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Constitutional solution to North-East conflict
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AnuD
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 1 Jun 2006 23:44:38 GMT Report for Abuse
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Aj07:
I don't know how honest you are. Tamils enjoyed far better than us. But, they never ackonwledge it. When they began to lose it they went to violence. But, I don't think they had to go this far and lie this much. Tamils showed their ugliest side as much as they can.
I also think sri Lanka need some kind of decentralization. But, it should be good for the whole country and not only for tamils.
Tamils have to be considerate. Right now they are very greedy and selfish. |
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 1 Jun 2006 23:48:59 GMT Report for Abuse
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Aj07,
You ask So Gaja, please tell me where it says there is no tamil included. It says a proposal will be submitted to the LTTE. How did you come to that conclusion and please explain your logic.
When you decide and then hand over your decision - you are not involving. The statement that it would be PRESENTED to the LTTE means that they are not included in the management of the activity and more importantly in the decision making. It's not WORKING together but telling the other what one is ready to do or not do.
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1 Jun 2006 23:53:46 GMT Report for Abuse
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Anud,
I havent finished writting the previous one before you replied but anyway here is my reply to your current one.
I don't know how honest you are. Tamils enjoyed far better than us. But, they never ackonwledge it. When they began to lose it they went to violence. But, I don't think they had to go this far and lie this much. Tamils showed their ugliest side as much as they can.
I have said this before and it still holds true. When a country decides to DIVIDE a cake that is not enough then both sides will feel one cheated the other. The easy way out is to DIVIDE not look at ways to ENLARGE the pie cos the later needs more creatvity, imagination and vision.
You are talking from a singhala point-of-view and i am not saying your wrong or right. But the tamils too feel the same way as you do with the restriction on university places, singhala only act etc etc.
I also think sri Lanka need some kind of decentralization. But, it should be good for the whole country and not only for tamils.
ABSOLUTELY i never said NO to this. Infact the most potential of the country can be realised from the central province due to decentralisation. Not from North & East. This is something the tamils have failed to sell cos in both sides we got politicians who are bloody lawyers. All they can do is argue. They are not negotiators. Lawyers are the worst negotiators.
Tamils have to be considerate. Right now they are very greedy and selfish.
Again this is your perspective as a singhalese. Like i said before when the cake is small. When you dont have enough to fill your stomach. You will always look at the other person and say he has more. Tamils do the same thing too.
The only way we can resolve this is if WE singhalese and tamils join together and say. Damn it we BOTH dont have enough how do we get more together. We are both starving and looking at each other's empty plates saying one has got one fly the other has got two flies. |
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 1 Jun 2006 23:54:43 GMT Report for Abuse
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Aj07:
Singhalese perspective of being sri lankan and tamil perspective of being sri lankan are different.
I would like to suggest that you use 'Apparent majority of Singhalese'. Truth is the majority of Sinhalese say 'YES' to whatever solution MR may offer one day and they are ready for a federal solution without any hesitation. Out of the rest, minority is against a power devolution at a federal level, (they agree to a power devolution within a unitary framework, because it's that they can think of now, otherwise they would prefer a Sinhalese Buddhist state while putting other citizens in a second class level). Others outnumber this group, but they don't express themselves much now (like myself) as it's definite that there will be a federal solution soon. Anyway it's going to happen soon, why do we need to bother about it. (Most of us were very active in an anti-war campaign since late 80s.) However, we are waiting for that day to celebrate!!
Just keep in mind there were a number of Sinhalese who were fighting against SLArmy alongwith PLOTE and EPRLF. One such person is 'Uduwarage Henry Perera', who was killed by LTTE. I personally know of few such people.
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1 Jun 2006 23:58:39 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gaja
When you decide and then hand over your decision - you are not involving. The statement that it would be PRESENTED to the LTTE means that they are not included in the management of the activity and more importantly in the decision making. It's not WORKING together but telling the other what one is ready to do or not do.
Please be sensible. When its presented to them its for negotiation. Please dont build a mountain over a mould hill. Ofcourse the engagement takes place from them. He never said its final. What they are trying to do is to get all the southern parties to come to a consensus so that its not another finger pointing exercise.
LTTE has very correctly said so many times that without southern parties coming together its no point having a peace process and negotiating cos it gets knocked out in parliament.
Its a step by step approach. Its easy to criticise everything but atleast give some credit he has taken the bold step to move ahead. If nothing comes out of it thats a different step. Atleast he is trying to move it ahead inspite of the red devils dancing for their own goal.
Peace can be achieved only one step at a time. Not in a day. |
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2 Jun 2006 00:04:46 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dayapala,
I hope what you say is true. But i am yet confused as to why MR came to power promising a unitary constitution. If you feel majority of the singhalese have accepted a federal solution as a fait compli then they would have not voted for him.
This is where singhalese like you and tamils like me should NOT accept the battle for peace is over. By no means is it over. By no means can we say certain solutions are in place. They are never till we see it and realise it.
Do you see the LTTE or JVP, JHU give up their goals ? Especially even when they are isolated and are a minority they fight tooth and nail. One has to admire their courage and self belief. This is what i have been saying about the moderate singhalese and tamils. We dont have a united front to fight them. Even when the IC came both moderates left the battle to them and went to sleep.
I was hoping the peace process would change the dynamics of sri lanka. Where by a singhalese and tamil will join together and start a party ousting UNP, PA, JVP and TNA as representatives of the country. |
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2 Jun 2006 00:06:33 GMT Report for Abuse
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Aj07,
What they are trying to do is to get all the southern parties to come to a consensus so that its not another finger pointing exercise.
The finger pointing is already happening - in that Tamils are being informed / told of the 'package'. Tamils seek 'ownership' for which they have to develop the system from zero base or carry on with faith what someone else has developed - sometimes making minor changes to what has been received. It's the difference between manufacturing and trading. I am saying manufacture and the president is saying trade.
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 2 Jun 2006 00:13:17 GMT Report for Abuse
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AnuD,
Is hitman your buddy? Just like you a racist I guess. I hope you will stop or try to reduce using filthy words on other forum members. The words you use only show the way you are broughtup and the way you live...
May god give you some enlightment to see good things in life. |
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Saman34
Constitutional solution to North-East conflict, I think praba is moving ship load of arms using under water divers.
Now whatever the solution, don't put your guard down.
Otherwise, Kano, Kano, Menna Naya Panno..Kottie Kanawo ...Kagahapiyawu.
So, now you understand whoever or whatever bans LTTE, they will find a way to come around it..
Sad thing is GOSL will never understand this. |
dayapala
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2 Jun 2006 00:17:11 GMT Report for Abuse
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Aj07:
It's like this. Majority of Sinhalese (let's say 60%)would agree with whatever solution MR would put forward. 'Majority of the rest of Sinhalese (let's say 25%)' are clearly for a federal solution. Balance (15% - i know this is very much smaller than 15%) that comprises JVP and JHU are the once you could see as Sinhalese now. (as they are doing their last battle). However, how MR handles these two groups is appropriate for the outcome of the process.
I agree with you that people like you and me have a duty on us. Had there been a powerful group of moderates would have made the process smoother. But still there are some small groups of such people in almost all the countries and they are a little organized. However, determining factor towards a federal solution at this moment is the pressure from the IC.
Edited By - dayapala - 2 Jun 2006 00:18:50 GMT |
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