|
|
Constitutional solution to North-East conflict
Full News Article
aj07
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 753
Member Profile
|
 2 Jun 2006 13:28:06 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Tigeress19
why on earth , the ltte proposed the ISGA in 2003? the gosl agrees to the isga or not is not the point but the ltte emphasized it's willingness to end the conflict by dialog.
the gosl must take full responsibility for all these mess not the ltte forest.
I agree with you on this. This is one of the reason for the increase in LTTE support across the world. So these bans the GOSL is doing everywher is not only going to have little effect infact its going to increase support.
BUT even if the GOSL doesnt realise it the IC knows it. Thats why the IC co-chair pressure is increasing. I also personaly feel the LTTE was much more genuine this time cos they had very high expectations that IC would pressure the GOSL on SIGNED agreements. But when that didnt happen it was a slippery road down hill. BUT the main benefit the LTTE obtained was those who used to criticise LTTE in the tamil community too realised that they gave their best shot at it. I personaly feel the singhalese lost a golden opportunity this time.
Just that the alternative they are fighting for is still going to be worse off. Also i personaly think they lack diplomacy skills to deal with IC. Some of the letters thamilchelvan wrote to SLMM was a very good example which precipitated the crisis. Chandi thanam engoloda katalam. You cant give chandi talk to the world too. This i feel is due to the lack of experience in dealing with IC. Everyone makes mistake lets hope they learnt it this time.
if the gosl is genuine , why bother with ltte? go ahead with your IC approved solution and implement it with the help of some tamils who are in your pocket.(doughy, sangaree, karuna and so on)
why wait?
Yes i agree with this too. But GOSL politicians are just a bunch of corrupt fools. Which is why i believe there wont be peace!!.
The LTTE is more than convinced and i feel this time even the hardcore moderate tamils feel a golden opportunity was lost. The names you mention above are not significant in the tamil community to have any influence. At the end of the day its the common man. Today this peace process has polarised us unless the GOSL comes with something very fast.
But if they go without the LTTE then LTTE will crumble faster especially if they stand in the way too. I know why your saying this cos you know 101% the south wont do it.
Like i said before much as i want peace this is not possible for SL (for both tamils and singhalese)
Again i agree this |
aj07
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 753
Member Profile
|
2 Jun 2006 13:31:11 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Tamilcanuk,
I am also waiting to see the separate state you said you'll IMPLEMENT from 1972. Before you go to space can you please do that ?
LTTE's promise is not worth the blood that was spilt. You save a tree we will save a life. In canada they will have to save a lot of trees anyway especially to hide from the polar bears.
Edited By - aj07 - 2 Jun 2006 13:33:13 GMT |
Thambi
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9728
Member Profile
|
 2 Jun 2006 14:17:22 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Tamil around the world UNITING against UNITARY STAE STRUCTURE , but MR is using old technique of dragging and wasting time procedure well known by all communities including IC and others .MR and his sinhala chauvinists misguiding him to the destruction of the country , the active political mind is the evident that no solution for Tamils if so then political suicide .very soon GOSL going face the real heat from the EU and the IC as well as from uncle SAM .
NO more tolerance going to be practiced by the IC or EU for GOSL delaying tactics on APC, because the Tamils around the world in well formed to unmask the GOSL.Entire world for the first time in one voice 'Tamils grievances should be addressed immediately'
The outcome of APC would be the same ends like PTOMS and ISGA
Edited By - Thambi - 2 Jun 2006 14:18:54 GMT |
forest
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1305
Member Profile
|
 2 Jun 2006 14:21:11 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Tigress 19, tamilchanuck etc.
I give up! About implementation, I am asking you again, who walked out of the peace talks the last govt had in Oslo, 2003? Why was the federal system proposed not agreed to by the LTTE then? What about the peace talks earlier in 1996? Why was the devolution proposals not agreed to by the LTTE then? o.k. then do it your way! Even the Indo-Lanka accord is redundant! Do whatever you want and go round and round and round in circles! You will simply end up getting dizzy! |
Thambi
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9728
Member Profile
|
2 Jun 2006 14:43:10 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Why NE tamils cant live under unitary system? KamalP
Effected people should asked for it, most of them prefer to have a separate state but the Compromise by both parties would be FEDERAL with defense and the finance mystery under the federal control.
Even the IC and US not a word about UNITARY but they repeated many times including INDIA, UNITED country.
Edited By - Thambi - 2 Jun 2006 14:43:43 GMT |
tamilcanuck
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 12854
Member Profile
|
2 Jun 2006 14:54:14 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Forest wrote,
! Do whatever you want and go round and round and round in circles! You will simply end up getting dizzy!
when i'm dizzy and hit the bottom i'll look back and reach out. I hope you'll provide a helping hand and lift me up. counting on it!!
implement the CFA. then we will talk.
oh BTW any changes in the constituion doesnt need the approval of the tigers.
any devolution package (yeah yet another APC called, what for ) doesnt need the tigers approval.
come up with something concrete, talk and talk, each a consensus in the south agree on something and deliver it to the tigers. once delivered dont want the supreme court or ano one else protesting.
and tamils dont have time (TDHT). if this is not donw on atimely manner LTTE will move. we go down youre coming down with us! it looks rather selfish but there is no choice! |
ajan
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4374
Member Profile
|
2 Jun 2006 15:04:45 GMT Report for Abuse
|
It is nothing but lip service , just to fool westerners.
lets see if they are fool to trust mahinda. |
ajan
Senior Member
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 4374
Member Profile
|
2 Jun 2006 15:07:53 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Let it not be forgotten that Mahinda never associated himself with any major effort to resolve the national question through federalism under Chandrika Kumaratunga. The excuse is that Kumaratunga ignored him. True! But then this was what Rajapakse wanted. Had Rajapakse really wanted to associate with those efforts I am sure he could have bulldozed his way in. After all when he wanted to be Premier he cut Lakshman Kadirgamar?s throat neatly. When he wanted Presidential nomination he circumvented the Bandaranaikes , did he not?
What has been apparent in the past is Mahinda?s consistency in identifying himself with the forces of Sinhala racism opposing even meagre concessions to the Tamils. There he was at the Buddhist demonstration opposing the Devolution bill in 2000. There he was visiting the fasting Omalpe Sobhitha at Dalada Maligawa. Who was the man behind the JVP action against the P- TOMS.?
Compounding matters further is the treatment meted out to Mahinda in Jaffna in the aftermath of the Tsunami.by tiger instigated mobs. Spoiled rice and excreta pots were hurled at him. Just as JR Jayewardene never forgot the slippers thrown at him in Jaffna Rajapakse also would not forget this insult. Of course Rajapakse can say he has no grudges against Tamils and prove it by saying ?My Best friend is a Tamil. Its Douglas Devananda?.
Frivolity apart Rajapakse has very correctly gauged the LTTE to be the primary and effective obstacle to his political aims. He has devised a policy therefore of containing and undermining the LTTE in the short run . In the long run he hopes to launch an all out war to annihilate the tigers. Another important consideration is the IC. The active support of the IC is required to bankroll the economy while war is conducted.These are the defining parameters of Mahinda Rajapakse?s current policy towards the resolution of the National question.
Satisfying or hoodwinking the IC is of crucial importance. The idea is to pay lip- service to certain words , phrases and statements that are music to the IC?s ear. Its like chanting Manthras in a Pooja. The current key words as far as the IC is concerned is peace, talks and peace process. Other Manthras of importance are negotiated settlement, democracy, pluralism, human rights, devolution, minority rights, inclusivity etc.
The important thing to remember is that only paying lip service is required. Keep mumbling the jargon and go through the motions of peace process participation. In order to impress the IC Rajapakse would always appear to be reasonable and flexible. Take the Geneva talks for instance. Mahinda instructs his team to accept the accord. ?Porunthuvelaa Enda. Passa Balamu? (Promise and Come. Lets see later).
So the Geneva agreement is signed. But within 24 hours all sorts of new interpretations are given. A fresh stance is articulated. This negates the essence of what was agreed upon in Geneva. |
eskimo06
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2050
Member Profile
|
 2 Jun 2006 15:17:26 GMT Report for Abuse
|
| Lets say we devlove power to western, south, North and east provinces and domocratically elect a party comes into the power. Is LTTE going to renounce violence ? |
nale
Senior Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 5401
Member Profile
|
2 Jun 2006 15:18:18 GMT Report for Abuse
|
Naleen,
As far as law is concerned,the so called CFA is not different from a paper you tear from an exercise boook.
Yes! Tearing the agreements, pacts are the things the sinhalese can do very well and can be proud of and boast. That is why the island is the present state-a hunting ground for all and sundries.When are you all going to learn to respect,honour and implement the agreements reached.Until then your country will be the sick man of the east. |
|
Search All News and Discussions