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Kulakottan Senior Member
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21 Jul 2006 09:12:24 GMT Report for Abuse
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Hi captain cool,
It is our pleasure to be of some use to the Ashram community.
Here is another one:
Did you know that MGR who was the former Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu was also a Malayaalee and was born in Kandy when his family was living in Sri Lanka???
Kula Edited By - Kulakottan - 21 Jul 2006 09:19:33 GMT |
Kulakottan Senior Member
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21 Jul 2006 09:24:53 GMT Report for Abuse
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Aganthukaya,
Yes, I am a Tamil from Jaffna and lived for a long time in Colombo.
Do you know anything about Sinhala/Buddhist culture/language/history etc?
I would not say that I know a lot about all these but being a Sri Lankan I do try to learn more about them.
We say in Tamil,
'Katrathu Kai man alavu
kallAthathu ulahalavu'
i.e. What we have learned is handful and what we havn't is worldful.
That explains how much I know.
Kula Edited By - Kulakottan - 21 Jul 2006 09:40:54 GMT |
LuLa Senior Member
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21 Jul 2006 09:44:33 GMT Report for Abuse
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Aganthukaya,
When I started to talk with Bonggo in Malayalam, I did not know that it will turn into something educational.
Let me add a little more to all what you have written.
Not only the Flora and Fauna but the cultural connection between Sri Lanka and 'god's own country', ' Kerala ' was once vibrant. There used to be extensive commerce through the ports of Cochin, Calicut and Kozhikode, which also enabled regular flows of migrants to the island.
Over the course of the centuries, the people from Chera/Kerala who migrated to Sri Lanka have become part of the Sinhala community, adopting local names and Buddhist practices. Given the multiple shared features of the two communities, many have felt it easier to merge with the dominant local groups, rather than to try to maintain separations. In areas such as Lunuwila, Wennappuwa and Marawila, there are many descendants of Keralan migrants who today feel culturally and socially closer to the Sinhala people than they do to the Sri Lankan Tamils.
Religious practices such as the Pattini deity worship (as well as the worship of Natha, Vishnu, Kataragama, Saman and Vibhishana) were also introduced to Sri Lanka from Kerala. Sinhala classical poems such as the 'Perakumba Sinha' and 'Kokila Sandesaya' also bear the Keralan stamp.
The Alakeshwara family, for instance, belonged to a Kerala dynasty that grew very close to the royalty of the 14th century Gampola kingdom.
Many families modified their Kerela names into Sinhala, for example the Marappan family became Marapana (Tilak Marapana). There were also many Muslim families, for example the Markar family (Bakeer Markar, Markan Marker and so on) are all from Kerela. Markar is a common name in Kochin / Ernakulam area in Kerala. Even the name 'Maraikkar' is actually a malyalee name.
It is also believed that the Sinhalese from the castes Karawa (fisherman), Durawa (toddy tapper) and Salagama (cinnamon peeler) were decendents from Kerela who got naturalized (Sinhalized) during the course of time.
As Fairplay said, the Sinhalese women loved to have Malayalis as their husbands, during the early 20th centuary, some well known Sinhalese women eloped with the Malayali men, one such example was the wife of the famous Trade unionist A.E. Gunasinghe.
Ayurveda medicine was brought to Sri Lanka from Kerela, even today the Ayurvedic doctors in Sri Lanka used to go to Kerela for further higher studies.
It is believed that some Buddhist monks who learned the art of Varma Kalai (a kind of Martial art) from Kerela took it to the far East from which Karate and Kung fu developed.
The most famous katakali dance from Kerela is recently introduced to Sri Lanka.
When the Sinhala actress Anoja Weerasinghe was invited to act in a Malayalam movie, what she said was, 'I cannot see any difference between them and us.'
I think, some historians should start doing more research in our Kerela connection. Edited By - LuLa - 21 Jul 2006 09:55:32 GMT |
Kulakottan Senior Member
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21 Jul 2006 09:56:02 GMT Report for Abuse
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Lula,
Just to add to what you said, it was the Cochin Markar who traded in cinnamon with Sri Lanka and sold them to the Portuguese in Cochin and Calicut (Kozhikode).
They are the ones who took the 'Parangiya to Kotte' when the Portughese wanted to meet the King of Kotte and you know how.
Kula Edited By - Kulakottan - 21 Jul 2006 10:18:55 GMT |
mRNOTRacist
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21 Jul 2006 10:22:08 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear Kula
Having never had the chance to go to Jaffna or any part of the north what is it like in terms of geography - people etc etc. Would people from the south notice many differences there? Where i live in England there is always a massive debate about the north/south divide here in england. Thanks |
Kamani Senior Member
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21 Jul 2006 10:23:02 GMT Report for Abuse
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Here's another to enjoy :)
A new lady teacher came to teach 8th standard students. As it was the first day,
She gave her intro, and asked all the students to introduce themselves with name and hobby.
She said, ' Let's start with the boys first .'
Boys start giving their intro...
First boy: ' My name is John, and my hobby is to see bubble in the bathtub.'
Teacher was confused to listen but said, ' Interesting. Well, Ok. In fact we must be honest in telling the hobby. And after all there is
Essentially a child in each of us. So it's ok John. Yes next.'
Second boy: ' Myself Peter and my hobby is to see bubble in the bathtub.'
Teacher now got surprised and said, ' Good. I like the spirit of supporting a friend. Ok next.'
Third boy: ' I'm Smith and my hobby is to see bubble in the bathtub.'
Teacher: ' Guys are you joking or what? Please be sincere. Ok next.'
This continues, and the last boy stands up ' I'm Harry and my hobby is to see bubble in the bathtub .'
Exhausted, the teacher said, ' I don't think I will be able to teach un-grown boys for long. Anyway, now the girls please.'
First girl: ' I'm Julie and my hobby is to see birds.'
Teacher: ' Good. At last I got something different. Ok next.'
Second girl: ' I'm Ruby and I like to collect perfumes.'
Teacher ' Now it's like educated grown up girls. Ok next. You sweet girl , Yes you...' the Most beautiful girl of the class :
' Mam, my name is Bubble, and my hobby is to take a looooong bath in the bathtub.' |
Kulakottan Senior Member
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21 Jul 2006 10:41:54 GMT Report for Abuse
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Dear mRNOTRacist
Having never had the chance to go to Jaffna or any part of the north what is it like in terms of geography - people etc etc. Would people from the south notice many differences there? Where i live in England there is always a massive debate about the north/south divide here in england. Thanks
I will try my best to give you some unbiased information. I may simplify some of the issues to be short but it is much more complicated. What I say is my perspective. Some of my friends in this forum might disagree. But that is the reality.
Prior to 1983, many families from the South visited the families of their tamil friends from Jaffna. Most of them carried very pleasant memories and did not find anything different in terms of the Sri Lankaness.
It was a very conservative, hospitable and traditional society. Education was the backbone of Jaffna society and the standard of education there reflected the importance given to education in our society. In many ways the geography is similar to down south being a dry zone. The farmers have to work very hard to get something out of that soil. As a result the Jaffna society developed a habit of working very hard. Being a minority and had to fight for its survival, we also became a society being called selfish. The family would do everything possible to get their son to become a doctor or en engineer. That was the principal way of guaranteeing a job. It was also important because that enabled him to get a dowry and help his sisters to settle in their life.
But all that have now changed as a result of a series of events starting from the language issue and University admissions. Today, I wonder whether whatever I have said is true; a lot have changed and the younger ones are much more rebellious. But as human beings we do not hate the Sinhalese. Majority would love to continue to live peacefully within a United Sri Lanka with dignity not as second class citizens.
We are no different to you.
Kula Edited By - Kulakottan - 21 Jul 2006 10:58:09 GMT |
petijo1 Senior Member
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21 Jul 2006 10:48:08 GMT Report for Abuse
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MRNOTRacist!
a nice name!
I think you are not Sri lankan. |
LuLa Senior Member
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21 Jul 2006 10:58:47 GMT Report for Abuse
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Kula,
It makes me laugh when I think how ignorant our people are. There were a few Markar boys studying in my school (in the Sinhala stream).
I still remember, they used to boast about their Arab/Sinhala connection. Even though they knew Tamil, they never spoke in public. They pretended as if they were Sinhala Muslims.
If I knew their Malayali connection at that time and how their forefathers took the Parangiya to Kotte, I would have hacked them left and right. Edited By - LuLa - 21 Jul 2006 15:15:24 GMT |
Kulakottan Senior Member
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21 Jul 2006 10:59:55 GMT Report for Abuse
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Petijo,
Divide the name into three parts and read.
There is a strong message behind the name.
He/she sounds very much of a Sri Lankan origin.
Uncle Kula |
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