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29 Mar 2006 23:52:46 GMT Report for Abuse
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Magha,
I am appalled by your low level thinking. Must be too much attachment to 'facts'.
What I wrote about the use of dung by Hindus is a true statement. Each one would interpret as per his/her investment in religious issues. The parallel of this in Christianity is the drinking of wine as if it were the Blood of Christ and eating the bread - as if it were the Body of Christ. You take it down to the literal / primary level - in your attempts to put the other person down - so you can win.
You say 'The fact of the matter is it is only cow dung being used and not other animals, not to speak about Human excrement. A Hindu suggesting one?s excrement to be used for religious purposes is unacceptable and it ridicules the Hindu religi'
There you go again with facts. Raise them to Truth - which means that when the waste of holy beings is burnt - they become spiritual symbols. When I said my waste - I was referring to the 'writing' in this forum which was considered dung by you and your mates. But you 'saw' that as my physical food waste and hence your reaction. If you had continued to use your own base without wavering - you would have read the right message. I did not do anything to change the base. YOU did because you are fearful of losing. So you are trying to make out that I have ridiculed Hindu religion. If I do that - then I ridicule myself and why would I do that? You are using your own low standards with me. Stick to the language of the discipline that you have most invested in. Since you have not invested much in the Spiritual path - religion is damaging your other investments.
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30 Mar 2006 01:11:51 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gaja Laksmi,
After making a mistake do not try to twist word from dung to waste products to now a cremated body. You made a mistake you insulted your own religion period. |
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30 Mar 2006 01:36:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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Anantha,
I do not know any body personally ,who had converted to Christianity after reading the bible. However the question is what religion they belonged to before, or did they have any religion. Some people get converted because of superstitious believes, thinking some miracle happened. There are many people who converts them selves to other religions because of opportunistic reasons. There is a current news topic about an Afghan converted to Christianity given a death sentence. I personally think the man is right converting him self to Christianity because Islam in this situation seems to be depriving his human rights. The problem is the religion had been absorbed in to the country's constitution. If in a another country let us say in India or Sri Lanka if a Muslim converts to a Christan or any other religion then such a barbaric act would not be taken against that individual.
In Sri Lanka it happens, Buddhists get converted for opportunistic reasons to Christianity. Some poor young women who get pregnant had got converted to Christianity because of the support they received. Some Sinhalese Buddhist men get converted to Islam when they want to marry another woman and the wife do not give the divorce.
Most of the time people inherit their religion from their parents. Though Buddhist does not need any baptism it is accepted they are Buddhists . A Christian or a catholic would not considered as a true believer unless baptized. Jews and Muslims circumcise men to show they belong to that faith. In some Muslim countries (in Africa even women get circumcised) It shows the level that the religion can go in to. So as human beings every body should have the right to change their faith, and we can not condemn that. |
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30 Mar 2006 03:25:26 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gaja Lakshmi,
Since you can not remember what you have written about the dung business and holy ash here I have posted the relevant abstracts.
Gaja-----Magha, make up your mind - Does Gaja mean elephant or elephant dung to you? - so I can adjust my language with you.
Magha----Gaja Lakshmi,
There is a difference between bearing the name ?Elephant? and the Elephant the animal with it's own majesty. The only resemblance I could make as I said before, what you write and the elephant is, the bulk of the waste product of the Elephant.
Gaja-----Magha,
You became God's instrument in identifying me with the elephant. In Tamil they say that the elephant is worth a thousand pieces of gold - dead or alive. Also, in Hinduism, the dung of sacred animals is burnt and the ash used as Holy Ash - to denote wisdom. Likewise even my waste which one day you will wear as Holy Ash of wisdom on your Sinhalese forehead.
Magha---,Finally since I am not an animal worshipper I do not find any thing scared about Elephant excrement too. I have a friend who did research on elephant dung to analyze their eating habits, microbes in their guts and etc but he too is a scientist who does not worship Elephants, cows, rats and other creatures so you may have to use them for your own self or give it to Tamil Diaspora in Australia.
Gaja---Tamils already know the value of Holy Ash from sacred animals. The elephant is worshipped my thousands of Sinhalese - including at Kathragama. So you stand alienated by these simple but powerful Sinhalese. I am informed that Professor Kumarvadivel - Professor Hoole's competitor for the position of VC - prays to Ganesh - Divine Elephant. May be this is how his prayers are getting answered.
Magha---Further more I do not want to speculate who uses ashes of excrement of animals to rub on their foreheads for religious believes of Jaffna university, which is their personal belief .However I do not think that Jaffna university had fallen in to such a low level of teaching their students to rub ashes of animal dung on their foreheads to achieve more power. If such a philosophy is promulgated at Jaffna university it will certainly loose it's credibility in the world as an institute of higher education. If it is the case then we need people of Prof. Hoole caliber to restore it?s image certainly. |
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Absurdity of some of the religions can be measured by this article.
Man Accidentally Divorces Wife in Sleep
By Associated Press
TUE MAR 28, 1:06 PMUPDATED 19 HOURS 54 MINUTES AGO
NEW DELHI - Village elders ordered a Muslim man in eastern India to leave his wife after he accidentally divorced her in his sleep, a news report said Tuesday.
Aftab Ansari uttered the Urdu word for divorce, 'talaq,' three times in his sleep, prompting his worried wife to discuss the matter with her friends, according to the Press Trust of India news agency.
Under Islamic law, a husband need only say 'I divorce you' three times to secure a permanent end to his marriage.
Muslim leaders in the couple's village in West Bengal state found out and decreed that Ansari's unconscious utterances constituted a divorce, PTI reported.
But 30-year-old Ansari said he had no intention of leaving his wife of 11 years.
'I have not given talaq. When I uttered talaq three times I had taken medicines to help me sleep,' he was quoted as saying in the report.
The religious leaders said that before remarrying, the couple would have to be apart for at least 100 days and that the wife, Sohela, would also have to spend a night with another man and then be divorced by him.
PTI reported that the couple has been ostracized because of their refusal to abide by the decision of the village leaders. |
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30 Mar 2006 03:49:57 GMT Report for Abuse
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MAGHA:
(Quote) 'There was a bridge between Singhalese and Tamils in the modern history of Sri Lanka through Christianity and Catholicism which is now broken' (End Q).
Was not there a bridge before the arrival of Christianity?
My understanding is that we had a good solid bridge, and it was these Europeans Christians who destroyed it to replace that with a bridge of their own with one way traffic.
Ordinary Sinhala Buddhists are aware of this to some extent, and true Tamil Hindus are yet to realise that. As such, Sinhalas quietly left Hindu Priests out of the equation while bashing Rayappu Josephs.
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30 Mar 2006 04:34:22 GMT Report for Abuse
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Mucha,
Partly it is true. As Neelan Thiruchelvam said a 'convivencia' and understanding some where in the 12th and 13th centuries after hundreds of years of war with each other but decided to keep a distance between. But I do not say it was a solid bridge. In the 20th century especially after 1956 the only connection between the two ethnic groups were in fact with those who met on Sundays at the church. We had segregated education , communities had to live separately, language wise a barrier was created with hatred. There was nothing that a Sinhalese Buddhist shared with the Tamil. However the Sinhalese Christian/catholic could share the religious faith with the Tamil who came to the same church. The separation of the two communities is such that there was hardly any Tamil a Buddhist priest, not to mention there was any Sinhalese Buddhist priest who could give a sermon in Tamil.
Having said that I did not mean that the European colonialism and the Christianity and Catholicism which it introduced to this country was a blessing. Since there is no point now blaming the historical misfortunes and finding no solution doing that what we need to emphasize is some positive outcome applicable to modern day and go forward from there. |
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30 Mar 2006 04:41:50 GMT Report for Abuse
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Thank you Magha for your response.
This is what YOU wrote on 25 March 2006:
'Ha, Ha,
Gaja Lakshmi,
You still don't get it, it is part of the ailment and natural.
You tried to correct the 'Malani Rasanayagam factor, but silent about the other two.
One thing is sure Gaja means elephant and what you write is as big as elephant dung.'
I hope you have enough intelligence to work out who insulted whom - and to whom animals are sacred. If you need to be spoon-fed on that too - let me know
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gaja
PS: Magha, what seems like mistake to you is likely to be an opportunity for me - because I am a genuine worker and the whole world is my stage.
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30 Mar 2006 05:13:21 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gaja Lakshmi,
Have I ever in this forum addressed you by 'Gaja'?
NO. I always, and the only member in this forum who addresses you as 'Gaja Lakshmi'. Because I am addressing you as I identified , a woman and not an elephant. So from the very first time, I added your other name to make it sound better . 'Aliya' the Elephant in Singhalese as you know is not a proper name to address some body. To Singhalese 'Gaja' is not a name or a noun but an adjective. For instance 'Gaja Muthu', is 'Pearls' what they believe that certain tuskers have in their tusks.
So when I said Gaja means Elephant it denotes that the word Gaja means Elephant but not you.
If I said, Gaja Laksmi is Elephant then it will be you, unfortunately it was not the case.
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30 Mar 2006 05:27:35 GMT Report for Abuse
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Gaja Laksmi,
Besides when I said ?One thing is sure Gaja means elephant and what you write is as big as elephant dung? one does not need to be a Rocket scientist to fathom out that it does not imply you being considered equal to an Elephant or what your write is similar with the consistency of the Elephant dung, but I am comparing the volume, the size the bulk of the excrement of the animal to the volume of your writing. |
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