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Constitutional solution to North-East conflict
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aj07
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  2 Jun 2006 12:48:05 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Sintamus,

YES they are just like the fight for separation and fight for unitary state was.

Tamils and singhalese are two failed races. I know no one will like me writting this. But the fact is peace cannot be negotiated btw these two races. They only know to fight and that is what they are good at.

I personaly feel they should continue to do that. Does that answer your question ?
tigeress19
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  2 Jun 2006 12:50:45 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Ajo7

i will agree with you that
the tamils are a failed race
if the sinhalses know the meaning of democracy!!
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  2 Jun 2006 12:51:52 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Ajo7

if we wipe Tamils outta SRi Lanka,

then we will become a successful race :)

and necessary plans are getting implemented.

EU ban is one, much more to come ;)
forest
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  2 Jun 2006 12:52:35 GMT  Report for Abuse   
O.K. sinthamus, tigress 19 etc. you guys keep fighting and see the result! Both sides will end up suffering.

So there is a choice now. To negotiate with international mediation and adopt a federal system or devolution of power or a similar power sharing system. I am telling you guys, end this thing now! Don't let it go beyond this point.

I am telling you, there is no point discussing the finer points and details of what happened with what agreement or who violated what etc. It will go on and on and on.....ad infinitum!

At least, do it for your children.
aj07
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  2 Jun 2006 12:56:17 GMT  Report for Abuse   
So there is a choice now. To negotiate with international mediation and adopt a federal system or devolution of power or a similar power sharing system. I am telling you guys, end this thing now! Don't let it go beyond this point.

I am telling you, there is no point discussing the finer points and details of what happened with what agreement or who violated what etc. It will go on and on and on.....ad infinitum!

At least, do it for your children.


ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON. Now how many of us (you, me, naleen etc etc) do you think we need to get there ??. This is a mindset change!!.

tigeress19 and sithmus so what do you think the tamils should do too towards the singhalese ? I know what answer both of you will give no different to AEIOU would.
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  2 Jun 2006 12:58:51 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Forest

let me agree with you that the ltte violated the CFA more times than the gosl for the sake of saving time here.ok

forest, there were no violent for 2 years since 2002( cfa was signed in 2002)

it is the gosl who failed to implement the cfa.
1)high security zones must have been removed but the hsz is still there.

2)paras.
the gosl's stf attacks ltte along with paras.

obviously the ltte will attack back. all these violent are taking place in gosl controlled areas. ltte lost patient after gosl failed to implement the agreed.

ok,lets forget the cfa for a sec,
shouldn't the gosl atleast maintain the law and order in it's territory?
aj07
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  2 Jun 2006 13:04:28 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Tigeress19 ok everyone accepts BOTH violated and NO ONE cares who did more.

OK how do we move from here ??. What do you think both races should do or on behalf of both races what should the LTTE and GOSL do.

I say both of them instead of a CFA should draft a common apology document called the 'Lankan Reconcillation Document' where in which both parties apologise to all sri lankan, singhalese, tamils and muslims.

from ethnic cleansing, economic embargo, carpet bombing, suicide bombing etc etc. The list should outline that and both should sign that before talking about blooming devolution etc. Our future generations should know that we singhalese and tamils did this to each other. That in the future just like germany does not like to talk about hitler's era. our generations too should realise this was the dark ages of our history and they SHOULD NEVER EVER allow it to happen again.

Atleast on this both wont argue are we GOING to implement. They have both implemented it and can take credit for it too. They have both matched like for like in brutality. But it should be not saying LTTE did this and SL did this. But both sides did it on their people!!.
Edited By - aj07 - 2 Jun 2006 13:10:07 GMT
tigeress19
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  2 Jun 2006 13:10:17 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Forest

what ever the solution you try and propose with the help of IC, IT IS the gosl who suppose to implement the agreed solution. the gosl will not implement the agreed. you should know the history.

if the gosl is genuine , why bother with ltte? go ahead with your IC approved solution and implement it with the help of some tamils who are in your pocket.(doughy, sangaree, karuna and so on)

why wait?
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  2 Jun 2006 13:23:18 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Ajo7

you suggested
gosl and ltte apologizing to all communities


to start, gosl never apologized or not paid a cent to the victims of the 1983 massacre.

all they did was blamed the unp.

who is unp? aren't they sinhalases? if so , shouldn't they be held responsible for that matter?
lets forget that.

your suggestion will only work if we tamils are willing to live side by side with sinhalese under unitary system. the chance ,tamils agreeing to a unitary system like the one we have now is very very slim.

what i would suggest is ,
gosl and ltte SHOULD apologies for the CFA violation and work towards to implement the agreed CFA first.

then move on to amend if it is a flawed CFA. A flawed CFA is better than no CFA.without implementing the agreed , how can you (gosl)come to a conclusion that the CFA is a flawed.

ltte plan their strategies that the gosl will not give an inch to the tamils under the coat of democracy.
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  2 Jun 2006 13:27:05 GMT  Report for Abuse   
Miss See breeze,

stop talking nonsense. HSZ not vacated. IDPs still inplaces. its over (1560-60) days since the CFA. a violation is a violation. are you a gr 1 teacher or something. you keep repeating the same nonsence. its been pointed out signing agreements or putting forward ideas isnt enough. ITS THE LACK OF IMPLEMENTATION. whjats the deal with the paras.

My idea is we should put a man (tamil or sinhalese) in SPACE within the next week. No need to implement it. as long as i have said it thats enough.


Others,

even a legal document can be overturned in lanka. there is the supreme court (P-toms), the idiotic constitution, 2/3 majority and any other nonsense that the GOSl can come up with.

so the bottom line is any AGREEMENT signed with the GOSL isnt worth the PAPER its written on. waste of a branch. save a tree.
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