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US urges EU to ban LTTE
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Mucha-linda
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17 May 2006 02:18:12 GMT Report for Abuse
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I am quite doubtful about this statement by Donald Camp. After all he said this to SL media and not to EU. Secondly, whatever they say, the so called theoretician of LTTE still live well in UK with no problems whatsoever.
No matter what they preach about Human Rights, Pluralistic Societies and Secular States, the relationship we have with US (and with UK and India and etc) is not symetric. As such, they are entitled to forget what they said OR to say something contrary, and we are not.
The beauty of this system is, no matter how asymetric the relationship is, there will always be people (even in this forum) to argue otherwise.
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charles
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17 May 2006 03:31:45 GMT Report for Abuse
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This urging can be resulted by several needs of the US
(1) LTTE seems to be out of control of them, (OF THE EAGLES )
like BIN LADEN. So they may be trying to get them to the
track.
(2) By showing this kind of behavior they may be trying to
have early justification in involving in the matter more
closely.
(3) May be trying to create conditions to influence MR and the
government, to keep them in their line . |
aj07
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17 May 2006 03:54:11 GMT Report for Abuse
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Wow AJ07 and talk about tamil people's contradicitons and fickleness. One second its Int'l community will teach Sinhala and 'adhere to ceasefire' talk now its all about CFA is big trick for tamils because it is the int'l they signed themselves. If they hadn't signed then they would have been the losers
The issue is we keep talking only about the CFA (last 4 years). The country needs to move forward FROM the CFA. A better statement from the US would have been to tell the GOSL and LTTE to stop fighting over irrelevant issues and move to discuss about the CORE ISSUES (for example the Oslo accord)etc.
By giving partisan support either on the karuna factor or banning the LTTE doesnt help the progress towards peace. Both parties lack a vision, and more importantly the sincerity for peace.
The lack of understanding of the US on this issue itself is killing the peace process. They are creating more problems rather than reducing it. If they were really interested in furthering the peace process instead of calling the parties to come on foreign trips everywhere and give them a holiday would suggest get to the core issues asap. Pressure needs to be applied on both sides without giving either of them partisan publicity. If the IC doesnt do that then there is no peace process. No point strengthening either side with their extreme views.
Edited By - aj07 - 17 May 2006 04:46:05 GMT |
kuru
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17 May 2006 05:29:20 GMT Report for Abuse
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aj07 wrote
A better statement from the US would have been to tell the GOSL and LTTE to stop fighting over irrelevant issues and move to discuss about the CORE ISSUES (for example the Oslo accord)etc.
How can the US say that, since all the killing and provocations are done by the LTTE terrorists.
After signing the CFA , how many times they violated, the accord.?
They never showed any glimpse to the GOSL or to the outside world , that they are interested in finding a political solution.
They have only one agenda, that is a seperate state , and they are working on it to achieve that,that is all.
Specially their actions, after signing a ceasefire agreements, tells the fact , than , their words.
International community , specially the US are not fools to ,not to understand, this , reallity.
Therefor, i think , tamil people , should not be that foolosh to expect the US and the IC to pamper the LTTE terrorist and justify , all their terrorist activities and issue statements, which are favourable to them (LTTE -terrorsits)
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17 May 2006 06:59:38 GMT Report for Abuse
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We are not asking US to pamper the LTTE terrorist. At the same time we are not asking them to make any statements too. But if you decide to make lofty statements then you be fair on your approach.
LTTE kills civilians. while the GOSL doesnt even give aid to people affected via a tsunami (PTOMS). So I cant see the difference btw both terrorist. One deliberately kills people with bombs the other deliberately kills by starving.
Then on the side of the violence. Today both terrorist are killing civilians. The SL army like a bunch of hooligans are at it everyday to match the LTTE terrorist.
Anyway at the end of the day i agree with you IC or USA cannot do anything. It is clear even from this forum that the divide btw tamils and singhalese is so vast that there is no turning point. I never realised the divide was so wide either. I thought the peace process would have made people see things differently but it has not and no wonder the peace process is dead too.
So thank you for your post too. The singhalese here are blind to the GOSL crimes and the LTTE supporters are blind to the LTTE crimes. There are a few of us here who feel both are no better. But we are the extremist. So I am sorry all this time to say majority of singhalese and tamils wanted peace. That is not true. Majority of singhalese want unitary state and majority of tamils want separation as their FIRST OPTION cos the hatred is far too high to do any reconcilliation. |
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17 May 2006 07:39:24 GMT Report for Abuse
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A Good Morning to everyone ..
Just to disseminate some information that has come my way about a development with the SLAF..The SLAF has raised a tender through SiBAT in Israel for 5 additional units of the CoMPASS IV system ..
The CoMPASS IV system (Compact Multi-Purpose Advanced Stabilized System), developed and manufactured by Elbit Systems subsidiary Elop Electro-Optic Industries Ltd, supports day and night observation, area surveillance, and target acquisition and engagement (designation). The system comprises a 3rd generation forward-looking infrared sensor (FLIR) with microscan, and colour/BW TV camera, plus an EYESAFE laser rangefinder/designator, and night-vision goggle-compatible laser target illuminator. The system supports Picture in Picture functions.
The SLAF received 5 units in 2004 from SiBAT. These units have been fitted on the new Mi-24V HIND gunships
With the SLAF .. An example can be seen in the following link:
http://www.aero-image.com/SLAF-special/Photo_pages_heli/MI24V-3.htm
Plus .. I have been reading about the recent killings in the North of your country .. The recent murder of 13 civilians by the EPDP and rogue elements in the SLN is quite worrying .. I hope the perpetrators are caught and given the appropriate sentence ..
Take care everyone .. |
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17 May 2006 08:34:35 GMT Report for Abuse
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TheColonel,
a democracy that is willing to try to amend possible wrongs in the past then you'd have a better chance of survival
We are not sure sticking to Unitary State policy is an indication of amending past wrongs. If anything to go by, out of all the GoSLs this is the most extreme, as it embraces JVP/JHU on ethnic problem.
Your agenda is to finish off LTTE. We have no choice other than co-existing with Tamils. Govt. attempts to undermine LTTE is unrealistic as most Tamils and international community want the GoSl to have a civilised dialogue with it. Because of past mistakes of the South there is no choice other than swellowing your pride and sit down on the table with sincerity and compromise to devolve power to the minorities. You cannot get away with past cheatings of 50tees, and 60s.
Please look around where you are, won't you attribute the major part of their success is due to devolution?
Both LTTE and paramilitaries kill Muslims and Tamil civilians. If in doubt listen to 3rd parties, they including SLMM say SLA/paramilitaries are responsible for extra-judicial killings of civilians. LTTE kills SLA/paras that is well publised everywhere.
Edited By - saleemtariq - 17 May 2006 11:30:57 GM |
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17 May 2006 09:14:15 GMT Report for Abuse
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Aj07
Muslims you will be next!!. BEWARE!! The United States terrorist will come after you once they finish the tamils.
You have got it all mixed up. US has been after the Muslims for years indirectly and directly. Supporting Israel to the hilt for more tahn 60 years is an example of indirect attack on Muslims. Encouraging Iraq to attack Iran in the 1980s and Kuwait in the 1990s is another example. Military interventions to drive the Iraqis out of Kuwait in the 1990s and in Afghanistan and Iraq in 2000 and 2003 are examples of direct intervention. Add the sanctions on Iraq which caused the deaths of more than 500,000 children alone. So, The Yankees have killed millions of Muslims and are controlling almost all the Muslim countries except Iran which they want to nuke.
They really have no reason to go after the Tamils and it is unlikely they will. If at all they decide to attack the LTTE, all it needs is a few hours bombing of the Wanni hide out of Prabha which will finish the terrorists off causing
very little casualties among civilians.
So aj07, you are way off the mark. |
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17 May 2006 09:24:58 GMT Report for Abuse
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TheColonel
Shut Saleem are you a tiger in wolf clothes by taking a jarab name
This Saleem is a Tamil hiding behind a Muslim name. He does not speak for the Muslims. See my posts in the thread 'We only took a break: SLMM'. This guy wants to create mischief. |
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Aj07
So what after all the bans in the plannet LTTE's collection decreased is it ??? NO infact it has increased many folds.
That means you must be really happy about the LTTE being banned as it actually helps the LTTE. So why are you huffing and puffing about the US calling for a ban by the EU. Man, you must joining the call for banning the LTTE everywhere because it is good for them. |
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