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Thank you Magha for your response.
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Bishops seek meeting with LTTE chief on Hoole
magha
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Gaja Lakshmi,
There is a difference between bearing the name 'Elephant' and the Elephant the animal with its own majesty. The only resemblance I could make as I said before, what you write and the elephant is, the bulk of the waste product of the Elephant.
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Magha,
You became God's instrument in identifying me with the elephant. In Tamil they say that the elephant is worth a thousand pieces of gold - dead or alive. Also, in Hinduism, the dung of sacred animals is burnt and the ash used as Holy Ash - to denote wisdom. Likewise even my waste which one day you will wear as Holy Ash of wisdom on your Sinhalese forehead.
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Magha, now to your post to me:
You say 'When you disregard facts and statistics, your ability to interpolate the needs of an institute is doubtful especially in the case of Jaffna University which runs under extremely difficult situations.'
FACTS and Statistics are needed where you feel divided / diverse. The least facts we use to succeed the greater the indicator that we are connected through our minds and hearts.
The question here is whether Jaffna University needs someone who feels or someone who publishes with little regard for feeling. Professor Hoole was considered to be of the latter category and hence the opposition to his appointment. Right now the people of Jaffna need those who can FEEL with them and do the needful. They do not have the strength to think consciously and logically or worse to publish their work at International level. If Professor Hoole is able to connect to their feelings by becoming humble - then he would be a good leader. I do not know whether he has the humility to become small enough to enter the minds of the people of Jaffna who SEEM to have less intellectual achievements than he. The inability to squeeze themselves to enter the minds of those below them is a common problem with Western leaders - especially those who do not have stong religious beliefs. Taking Professor Hoole's religion of Christianity - of Professor Hoole is able to follow in the path of Jesus Chirst who said 'Ask and it shall be given; Seek and you shall find; knock and it shall be opened to you' then Professor Hoole will succeed.
The question is whether Professor Hoole's doors are open to all citizens of the University of Jaffna - whether they were open BEFORE the offer was made by the President. It would help if Professor Hoole made public statements in this regard.
You say 'My first response in this forum to Prof. Hoole being appointed as the VC was that he is suitable but he should not accept it because of the political situation being a threat to his life.'
Magha, when I went to work in Vanni in 2003, that was said about me to - that my life was in danger and it could very well have been had I not FELT with the genuine workers amongst the Tigers. I did criticize the Tiger Administration right up to the top - just like I do at my workplaces and within my community and family. I do lose beneifts and status - which is mental death to that extent. Had I been killed - my work would have been elevated to a higher level and I would have come back to a better world. Later in 2005, when I went to the East with Tsunami work - I first felt apprehensive about living in a remote area with descendents of Veddhas. But I connected to the people through our religious beliefs and this was highly supported by my mate Julia Hall from USA - who gave me a picture of Sathya Sai Baba when they all departed - leaving me alone in that strange environment. But I went there again later last year - because when you serve you feel connected to them. If you don't it is a risk. By not going there on 15 March (which reminded me of the Ides of March syndrome)- Professor Hoole indicated that he did not FEEL connected to them. Hence for HIM it may not have been a safe environment. I went to prison which also was a risk to my life - given the environment in which I grew up and operated until then. But I took on the challege with courge for MY COUNTRY AUSTRALIA.
You say ' Although Jaffna university is funded by the GOSL ,it is only in the capacity as an educational institute for teaching purposes than a research oriented higher educational Institute.'
The the GOSL is being short-sighted. The people of Jaffna have suffered much and this is rich soil for research. The work could be expressed through many different languages. But the rich Truth is already there - waiting to be discovered. In fact, the work done by Professor Hoole in publishing - 'The Exile Returns' is an indicator of this. But the Jaffna people seek to collectively own it and do not want others to exploit them.
You say 'The importance of a renowned academician becoming a VC of Jaffna university should not be undermined by LTTE terrorism which had extended their tentacles to this higher educational Institute. LTTE had intimidated and assassinated the intellectuals affiliated to that institute and had subjugated the liberty a university should have in order to educate the youth. '
May be may be not. I have not heard any such thing through our internal network which is far more reliable than your external sources. Even if they were true - YOU as a Sinhalese have lost the right to say it - because of what YOUR Governments have done to damage our investments in Higher Education.
You say 'I am quite familiar with private funding for faculties for research purposes. Those grants we obtain to involve undergrads and post grads for research projects. No research nor funding. If an organization donates equipment to a university it is charitable work which has its limits since they can not be used for research projects since there are no funds available for research. Research can not be done without trained academic staff too. If you think that Jaffna university will receive private funding to introduce partly private education it is not going to happen too since the university admissions come under UGC. We do not have a system for private higher education except for few institutes like the Law college , CIMA and Open university.'
You left out my Alma Mater - The Institute of Chartered Accountants. Are you afraid of me claiming credit for Sri Lankan qualifications?
There are many ways to attract Private as well as Public funding. I have been highly successful in this regard. It's a complex skill which cannot be memorised and used. Genuine seekers will find me and those like me. The best researchers are those who are close to the ones who have had the experience. If you are thinking of the form that you are used to - then you would lead the University of Jaffna to failure.
You say 'What Jaffna university needs today is emancipation and rehabilitation from LTTE tyranny. Since Your expertise in resource management cannot expel the LTTE tyranny then it is useless for the future of Jaffna University. '
Magha, you are preoccupied with the mistakes made by the LTTE. Hence your mind is blocked to their achievements especially amongst their people. If you feel connected to at least your parallels in their circles - you would have a more genuine base for your expressions. I am not here to carry out your orders to expel or to recruit. I am here to make a difference to all genuine seekers of Higher Education. You consider my work to be left overs. This is why people like you and those whom you support must stay away from Jaffna. There is a saying in Tamil - that the donkey does not know the value of camphor flavor.
You say 'I as a Sri Lankan will work in solidarity with other Tamil intellectuals who want to destroy LTTE dictatorship and Terrorism and that will eventually bring fruits to Jaffna university.'
You have limited your goals to a narrow outcome. The fruits of your genuine work will benefit Jaffna. I do not know about the University - especially when Jaffna University becomes one of International standards. Terrorism is not an intellectual path and hence your work is not likely to directly benefit the University system.
You say 'As such I do not have to compete with you or any Tamil for any position of Jaffna university but will continue to resist Tamil Diaspora nurturing Terrorism for their own survival, hence my criticism against you will continue. When LTTE dictatorship is destroyed the Jaffna medical faculty will invite me as a guest, that is sufficient for me.'
AH! NOW THE TRUTH COMES OUT. YOU LACK THE CONFIDENCE TO BE BE VICE CHANCELLOR BUT YOU CRITICIZE AS IF YOU ARE THE CHANCELLOR. YOU HAVE THE CONFIDENCE TO BE A CASUAL VIP - GUEST. IF AND WHEN YOU FEEL OWNERSHIP - YOU WOULD NOT 'WAIT' FOR AN INVITATION. THAT MAGHA IS CALLED DEMOCRACY.
You say 'Finally since I am not an animal worshipper I do not find any thing scared about Elephant excrement too. I have a friend who did research on elephant dung to analyze their eating habits, microbes in their guts and etc but he too is a scientist who does not worship Elephants, cows, rats and other creatures so you may have to use them for your own self or give it to Tamil Diaspora in Australia.'
Tamils already know the value of Holy Ash from sacred animals. The elephant is worshipped my thousands of Sinhalese - including at Kathragama. So you stand alienated by these simple but powerful Sinhalese. I am informed that Professor Kumarvadivel - Professor Hoole's competitor for the position of VC - prays to Ganesh - Divine Elephant. May be this is how his prayers are getting answered.
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Magha,
One does not need to know about the Administrative structure of the UN and have experience in working it - to become the UN Secretary General. If the UN is not able to translate an applicant's International work based on the Common Values of the International Community - then the UN has failed. It is my understanding that prior to Kofi Annan - the successful candidates came from outside the UN.
As for my UNSW work being the basis - the answer is NO. I have worked at the National and International level here in Australia and hence my work at the UNSW has been raised to the higher level. The consciousness in which we work is more important than the position level and the institution's physical labels. Where an institution has earned a bad name as is the case with the Sri Lankan government - then that affiliation works against a cadidate with genuine recruiters.
Jesus is Universal. He was condemned by the government of His country. Lord Buddha must have discarded his government so his work would be pure of their sins.
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27 Mar 2006 01:28:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gaja:
'About you feeling sorry for the students - why? They seem happier than you.'
Because according to you, they don't have to be hurry to get their degrees unless they go out of the country for opportunities. So students could take their own time to complete the courses and administration does not need to worry.
This is an extraordinary resource management technique that I ever heard. Some one might think spending time to do some research to find such theories is wasting time. But it helps to understand the mindset of the people in our society. I can imagine the future of the students if someone who believes such theories would reach to a position to manage the resources of the students.
This is why I feel sorry for them. |
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27 Mar 2006 02:59:21 GMT Report for Abuse
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Thank you MaKaSo for your response.
The University, like a work of art must mean different values to different investors. The Common purpose is to find Truth for ourselves and propagate the Truth found by ourselves and others.
The form in which we do this varies. If you are focused on certifications from outsiders - yes, you would feel sorry for those citizens of a University who are also working primarily for those credits. Until we know the component of this category, we would be wasting our time and thinking that they are unhappy. How do you know YOU are not more unhappy than they?
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27 Mar 2006 04:38:14 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gaja,
It has been interesting to read your postings and indeed those reveal your personality and mentality. Your intention to apply for resource management consultant position in the Jaffna University triggered me to continue this discussion so far because I believe having reading your work here I know you better than the university students. Besides, I doubt whether the university students in Jaffa have the facility to access internet frequently like others who live in western to read daily writing of your.
You asked me, 'How do you know YOU are not more unhappy than they? '
No, I am SO UNHAPPY than students because I don't want to see someone like you tarnishing university system of SL.Period. |
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27 Mar 2006 04:53:45 GMT Report for Abuse
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MaKaSo,
You are a good example of the Sinhalese who cannot understand or appreciate Tamils like me.
In terms of Jaffna students knowing about me - they do not need this network to know about me. We have our own internal system which is far more reliable.
In terms of access, you might be surprised as to how advanced they are even with lack of electricity and equipment. The last time I was in Northern Sri Lanka - late last year - I got down the electronic version of the title deeds of our family Khali-Vairavar Temple in Thunaivi - through the internet - from my brother in Canada. There were frequent break-downs due to power failure - but we succeeded eventually. The failures brought our minds together. The title deed was need to donate a part of the temple land for a Common Purpose Community Building funded by NECORD.
As you can see, we share and support each other. We do not need your sympathy. Take it to people who are dependent on you.
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Gaja Lakshmi,
It appears to me that you go to such an extent of posting your e mail address book here to prove a cheap point. You have not shown any respect to the privacy of those people whose e mail addresses you have posted just to show only two postings of yours and mine and why not all?
Further more I do not want to speculate who uses ashes of excrement of animals to rub on their foreheads for religious believes of Jaffna university, which is their personal belief .However I do not think that Jaffna university had fallen in to such a low level of teaching their students to rub ashes of animal dung on their foreheads to achieve more power. If such a philosophy is promulgated at Jaffna university it will certainly loose it's credibility in the world as an institute of higher education. If it is the case then we need people of Prof. Hoole caliber to restore it?s image certainly.
This further proves in addition to your previous posting that MakaSo has timely pointed out and I too had condemned ,how you supported the action of closing down the Jaffna University , your incapability to be a value to this higher education institute.
I challenge you to mail the entire thread to your -email friends so they will find out about your unscientific approach to higher education.
By the way I thought ICASL is now called CIMA . It is my mistake. |
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27 Mar 2006 05:16:39 GMT Report for Abuse
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Tamilcanuck,
I am not the monster that you have pictured me being a Singhalese.
Thanks for the Ontario budget. I like the fact that it is in several languages including Tamil. Do not forget that I have been questioning every body why Tamil language official status has so far not been fully implemented? So my stance in respect to that should be very clear to you.
BTW, which animal dung you use to rub on your forehead to gain more power if you are a Hindu?
I watched last night with my wife, Aparna sen's Mr&Mrs iyer an Indian movie.
Fairly a good movie tackling the religion and ethnic diversity of India in a mature way. It shows that it is not the educated or the middle class who go on killing innocent people in ethnic and religious riots in India but the people belonging to the lowest strata, which is again the case in Sri Lanka too. The beauty of the ethnic, and religious diversity is lost the moment people try to isolate them selves territorially according to their ethnicity and religion which is true for Singhalese ,Tamils and Muslims.
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