to travel on the first gear for so long was because both parties were not too helpful in the attempts to change to higher gears. BOTH GOSL and LTTE should be responsible for that.


AND now they are happily gone to neutral and heading towards the reverse gear with every day skirmishes. While the people are all fast asleep.
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  2 Jun 2006 11:39:41 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Naleen

This idea should be FORCED on them, and like a pet dog who initially objects to an injection, they will later accept it. (I know it happened in so many other countries. So it will happen here.)


Now your threading on dangerous grounds. I see your point. This is why i was saying PEACE is not possible in SL.

But I guess its no different to telling the LTTE that separate state is not on and FORCING them to accept something less too.

This is where Gaja is right you cannot force it on people.

Thats why I am saying PEACE is not possible in SL cos the changes we are asking people to make on both side of the spectrum is extremely large!!.

We are asking majority of tamils to think this time its GOING TO be different. Well the chances of that happening is slim. So thats why people like tamilcanuk, aeiou are right in saying this aint going to happen jim.

The difference with the solution they have in mind is that even if you get separate state its NOT PEACE. Just like fighting for unitary state is also NOT PEACE. In both options even after you defeat the enemy you still got to keep fighting with new enemies and new issues.

Does that mean our only option is to accept something FORCED on us ?. Then we would have accepted the indo-lanka accord. Even now i believe that was the best solution considering the losses that were suffered by both communities. The LTTE lost only less than 2000. Today they have lost 18,000 and administer a land that is completely devastated. You could have still done that with legitimate powers and build something up spectacular with so much international support. Now they are trying to build a separate state in isolation when there is huge globalisation around the world where competitive forces are killing the survival of small nations.

For the South well the lost opportunities are far more significant than the North East.

Sorry nalin i really dont see any better future for sri lankans other than war and misery for both. Just a fact and reality. We are better off looking at how well we can administer refugee camps, disabled people via war etc. That is the future for tamils and singhalese. I am not saying i like the options out there but one has to be a realistic too not ignoring optimism.
Edited By - aj07 - 2 Jun 2006 11:41:33 GMT
tigeress19
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  2 Jun 2006 11:39:44 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Ajo7 and naleen

where can you take this document to start lawsuit?


you can file a case against the government in Geneva, the CFA is an agreement between the two parties. this is not just a CF or a verbal agreement.

the gosl should read it before it signs a document. the document violates the constitution or not is not the problem of ltte.

there wont be any punishment but the reputation will be damaged very badly.
Edited By - tigeress19 - 2 Jun 2006 11:45:58 GMT
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  2 Jun 2006 11:44:40 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Naleen and ajo7

i agree the CFA is signed to create a ,environment to archive peace.
but it recognizes the ltte as an equal partner to the gosl ,at the same time the borders are clearly divided into gosl and ltte controlled areas.

so do you think the ltte will walk away from the signed agreement because it violates the constitution?
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